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I don't have 99 tone on the Multi Kruzer but found the 3 tone has incredible recovery speed and able to sound iron signal in mixed target consistently. One of the big reasons I bought the Kruzer was the layout of the display and how easy it is to navigate. I don't even have to look at the screen to toggle through the modes. My only dislike is 2 tone should have a lower gain and lower sensitivity so it worked more like 3 tone which is very well balanced for the machine. Deep mode is nearly identical to 2 tone but with more audio boosting making it harder to judge a targets depth by ear. For those that want to beach hunt use either Gen or 3 tone and just manually ground balance the machine and you will do better.

When it comes to favorite coils, 8x9 concentric on Tejon, 10x12 on the Tejon for deep hunting fields. The Superfly is a great coil and does incrediblly well on the Kruzer but on top of my list would be probably the Detech Ultimate 9" on the Apex. If they made a 9" for other machines I think they would do really well. It is incredibly emi resistant, very robust but not too heavy and has incredible separation. 9" round is a much better general purpose coil size, probably why most XP users stick with that. I find round coils in general easier to push around in vegitation and undergrowth making it a fantastic coil for woods hunting. In general I think 11" coils are a bit big for general purpose as they are harder to separate targets with in high trash areas, more prone to EMI and just heavier where a smaller coil can make the job more efficient and easier for the user. 11" are better suited for open fields and beaches. I agree with Dogodog the concentrics do good on the Tesoros in iron infested areas.

Usually a concentric that has the same volume as a DD will have a little more depth. DD coils have a very narrow and directional null that help in high mineralization and trash as you can better isolate targets where a concentric's null is much wider and more apt to have multiple targets in the same null. Null is the area where the Tx and Rx intersect. Any time a metallic object passes through the null it disrupts the signal and the machine will sound off. Little bit like feedback with a mic and speaker. The null on concentrics is between the Tx and Rx, not the very center as most think. Why a shallow target can cause a double hit more than a dd. Because the detection field is much larger on a concentric they can be noisy in high mineralization or perform poorly such as in the salt. Monty's Nailboard test is a good example of what Jeff is saying. As for Concentrics there are standard 2 coil types Tx outer with Rx inner (reverse wound) and Co-planer where the Tx and Rx are wound flat and the Tx has a reverse wide only around the Rx creating a forced and well defined null. My guess is it would do better in iron infestation than the others but in the case of analog machines may flatten the audio response. Co-planers are more difficult to make as I don't think you can machine wind them.

I use notch audio on my MK in 4 tone as it doesn't have a 99 tone but still incredibly effective for coin shooting at campsites. There is a post somewheres that shows my notch pattern I use using the Normal scale so you can swap frequencies and not shift the breaks.

I believe the falsing is because the shielding is not as robust on the coil wire so any movement causes it to sound off a little. I say that because when it is submerged it doesn't seem to be an issue. EMI in general can be a problem on the Seahunter when on land. I can't use it along one of the big rivers here because of power lines unless I have the box submerged and oddly at dusk at some of the beaches which I think is the wifi alarms being put on. Your ATX has advanced emi control where the SH has none.

I believe it is very similar to the Seahunter and yes it is pretty much a dig all. The discrimination is ok and can knock out some targets but does seem to effect depth and you of course risk losing good targets the higher the disc. Beach hunting for what it is worth the machine may give a double beep in one direction and single in another which more often than not is a long piece of iron like a nail or chunk of lobster trap etc. Coins especially high conductors like silver tend to be a bit softer but there is no real nuances other than that. Hip mount works ok but I have found it will cause the machine to false a little when coil is swung towards the control box so if you hip mount then make sure the box is behind you and not on your side to reduce/eliminate falsing. Skim the sand, any air gaps significantly effect depth. I don't scrape the sand but just off the surface almost touching with nice steady swings.

I have an old RTG made for Whites I use and also one the traditional stainless ones. I like the size of the stainless but it is heavier and wet sand doesn't sift out as easily unless your in the water. For wet sand/beach combing the wire basket type are better. Another alternative is the Nokta scoop as it seems to be the best of both worlds.

Should have a cobweb icon on the corners of older threads 🙂

Keep whiping PA of all it's silver it will be baron like FL... Nice keeper!

Minelab has the PI department pretty well dominated. Think it would be really difficult and expensive to get into that market unless they try their hand for a Manta version for beaches but with all the trash that can be a hard sell. I was looking forward to the Legend but it doesn't replace my Multi Kruzer as you can't run prospecting mode for beach hunting. That leaves a custom all metal beach mode out and only left with MF with ## tones. I use the Kruzer quite a bit at the beach in 5khz in gen mode with manual ground balancing. Works very well. Besides the shotty shells that were on the surface I snuck out a V-Nickel l believe is 1898 and a 46 rosie in less than an hour.

New machines sell because of the bells and whistles and do make detecting fairly easy as someone can just run the numbers in a park and do well. Majority of finds are not hard to detect with just about any machine and only in the more difficult areas where there is poor ground, high emi, deep targets, masked targets and highly hunted areas do people look for that little bit of an edge. If you look back at all the hours we invest into hunting with an analog machine and learning it's language so we don't dig all that trash it is pretty daunting and not everyone has that time or are willing to do that. Lower frequencies do very well in poor ground, it's 5-10khz that wins the day in some the miserable spots and even do well at the beaches with that range. Even most jewelry with the exception of micro jewelry can easily be found with those low frequencies. Of all my machines if I was only to keep one then hands down it would be the Tesoro. Replaced my GB pot today and can't wait to get out there :)

Those are just blue jeans, Steve is much more rugged than you guys give him credit for 🙂

Handwarmers don't get too hot to warp the plastic? I could see how rubber banding one to your unit would keep you warm though.

Not a stock coil on the Excal?

Temps that are really below freezing I won't dig as I think it could damage the electronics especially the built in batteries and lcd screens. For frozen ground usually woods hunting there may be just a little top ground frozen but if there is just a lot of snow then it is pointless as all your depth is given up to the snow itself. Beach hunting I am generally limited to the tide line and cuts at low.