gollum Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 No worries Steve, I don't personally know AZBLACKBIRD. Never met the person. I haven't ever (to my knowledge) said anything that could be considered impolite or rude to him (unless maybe he posts under other names and maybe we had a go round that way, which is entirely possible). His post took me a little by surprise. That is one of the things I despise about the internet. It is far too easy to be a jerk without any consequences. Being a jerk face to face can have consequences (which is the way it should be). BD, One more thing, since I like to think of myself as being an honest person (with me, what you see is what you get), I have to admit the possibility that the pictured ore is from someplace else, and that the Pit Mine Story is just that. I'm not saying that because I made it up (or Jack San Felice). I am saying that because since I was not personally there to see anything that happened, I cannot say with 100% certainty that any of it happened (except what I have pictures of), and when you are talking about an illegal dig in the Superstition Wilderness Area, you should be careful about throwing around names and information as facts when they are hearsay and theory. Now, if you ask me what do I believe, I will say that I have known about the Pit Mine for several years. Until recently, I have always thought that is the stories were true, then they found one of several of the Peralta/Gonzalez Mines that are in the area of the Supers. A few of them have been found already. Look at the Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azblackbird Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 On 4/23/2015 at 10:03 PM, gollum said: While you may have just been joshing with BD, I detect a different situation towards me. PLEASE come to the Rendezvous this year. I would dearly love for you to insult me to my face. How do you figure I was insulting you? Everything I said about your knowledge and experience on the Supers and LDM was true... right? If not, then I apologize for making you out to be somebody you're not. No offense Mike, but I'm not going to waste my time going to some rendezvous of Dutch Hunters. I'm sure everybody is nice and everything and I'd probably have a good time, but I just don't believe in all that gobbledygook. I'm sorry, but the LDM stuff is just not my thing. I'd rather concentrate my efforts on what I know is true fact. Here's what I will do though. When you're in town for the LDM rendezvous (or anytime in the fall/winter), set aside an entire day and I will take you out to my neck of the woods (Bradshaws) and we can do some real gold prospecting. You can drive my Rhino and I'll ride my Rokon and we'll head for the hills and see what we can find. Feel free to send me a PM (either here or on TNET) when you have your plans defined and know which days you'll be in the Phx area and we'll make it happen. Sound like a deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gollum Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 On 4/24/2015 at 0:17 PM, azblackbird said: How do you figure I was insulting you? Everything I said about your knowledge and experience on the Supers and LDM was true... right? If not, then I apologize for making you out to be somebody you're not. No offense Mike, but I'm not going to waste my time going to some rendezvous of Dutch Hunters. I'm sure everybody is nice and everything and I'd probably have a good time, but I just don't believe in all that gobbledygook. I'm sorry, but the LDM stuff is just not my thing. I'd rather concentrate my efforts on what I know is true fact. Here's what I will do though. When you're in town for the LDM rendezvous (or anytime in the fall/winter), set aside an entire day and I will take you out to my neck of the woods (Bradshaws) and we can do some real gold prospecting. You can drive my Rhino and I'll ride my Rokon and we'll head for the hills and see what we can find. Feel free to send me a PM (either here or on TNET) when you have your plans defined and know which days you'll be in the Phx area and we'll make it happen. Sound like a deal? I think anybody that reads your post will see the same thing I did. If that isn't how you intended it, then that's fine. That is the way it came across. Lets just say its quashed now. I know a little about hard work: That is a hand made trail through to a friends site in the Coronado Natl Forest. Combination of Pinch/Pry Bars, hand moving boulders, and for solid rock, we rode Polaris Ranger 6x6 and carried in a 5k generator and a Bosch Jackhammer. Part of your previous post is kind of correct though. Waltz was a very experienced prospector. He started in North Carolina, then Georgia, found his way to the Mother Lode in Northern California, in 1861 we found him mining along the San Gabriel River (about 20 miles from my house) near L.A. He left there, and was one of the very first miner/prospectors in Arizona Territory with the Weaver/Peeple's Party. They were the ones that discovered the "Potato Patch" (nuggets the size of potatoes) on Rich Hill (Stanton) and after, discovered gold in The Bradshaws, where he owned three good paying claims (The Gross, Big Rebel, and General Grant Claims). He was in the Bradshaws for four years before moving to Phoenix in 1868. Your offer sounds good to me. I haven't been in the Bradshaws yet. You name a mountain range from Northern Mexico to the Mojave Desert, and I have likely been there at some point in time. In Arizona, the Supers and The Tumacacoris. The only type of prospecting I REALLY don't like is drywashing. I had a Keene Puffer, and took it out a few times, and came to the realization that dry washing wasn't for me. A lot like sanding drywall. I helped a friend rehab a house in the early 1990s. Cement Boogers for days after. HAHAHA. I don't mind a pick, but I prefer Kinepaks. :-) Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvanwho Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 There is a 61 page thread on this LDM Pit Mine and Heat dig at this forum from several years ago: http://www.thelostdutchmangoldmine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyler1127 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Watch "Adventures into the Superstition Wilderness, Pit Mine & Roger's Trough" on YouTube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mn90403 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 On 4/19/2015 at 6:46 AM, boulder dash said: I spent most of my life hiking in the superstitions and have also done much research in the Lost Dutchman. The Lost Dutchman Mine | News & Stories | arcadianews.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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