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  1. This beauty here. Converts from a pinpointer to a handheld pulse induction diver with either a 5.5" coil or 8" coil. The loop conversion is optional. You could buy just the pinpointer for around $100 and the option to purchase the loop separately is always there.
  2. Well, I took the plunge and bought my first Nokta-Makro product. I went to my nearest dealer and he had one left. Just the base pinpointer without coil. This actually worked out better for me because I was primarily interested in the 8" coil and didn't want to have to purchase the 5.5" which I doubt I'll ever use. So I paid just $99 for the base unit and he ordered me a coil for $84. This way I pay $183 and get the coil I want, rather than $160 and $84 = $244. Doing it this way, you would not get the nifty carry case however. You'd have to order that separate if you want it. In a few days when the coil comes in I'll leave some thoughts on that. For now, I'll say this and rather begrudgingly...I think this pinpointer is the best deal going right now, even if you don't want the full setup and just want a pinpointer. Like every other NM product released particularly over the last couple years it's very well built, and it is built with the future and innovation in mind. I didn't want to like this company, for a lot of reasons, but they have more to do with my own sentimentality for American and even Western products. Particularly here in the US I didn't want to see companies like Whites boxed into a no win, no profit situation. So, it's never been about performance. I watch the forums and social media enough to know the performance and build quality was there. I needed a product I just couldn't resist. At first I thought that might be an Anfibio or a Simplex, but even they haven't broken down that wall. The original full Pulsedive was already almost too good to resist on its own. Then when Dilek quietly announced the 8" coil and I saw the evidence that it was boosting depth by 30% and coverage too obviously, that set me over the finish line. We know what an underwater metal detector costs in this hobby. Their are competing products that don't offer this much, at a far greater price. Many people seem to do quiet well with just straight forward Pulse induction, and you can't beat 60m (200 feet). Let's face it, if you're looking for lost jewels or a ship wreck, disc is probably mostly out of the question anyway. It would be for me. So not only will this be a pinpointer for me, it will likely be my anything past 10ft primary diver for a while. The base unit is rather large for a pinpointer, but that's to be expected with something that converts to another form, and I don't mind that at all. There's also a possibly unintended advantage here where if any part of this machine fails, it's so compartmentalized you can replace it rather cheaply and easily. The unit feels good in the hand and to me is easy to program/adjust. So far, I have done limited depth comparison, but it seems to be on par with some of the more powerful pinpointers, like my TRX and Tek-Point. If straight up pinpointer depth is all that matters you still seem better off with a TRX, but not by much at all now. That gap is closing and could probably be filled via software at some point. Like the TRX, you can replace any wearable external part on it, including shell. Unlike the TRX you can add on to this (probably in more ways than coil in the future), possibly update its software?, recharge its built in lithium ion battery, pair it with existing and future products, and clearly see it's flashlight. $99 vs $160 bear in mind as you process that. With the base pinpointer I got two caps, several gasket seals, a lanyard, charging/update facility cord, and a well constructed holster. I have no complaints about field performance. Like the TRX and Tek-Point, The power is there to pinpojnt objects above the ground before you ever begin to dig. If you're one of those that thinks that's too much power for a pinpointer, you can dial it back as much as you like too. I do prefer a tip only pinpointer, but I'm not much bothered by those that detect along the entire shaft either. These are my initial impressions. They may be better classified as a value comparison, but I'll leave that up to Steve. I'll share more of the smaller details and coil info when it comes in and I gain more experience with it. At this point though, if I were just starting out, or needed 1 good pinpointer, I think I'd be foolish not to consider this the best deal out there and a no brainer If it could be my only unit. I don't see myself parting with the TRX because it still is the flat out depth demon and I admire it just as a pedal to the floor piece of technology. I do think I will be parting with my Tek-Point however if all else goes well here. This is what any future Tek-Point needs to compete with though, and that's not about depth either. Tek has the punch. It's the innovation and features that set it apart. Update: initially I assumed updateable software thinking I'd read that somewhere. I'm not sure this is the case, and may have mixed up descriptions in my head. I haven't been able to corroborate that yet.
  3. Better get those TRXs while you can. They really are that good. The F-Pulse and Tek-Point are really it's only competition for what it does. I'm going to put at least 1 additional unit away along with a couple shells. Keep your eyes out for any of Whites famous Garage sales as well. As an aside, I could see a company like Garrett being interested in some of what Whites leaves behind. This seems to have been in the works of months if you think back. Garrett has the will to survive. They've shown that. I now find myself more worried about FT in the hobby arena anyway. Maybe there is no money in the low end anymore. There is still room in the high end for the right machine. It's just now you really have to make meaningful advances to sell a machine. The old strategies no longer work. The bottom has been raised that much. So has the middle. Make something better than the Equinox or CTX and I know I'd pony up for American made top shelf.
  4. Very sad. Don't know how far I'll get but I'm going to call up tomorrow and see if I can buy any V3i parts and components to keep it going. If not, I guess now is the time to stock up on backup V3is. Truly is my favorite machine and I'm proud to own it and my Bullseye TRX. Maybe now some cats can be let out of the bag on the V3i. What could it hurt? I second the motion for First Texas to buy up the Whites brand!
  5. After a little more research, it's looking less like an error and more like future plans we haven't been made privy to just yet. 2nd paragraph
  6. This is what I suspect, and that it is some sort of mistake, but it has piqued my interest since I've seen this descriptor twice in two different places. Since the IPTU sensor is only around $600+ any possibility that it could work with other machines in some way caught my attention. I suspect even if it could it would require an additional and much more expensive purchase. Or maybe their are future plans we are unaware of and someone got ahead of themselves.
