RobNC

Please help those people see the light.. At the very least the marketing person should be flogged repeatedly by all office staff until they can recognize the difference between a Garrett detector and an FTP device.

I look forward to the day a F75 ltd can be had for $250 NEW. LOL The marketing ads look weird. Especially that last one. They seemingly dug up what? Looked like some kids pendant from a grocery store 50 cent turn vendor. Some find that was. Maybe there are tapping into some Lithium-rich water and consuming too much of it? Nonetheless, Fisher has made some good machines in the past but sure seems they are content to be the "vintage" maker these days. I'm confused about what altered state of reality they are living in. Putting out new weirdo ads on very old hardware? That just looks stupid.

I don't know about anyone else, but when I went to 1.14 b2 there was a significant DROP in my maximum wireless headphone volume level vs what it was before. Even trying different wireless headphones still equaled somewhere around a 50% reduction in maximum volume through the wireless audio. I'm going to flash back down to a lower version and see if that corrects it. Also not sure why they would send out that message about removing the 1.14 beta 2 and going back down to 1.13 Has that always been something they told owners to do after a beta period was over? Just odd. UPDATE- I re-flashed to 1.13 and my wireless volume returned to what it should be. Very strange. Will miss the DT feature but maybe some things are better off being missed if it caused my machine another problem. Nokta, I'm watching you 👁️

Minelab just keeps on killing it- yes all the incentives for buying their products. If they keep at it like this being sneaky and cheap along with putting something so important as the battery on a mere 6 month warranty they are really mashing their own crotch. It's becoming more clear they only want to sell their stuff and once that is done they are done with you. It always starts with small things. I get it that batteries are not always reliable, but 6 months? Come on man, the least you can do is 12 months on the battery. Wish I had known the XTerra Pro worked only with those extra expensive special Minelab headphones that adds another $100 tot he final purchase (I won't pay that). Now I learn the battery has a mere 6 month warranty too? Yeah that great deal isn't looking so great now.

That is a real 💩 sandwich. Defective coil and they make the customer pay. That isn't customer service. That's just slack. As big a company that Minelab is and with all their money they could have sent you a call tag/shipping label. I'm sure they would not have been on the hook for $9.99 it would have been much less since they do volume. I also am not impressed with the "can't find your registration" game either. Obvious stall tactic. I always felt like when Jamie left Minelab it would be poop. Sure sounds to be the case. She was the best.

Hmm. Anything is possible in these times. I believe the major problem with Minelab is they have always been on a high horse and have the mentality they are the best and accordingly feel free to charge crazy prices. With the way things have went up in cost the last year or so that really puts the brakes on a lot of people spending extra. Meanwhile, Minelab has kept on raising prices but yet we see now a significant price reduction on their newest detector the Manticore. That was unexpected. No doubt Minelab has proven itself time and time again over the years setting standards others couldn't achieve. But while they were doing it they were also creating some adversaries. Their arrogance precedes them. And that arrogance is not pretty. It appears Minelab enjoys trying to sue people anytime they get too close in competition. A cowardly tactic. Would I want to see Minelab go completely away? No. But I would like for them to stop being so greedy. Their arrogance level and greed approaches and surpasses that of White's at their peak. But we know how that ended, huh? Minelab has had a good run, they've lined their pockets with gold at the expense of consumers. The Equinox 700/900 and manticore ushered in a new line, one that doesn't make use of the Equinox 600/800's headphones and other accessories. This of course is another money grab/proprietary garbage tactic they have used many times over the years and its getting old. There is no reason why the headphones from the EQ600/800 can't work in full AptX LL mode UNLESS Minelab specifically CHOSE to not allow it and went a step further by only whitelisting their headphones. I learned this when I bought the Xterra Pro recently. Had I known that beforehand I would not have bought it. Stuff like that has me done with Minelab. I like my EQ800 but no more Minelab for me. I wish them well, but tend to agree with you, their gig is about up.

Hell, who wouldn't be happy??!! The best of both worlds. The Legend for rough and tumble stuff down in the muck to dig everything when you were bored, and the Versa for cherry picking places first. Seems like a winning combo. Can you tell me if that Rutus Versa is actually better than the Legend by a large margin or is it just my infatuation with the Versa at the moment that is blinding me. I don't have the Versa but lust for it badly. I do have the Legend, The Equinox 800, and the XTerra Pro. The 3 Stooges.

