fishersari

yea man.. just dig it up. My dilemma with the 'sharper more zing' tones are .. what if (lets say) the gold ring is beneath/under debries of iron? what if the gold ring is next (same or in different depth) to another non ferrous that emulates the oblong sounding..

Sorry to hear that man... May I know what is the problem for you with the manticore? if you willing to share of course.. If you already made up your mind.. just sell the manticore ASAP man.. cut the lost ... use a machine that you happy with.. at the end of the day its all about happiness and enjoying oneself

You are right man.. my thinking is, there should be good targets that ID 98-99 too. Maybe I should just ignore or notch it out as you said and move on..

yea man.. the pull tab range varies a lot too.. its like itchy butt crack.. shouldn't scratch it.. but.. yes I did.. the stabilizer didn't help with deep faint target.. it turns the whisper tones to mixed irony tones even stabilizer at 2.. If I chase deep target I will set the manticore wide open.. for now its the recovery of 4, sensitivity 24 (with sensitivity boost function on the softkey shortcut). upper 6-7 with lower 3, no stabilizer no discriminations . The problem with changing modes is the need to reground balance (especially when chasing deep target) and its quite a hassle to find clean spot 😄 . For carpet of iron patch. I think I'm better off using AT Low Conductor than stabilizer

Its been 6 months as weekend detectorist.. Dug every signal of ID 98-99.. positive tones all directions with minor hint of iron.. usually the target was deep big iron around 12 to 15 inches. Not a single good target dug.. I wonder if anyone has dug a good deep target with the ID of 98-99. Btw I'm using the AT High conductor, AT Low conductor identified it as iron.. but I'm not so sure that AT low conductor max depth is identical as AT High conductor for inland relic site.. I'm ready (sort of) pass up targets that read 98-99

cant wait for the m8.. have enough manticore gold to buy the coil.. hopefully it will under usd250 🙄

of course man.. rang up 31 to 33.. its not even deep.. double beep.. usually I ignore the double beep with IDs of pull tab range.. but the zing sound much more clearer, sharper.. i don't know if its just my imaginations.. anyway for me.. if I got lots of lots of pull-tab and getting tired of pulltab I will just discriminate it by eyes (by looking at the ID) or sound. I didn't use the machine discriminations pattern.. its messed up with the overall tones ..

Single freq? I still in the learning curve of multi freq stuff 😁 same here too.. now i can run the manticore smooth like butter on the beach and very satisfied with it.. but on relic side its another story.. still learning tho...

I do believe when using the sensitivity of 26 to 29, the 'purity' of the signal is gone.. not gone.. how to say... the nuances is distorted? and add it up with ground signal/iron signal amplifications? I guess to use the very high sensitivity on the manticore, one should master/familiar with the sound/nuances with just enough sensitivity...

The only thing I use from the new update is sensitivity boost. Usually I ran mine in 25 to 27 sensitivity due to deep targets/ Here in my locations our definition of deep target is the target were deeper than pinpointer length. Sensitivity below 20 (if i remember correctly) the target disappear completely. With sensitivity boost, its become much easier to interrogate signals, especially the whisper one. I wish minelab can include the setting of recovery speed in the 'sensitivity boost' functions. I mean when I press the sensitivity boost its jump up to +5 sensitivity and also a recovery speed of my choosing for target interrogations.

How deep?, my deepest so far and its just an aluminum piping thingy 😁

around 10-12ish inches I guess .. but for sure its deeper than pinpointer length. BTW the coins read around 50 on air test

the 2 coins I dug were -12 to -15.. or 12 to 15 with red line.. the tones were just iron grunt.. I used all tones all metal with rich profiles (because for me I can differentiate the good target to a unwanted target at different depth to some degree) ... I do believe there is data set/ pattern that we can use from the manticore negative number (-1 to -99) but I think for now I concentrate on how the red line works. I still in the state of 'prolonged suffering' though, but sometimes I get the 'admirations state' and all the suffering is worth it... lol

Happen to me a lot too.. maybe its like @GB_Amateur explained.. the '60's was the co component and the red line maybe for the fe component indicator with no numerical display (including nearby iron or possibly ground imbalance) .. that's maybe why there is no iron signal after target retrieved.. I don't know lol I'm guessing

oh the fe-co value? got it

Oh man.. if you are right then i need to relearn the ferrous stuff again on manticore. When we swing over a nail or iron (on air test) what's the numbers mean though? I agree but I think there are too many patterns on the 2d screen depending on what other 'junk' and/or different depth with the desired target. I tried to take mental note of 4 traces of 0, 90, 180 and 270 off a target that I think its iffy and worth to investigate. Then I thought for this to work I have to start with 0 degree parallel with true north every time lol.. so I ditched the plan. Its faster just to dig it out but I notice some 'behavior' pattern on the 2d screen like if the desired target close to ferrous, very deep iron.. its just i dont trust the 2d screen yet... Do you think if some one fully master the 2d trace, he/she can run the manticore with 0-0 ferrous limit and just discriminate using the trace? lol

After a few outing of getting familiar with the mantebellum, I went to a spot that I have detect for several times with the 800. The name of the hunt on this particular spot is depth... Its the same spot as in my post of I retrieved few more coins from this spot but 2 of them were in stable negative numbers with 180 degree rotations.. usually deep irons the negative numbers read is all over the place and cant pinpoint on the same location but these 2 signal are solid. Just wondering if others experienced the same thing.. or more accurately I'm looking for any data/finding/info or pattern that we can use from the iron number (-1 to -99)

Hi man, since you one of the few guys that can run the mandimore full throttle, would love to know (if you have the time of course) if you can test out what is the lowest sensitivity on deepest target detected (planted target) by the sensitivity of 30 on your ground and what's your opinion on mandigore sensitivity architecture/structure? ( I don't know the right word to ask.. lol) as i observed its different than equinox sensitivity.. the mandible sensitivity were like pre-amp gain I think if that makes sense

Its like a faint electronics humming sound with different pitch when changing the mode.. I checked it when you brought it up.. but the control box really need to be close to the ear to hear it.. I think it has something to do with frequencies change when in different mode I guess...

Mine on 2 by the way.. max sensitivity prone to falsing even when I touch the tip to the ground to balance it out

yes its included wit the coil

No problem here for me.. my problem with the trx are its not waterproof anymore and I need a new case lol Hopefully it will keep working forever... ,I have 2 profind 35 ( got 1 for free with the manticore) and I don't use em that much..

I need to know moreeee about your finding 😘 ... will be waiting for your thorough mandigore review

That's not fair for dealers that has taken the pre order list..

I'm assuming the iron was planted maybe for some sort of test bed when he wrote " Well we now know deep iron 13'' ..