  7. What do you make of this description on KellyCo? It seems to suggest the IPTU sensor would work with machines other than the Invenio. Does anyone know if that is true and how that would work? "One of the biggest issues that people run into when metal detecting is difficulty with accuracy. The IPTU Sensor (Invenio) is going to help increase your accuracy and help you find more items and be sure what they are and where they are better. This is an easy to install sensor and is going to make a world of difference when it comes to your overall success when metal detecting. This sensor works with Invenio detectors and is a great addition to any metal detector." https://www.kellycodetectors.com/catalog/iptu-sensor-for-invenio
  8. Maybe it's just in my neck of the woods, but I'm seeing Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace, Treasure Classifieds, and EBay with more of these for sale than I've ever seen before. I have to believe it's due to the past and present releases of waterproof and multifrequency models. That and what seems to be a discontinuation of the VX3 for a dwindling supply of certain components. Just a note to anyone who might've wanted one to keep your eye out. Some pretty good deals to be had. To me it's still a relevant and awesome platform. The V3i remains my number 1 go-to even after having machines like the XP Deus and presently having machines like the Equinox 800 and CTX-3030. Aside from the CTX you're really not going to get as much target information from any other machine. For those that hunt in places where there are a lot of deeper isolated targets that warrant some interrogation it's hard to imagine a better machine at the moment. I've seen some sales that include the wireless headphone and several coils like the Ultimate 13 go for $500.
  9. I've never thought the CTX-3030 was worth $2,500. Not when it was fresh, and not now, even though it has still not been surpassed in some respects. I've valued it at about less than half that and refused to buy one until I found one in that range, and could do so comfortably. I felt the same about the V3i and many others. At $2,500 Id expect a machine that can do most anything you can throw at it and be dead on about it. There's no such machine, and I couldn't see paying that kind of money for a machine that is just colorful while being a little less wrong than any other machine in some circumstances, and just as wrong in others. I bought it more than anything for its rough imaging (target trace) to use in open fields with the 17" coil. I've wondered if this is what a lions share of the tag is based on. It seems to be what the invenio tag is based on. That machine is so wildly over priced based on its actual ability that I think we've seen the cutoff as far as how much someone is willing to pay for crude imaging in the hobby market. It doesn't seem to be selling well to professionals either as we've seen drastic price reductions since launch. Minelab seems to have better intuition about how far to go with it (2-dimensional, they weren't going to try guessing their way into the 3rd with VLF technology) and what they can charge. I do have to wonder though, if it were the Minelab Invenio, would it have done better at its price point.
  10. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/935297840248831/ hell of a deal right here. I was tempted myself until I found a local Excalibur II
  11. I'm with Mike Hillis. I love the TRX. Depth is unrivaled and you can change shells if it wears. I also have the Tek-Point and love it as well. Pretty close on depth, maybe even has an edge on low conductors. You can't go wrong with either of those two. Personally I haven't been impressed by the carrot for a while now compared to those two. Not even a close contest in my opinion. I must admit to being curious about the Nokta Makro convertible Pulsedive as well. I'm going to be adding it to my arsenal rignt next to the other two. Seems to have competitive depth as a pinpointer and that new 8" coil for it is the cake topper.
  12. I too was pretty surprised at the relatively quiet release of this coil. Could be some kind of strategy behind that as far as moving prior stock. In any case, this was the clincher for me too. I'm fairly sure I would've ended up with one either way but this sped up the process significantly. It does seem to increase depth detection by around 30%.
  13. One of my concerns in purchasing a CTX-3030 was that a multi-IQ version can't be too far off. Another is that I have a V3i and it seemed a bit redundant. I decided to go ahead and buy one anyway because I'm a fan of target trace and Fe:Co etc. I figure even if a multi-IQ version is released they still aren't going to detect the same. There's also no guarantee that Minelab would continue using a color screen with target trace etc. It could be an entirely different setup and feature set. Plus, I paid little enough that even if a new flagship or paralell flagship were released and the CTX value were diminished I doubt I would lose all that much. Those were the considerations I made. Maybe they will be helpful, maybe not.
  14. You might be surprised. I believe the 13" Detech Ultimate is noticeably lighter than the stock 10" DD coil it replaced. The down side to that is that the plastic housing is also noticeably thinner and more vulnerable. It may be that I'm being paranoid, but I'm much more careful with it because of that. Things like this (coil variation) are really good to know though. I've often wondered how 2 competent people could come up with such disparate air tests on a given machine, all else being equal. It's been head scratching, even frustrating to watch this occur again and again, until now. Knowledge is power. If you know what ails a machine you know what you need to do to bring it up to par. This is not to imply that Simplex has such issues. I can't say it does or doesn't at this point. But its one possible explanation for the variation in reporting. I'll certainly be paying more attention to such things now.
  15. I know you're being facetious, but I really do have a sickness when it comes to owning things that are widely considered one of the best of the best. Whatever my father's motivation was, it was deeply ingrained in us kids that those things weren't for us. We'd never have them. If we ever got them, luck would never have it. I remember reading issues of Hot Rod magazine and daydreaming about a mint condition red 1979 Trans-Am with T-tops etc. "Don't kid yourself, you'll NEVER have one." Years later when I got one I almost couldn't believe it was real. I had to keep looking out into the driveway. Same when I bought a house, an iPhone, MacBook etc. Sometimes It takes some doing, but I always find my way up, and it means a lot to me when I get there. I look at the collection I have now and from where I started I feel like I should be on the outside looking in.
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