Dead Tenements, Are They Important And Why? For Western Australia

[Ethan in Adelaide]

On 2/28/2024 at 7:02 PM, kingswood said:

Just from my own experience, Dead tenements dont really mean much to me at all...simply as the majority of the gold areas will have dead tenements dating back to the old 1890 GML's.....

Old workings in a line, super exciting.....

, great!

Dead leases in random unexpected places, kinda interesting and worth looking at.

Tony is 100% correct in saying to detect the edges of the contact zones though. The majority of WA gold is close to fractures/faults and contact zones.

Hi Kingswood,

 

Just a few questions hope you don't mind answering them:

Old workings in a line, super exciting.....(you mean mines in a line like a strike？）

Dead SPL's (I only saw P or PA in tengraph when use dead tenement section, never seen any SPL?)

Dead leases in random unexpected places（what kind of leases are they?)

detect the edges of the contact zones (what is contact zones?)

Thanks,

Ethan

 

 

[Ethan in Adelaide]

On 2/28/2024 at 8:32 AM, Aureous said:

@Ethan in Adelaide , the point being, if a 'dead tenement' has mines or not, there will be a paper trail outlining the work done previous. Smaller tenements will pinpoint the likelihood of alluvial gold being present ....like someone found a patch and decided to peg it to work with machinery.

I have seen small patch in pending for P. very small. I wonder if it still has gold for now as the people who applied for it should have done the surface very well otherwise others would do it.

 

you mentioned paper trail. you mean tenement reports online? any links?

 

Thanks

[Aureous]

4 hours ago, Ethan in Adelaide said:

I have seen small patch in pending for P. very small. I wonder if it still has gold for now as the people who applied for it should have done the surface very well otherwise others would do it.

 

you mentioned paper trail. you mean tenement reports online? any links?

As I said previous, nobody gets it all.....some ppl are very pro, some are sloppy. Take a look at Joe Legendre's Youtube videos, his recent few are very instructional on this very topic: Prospecting 101

[kingswood]

5 hours ago, Ethan in Adelaide said:

Hi Kingswood,

 

Just a few questions hope you don't mind answering them:

Old workings in a line, super exciting.....(you mean mines in a line like a strike？）

Dead SPL's (I only saw P or PA in tengraph when use dead tenement section, never seen any SPL?)

Dead leases in random unexpected places（what kind of leases are they?)

detect the edges of the contact zones (what is contact zones?)

Thanks,

Ethan

 

 

No worries.

Old workings....could be shafts or could be shallow pits. They are evidence that the old timers were onto something...panning along and digging pits or shallow workings trying to dig onto the source. Remember that these guys were loaming not detecting and usually didnt waste their time digging random pits. They mean that they found something in the pan and were spending time trying to locate the best place to drop a shaft. Multiple pits like this are a great sign for gold detecting as it often indicates that there is (or was) as source around there.

Dead SPL's are on tenegraph. They will end with an "S", so something like PXX/xxxx-s. Thats an SPL.

Any dead lease in a random spot. Could be a prospecting license or an old mining license. If you are looking at tenegraph and theres a dead P or M somewhere random on an active E or on vacant ground, its worth a drive out to have a look. Remember need a 40E to detect on a live E. It could be an indicator that something of interest was found many years ago as someone went to the trouble of pegging and applying for it.

Like in this attached example: see the old GML in the middle of nowhere? Have to ask yourself why is it there? Did someone find something? Are there old workings there that havent been surveyed?? Its always worth a look....

Contact zones are basically where different rock types have come together, for example granite and greenstones. Its important as its related to tectonic movement that forced the rocks together and possibly allowed gold bearing fluids to be forced into the zone. Where there are contact zones, there will also likely be faults, fractures and fissures. Gold in WA is where it is because of geological reasons. If the geo isnt there, the gold usually wont be either. Even when we consider secondary gold in laterite, its where it is because of the underlying well covered bedrock geology. Some of the contact zones are quite obvious at a surface level, but others are covered by many hundreds of metres of overburden. Its why geo maps and mag imaging are an important tool.

 

 

 

[kingswood]

5 hours ago, Ethan in Adelaide said:

I have seen small patch in pending for P. very small. I wonder if it still has gold for now as the people who applied for it should have done the surface very well otherwise others would do it.

 

you mentioned paper trail. you mean tenement reports online? any links?

 

Thanks

There are so many factors to consider though....did the people who did the work use their own machines or hire? if hired its expensive and they could have rushed to get the bigger gold but likely left lots of bits behind.

Was it worked with new detectors or old? Older detectors could easily have left a few ounces of small bits behind.

Did they actually work the right area? They may have found a patch but due to hire constraints or time constraints, only scraped the area where they found a patch, but missed the other gold away from the patch.

Aureous is 100% correct, no one gets it all. I have found decent nuggets and speccies next to people's old dig holes. Many people have found nuggets in other peoples chained patches. Sometimes you swing from one direction and you wont hear the gold, but coming from another angle, you do detect it.

[Ethan in Adelaide]

2 hours ago, kingswood said:

There are so many factors to consider though....did the people who did the work use their own machines or hire? if hired its expensive and they could have rushed to get the bigger gold but likely left lots of bits behind.

Was it worked with new detectors or old? Older detectors could easily have left a few ounces of small bits behind.

Did they actually work the right area? They may have found a patch but due to hire constraints or time constraints, only scraped the area where they found a patch, but missed the other gold away from the patch.

Aureous is 100% correct, no one gets it all. I have found decent nuggets and speccies next to people's old dig holes. Many people have found nuggets in other peoples chained patches. Sometimes you swing from one direction and you wont hear the gold, but coming from another angle, you do detect it.

Bro thank you and @Aureous. I am learning by asking question and listening from patient generous teachers like you guys. I have not thought about anything like dead tenemenet and contact zones before. Now it is another research course going on. Not even GML. After you mentioned I had a look oh good. lol

[kingswood]

21 hours ago, Ethan in Adelaide said:

Bro thank you and @Aureous. I am learning by asking question and listening from patient generous teachers like you guys. I have not thought about anything like dead tenemenet and contact zones before. Now it is another research course going on. Not even GML. After you mentioned I had a look oh good. lol

No worries. Everyone starts somewhere and I am thankful for all the help and advice I got when i started out 🙂

Often with old leases that I find interesting, I then flick into Geoview to see if there are any reports attached to it. Sometimes that gives you a bit of an idea of what work has been done. If it was a mining or exploration company their reports often have better maps than I could otherwise get, so I tend to save them. Their drill or surface sample results also often offer clues....often not large enough results for them to bother about, but worth a look as a prospector.

[Ethan in Adelaide]

15 hours ago, kingswood said:

No worries. Everyone starts somewhere and I am thankful for all the help and advice I got when i started out 🙂

Often with old leases that I find interesting, I then flick into Geoview to see if there are any reports attached to it. Sometimes that gives you a bit of an idea of what work has been done. If it was a mining or exploration company their reports often have better maps than I could otherwise get, so I tend to save them. Their drill or surface sample results also often offer clues....often not large enough results for them to bother about, but worth a look as a prospector.

Yes some Youtubes have mentioned drilling etc. If I can go this year I would think to go there have a look. Currently however around peak hills many pending areas also worth having a look