Steve Herschbach

Not upset at all - see the smiley face in the post. I apologize if I gave that impression. It was just friendly banter and an attempt at a general reminder to everyone that there are some brand and even model specific forums here.

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Yeah, you can tighten to a point, but it is a lever, and if you tighten too far then apply pressure to the lever something will give. How far is too far? When it breaks! Bummer that, I'm sorry yours broke. For me not running the shaft out to its fullest extension keeps the shaft from wobbling. An inch short of the tab indents is all it takes, but no good if you really need that last inch.

Of course that is the case, but lessons learned from the Nox still applied in Manticore development. The 700/900 are Nox updates, the Manticore intended as an E-TRAC replacement.

The battle cry issued by video critics and defenders of the one true detector around the world - “You did not have (insert fanboy model here) set up right!!”

Thank you. Same goes for all the other styrofoam and wood block videos. They really only apply in very low mineral ground, and are very misleading otherwise. You may as well test cars by jacking them up on blocks and taking the tires off. Sure, a dyno test will tell you things about the motor. But all that really matters is when the rubber hits the road, and it takes way more than a dyno test to know what car will win the race. Removing ground from the test removes the absolute most important thing you need to know about any metal detector, which is how it performs in the ground! Results in tests like these can flip 180 degrees once the target is in the ground. So believe what you want about them, but don’t believe they accurately represent actual metal detector performance in real world conditions.

Wow! 6000 must really be undermining sales of the 7000. Does not surprise me at all. Nor the SDC really. It's way overdue for a more reasonably packaged alternative. Stick an SDC in a real detector housing like I've suggested for years, and Minelab would have a ready made answer to the Axiom. They have done the easiest thing though by just dropping the SDC 2300 to undercut the Axiom by a really nice amount. I doubt this means 8000 on the way, just shelves full of 7000 not selling due to 6000. Even the SDC is feeling that - I'd never go back to an SDC after swinging a 6000. But everyone with a used GPZ 7000 or SDC 2300 to sell - ouch! Used ones are now also worth 25% less or worse. People may not know it, but the pandemic created a detector sales bubble, just like happened in other outdoor industries. Now that bubble has popped, and detector sales in general have suffered as a result in many places. There is some of that going on here, and Minelab being a publicly traded company is driven by quarterly results, which have not been good as of late. This is no doubt as much in response to that as anything else.

No, the 3500 is not the better detector. I’d not go back to the Gp 3500 ever if it was me. I’d get a GPX 5000. We are just trying to point out this is mature technology, with gains measured in fractions of inches over the years. The link I provided explains it in detail. People buy into the new machine hype too much. But newer is generally better, no doubt about it. Just don’t expect miracles.

Yeah well this is the Minelab Manticore Forum, not the Comparisons Forum, or the Nokta Forum. People here are supposed to be fan boys, and nobody will score many points coming to the club house and disparaging the fans. I do love the spin that Nokta planned a screwed up release though. If it was Minelab the Legend would have been a disaster and nobody would let them forget it. Nokta it was all planned for the good of all to jump the gun and ship unfinished product. Uh huh, sure. Who is the fan boy now? Oh wait, that was me, first Nokta Fan Boy, swinging one before most people ever heard of them. I have to admit their ability to communicate with customers leaves Minelab in shame by comparison. Manticore will not be remotely as bad as the Legend release though, not even close. It is a follow up second generation detector that builds on the errors made with Equinox. So that part is largely over with Equinox, and like Simon I doubt there will be more than one, or at most a couple updates to the Manticore. The reality is Minelab has been driving the cutting edge of the technology now for decades, and people lining up to buy their latest product is based on good sense proven by past history, not blind fan boy loyalty. In the gold prospecting world it’s largely been a case of buy Minelab or be left behind now for going on 30 years.