Hey Sir.. You're just making it worse on me with this Rutus Versa lust condition I've developed. That thing is awesome! Only negatives are price, availability, and a small-ish screen. If the videos can be trusted on its seemingly supernatural ability to separate, it's a real gem of a detector. That right there is what I've always looked for and never found. Sadly, like most things it may look good but you never know until it is in your hands. Will you mesh with it, understand it, like the feel, the sound, etc. So many things come into play. Youtube can sometimes be a terrible influence. I remember a long time ago I got my hands on a new Minelab Explorer S. I never found a single coin with that thing. It just didn't make any sense to me how it worked, and all the flute music really threw my mind for a flip. It was a somewhat heavy detector too but I was younger then and could swing it with no problem. Due to its cost I really didn't want to use it for fear of tearing it up. So it was sold (at a loss). Looking back today on that situation it's clear I was a moron back then who had no patience and a bad case of being unrealistic to think it would magically find things because it costed more. Much younger, stronger, had hair on my head, and stubborn but still a moron nonetheless. I don't want to repeat that lesson again, so I haven't launched out to buy a Rutus Versa no matter how much it costs or what I must sacrifice to get it. My mediocre sites don't warrant such money to be spent at this point in time. If things align right, and I get an inflow of cash (very unlikely)I would gladly obtain one. But for now it is a detector that looks appealing and something to drool over.

You naughty, Naughty Man! Your brute strength has offended the Nokta people.. LOL

Yeah forget that Fakebook crowd and the other "social media" platforms like TikTom, TweeterX, Insta-grass, WeChoke, TeleGoon, and Snapchump. Half of what is wrong with the younger folks today is basing their entire lives off that poison. The other half is pure laziness.

Well, it sure seems they are serious about going up against Minelab. It's hard to deny the fact they are being competitive with the pricing. For the price they have on the FindX($139), it is very appealing to new people just thinking about detecting. And the FindX Pro model for $179 adds waterproofing on the entire unit. They are including a stainless digger, wired headphones, AND a carrying bag.. Man that is insane. How are they even doing this? Spec-wise it isn't a bad machine at all. It lacks advanced feature manipulation but does include automatic and manual ground balance. A very simple turn on and go machine. 15khz frequency. Wonder how it will do? The only odd/weird thing I see is charging on the regular FindX. Someone would have to unscrew and remove the search coil to charge. That may be a problem or failure point over time. The FindX Pro is like the Legend for charging, meaning there is a separate port integrated for headphones also.

That was quite the test. Maybe currents have something to do with increasing leakage possibility? Ya know ocean salt water plus washing waves/current pulling and pushing. I believe your Equinox is considered well done at this point with that slow cooking you did on it. LOL

From what I've viewed on the Versa, it is one heck of a detector. It seems to offer excellent performance. The problem though? it would cost an arm and a leg to get one over here across the pond. I really wish they would make it more readily available in the USA. They would sell a lot of them. It is a VERY interesting piece of equipment. For what it is worth, my hard line in the sand on detector cost is $900 US Dollars. For that amount of money it best do everything except dig the target. Yep, I know that is unrealistic but just how I am.

"seems a lot of messing around". Agreed. But the Nokta Pirate Dude was seemingly enjoying it. *shrugs* LOL "I read a lot of people saying the Legend is a bit of an 8" max detector and many comment on it's not very deep compared to others" Well, depends on what the target is I guess. I've already found a coin down in excess of 8 inches. However it was in wood chip tot lot, not dirt and it was very wet in the bottom. Realistically though 8" would be deeper than I want to dig in this red clay rock soil. If it will do that consistently. Phrunt I am totally in agreement with you on the Deep Target feature. I also think they should have renamed it to something more fitting like "Target ID boost" instead. It makes more sense. Heck this should have been in there a few versions back as an option. In my humble and odd opinion I believe Nokta realizes the Legend is falling behind a little bit versus more expensive detectors like the Manticore and Deus 2. But hey, that is OK. How can anyone that is reasonable expect a lower $$$ detector to operate like a $$$$ detector? I sure don't expect that. But I do expect it to be stable and would love to see the Target ID's tightened up even more. Refinement, not more power. More power isn't worth a poop if you can't use it due to instability and distracting chatter/false signals. Clean up the processing of signals, refine it. It will be even more of a formidable detector against others. Power alone is worthless, but separation and better processing/discrimination would be in my book GOLDEN. Look at the Minelab Xterra Pro. It's a freaking beast power wise from what I've seen. But it is so crude in processing the signal the detector is crippled. The Target ID should have been a screen showing ?? instead of numbers. I don't hate it, but it is certainly a beep/dig detector. If you want to dig every signal that is the detector to get.

Totally agree with you on that. The Deep Target ID feature is perhaps the most useful thing from 1.14 That Beast mode is just not for me. I don't see any real world application of it for myself. Why in the world would I want even more instability and guesswork from a detector I'm trying to get more stable dependable operation from? It is rare if I can run sensitivity up to 22 around here. The Black Beard pirate in the Nokta video had the thing cranked to 30. Just not realistic use for me.