I did not say the GPX 5000 is not as powerful as a GP 3500. I said it really is no better on larger more solid items. It is better on small gold and at handling certain hot rocks if that’s what you need. https://www.detectorprospector.com/magazine/steves-guides/steves-guide-differences-between-minelab-sd-gp-gpx-models/

I was joking about it sensing sweep speed and telling you to Slow The F Down, but seems that was not far from what it is doing after all. AI is an overused buzzword or acronym these days. "If this do that" is not AI and has been with us for a long time now. Don't confuse simple logic algorithms or circuits with artificial intelligence.

Yup, good old GP 3500 in 2005, and really nothing is much if any better for depth on coin and ring type targets since then. It's been 18 years, and all we have done is see improvements from Minelab on hitting smaller gold or dispersed gold, but PI depth on larger targets like coins and rings has been relatively unchanged for a couple decades now. People were skeptical back in 2005 when I was suggesting using high power Pi detectors for Civil War relic hunting. Now it's the norm in some locations.

Yeah, right, nobody is going to buy early. Really? I’m not being critical if people choose to be early adopters. I’m normally an early adopter myself. That does not make the advice any less valid for the average person. People who want relatively bug free product should wait. Those who want to be on the cutting edge - great. But anyone doing so should not be all shocked and and surprised when bugs do appear in early product.

Lots of interesting stuff here. Auto ID stability?

Mike, I worked with Minelab on the 5000, 6000, and 7000. The later models were specifically designed by Minelab to detect gold a 5000 can't even see. That's just a fact. It's not tuning error but electronics and timings. You don't know what you are missing because your detector can't see it. This is however the Garrett Forum, not the Minelab Forum. If somebody likes the GPX 5000 and earlier models, Axiom will be a very familiar detecting experience, in a more modern package.

Could be for a tracking or mapping app. Or to gauge how fast you are swinging so a message can pop up and say “Slow The F Down!!”

The really simplistic answer is Manticore targeted the $1599 E-Trac as a replacement and as such is aimed at FBS type detecting i.e. surf and turf. It should excel in particular as a U.S. deep turf / park detector. A big selling point on the Manticore is boosted transmit power (TX). I see the new Quest V80 and V60 are going a step farther with adjustable TX output, something I have not had on a detector since my V3i.

It's an original SD 2000 coil. Lot of massive nuggets found with that crude old bugger.

I wonder how the Gold Mode will do with the 9"x5" coil? I'm betting the "Special Gold Theme" is referring to VCO audio. Nice thing is the Gold Mode is included in the base V60 model, whereas Minelab withheld it from the Equinox 600. Separate control for transmit (TX) power - nice! Don't think any of my detectors since the V3i has had that.

U.S. pricing V80 at $699 ($799 with two coils) and V60 at $599. For reference the Minelab Equinox 600 is $699 and Nokta Legend is $499.

It’s time. Check it out at https://www.detectorprospector.com/forums/forum/65-quest-metal-detectors/ All existing threads of consequence have been moved to the new location. New Quest V80 Multifrequency metal detector

It’s time. Check it out at https://www.detectorprospector.com/forums/forum/65-quest-metal-detectors/ All existing threads of consequence have been moved to the new location. New Quest V80 Multifrequency metal detector

They got off to a rough start as Deteknix, but Quest has moved on and continues to make impressive detectors at very affordable prices. Their upcoming introduction of a new multifrequency model convinced me it was time for a forum dedicated to the brand. I’ve always been for more power at lower prices, and Quest is doing that very well. Now if they would just make a PI detector! New Quest V80 Multifrequency metal detector

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All that matters is frequencies received and how they are processed. Anything else is marketing garbage. That said, Quest has actually been making very solid performing detectors at very good prices for some time now. These will be well worth a look. The big thing is the clock! But seriously, just more confirmation that multi really is taking over. People gave Minelab a ton of grief over the SF is obsolete thing, but they were more right than wrong about that. Any single frequency now is just rehashing stuff already done dozens of times over. All the real engineering dollars from here on out will be going to improved multi/hybrid detectors. It may be about time for a dedicated Quest Forum. They just like Nokta are passing Fisher up and leaving them for dead. Edit - OK, done, welcome to the new Quest Metal Detector Forum!