Jeff McClendon

His first time out with the the detector and in a public area........maybe he did not want to be an audio nuisance to others. Otherwise, I totally agree with you. It would have been nice to hear the targets more clearly. My iPhone pods have a microphone built in which I just put inside my detector headphones.....its easy.

I prefer Aaron's videos usually so have a look at this too.

Agreed. The question for me using the Legend and the Deus 2 is, do these detectors have the hot ground capabilities of the Equinox 800 which will operate in just about any hot soil conditions. Where I often detect, most single frequency higher frequency VLF gold detectors will easily overload and are hard to ground balance. The Equinox 800 handles these areas easily even at sensitivity levels around 20 of 25 with no coil knock sensitivity and no obvious loss of target separation due to high iron mineralization masking using the 6" or Coiltek 10X5" coil. I did use the Gold Kruzer on these sites and it barfed badly even at low sensitivity levels and with ISAT cranked up using its smaller coils. Hopefully, Nokta Makro's Legend has the "secret sauce" to internally adjust for these hot ground conditions using its Gold Field mode. By the way, the only other VLF that runs smoothly at these sites is the Deus 1 and ORX in their Gold modes.......go figure.

Thanks Luis for posting this video by Iffy Signals who is a detectorist that I definitely trust. I have emailed and chatted online with him and he tells it like it is for his hunting conditions. His soil is moderately mineralized. That means it is mineralized enough to badly skew single frequency detector target IDs including other Nokta Makro models that Iffy Signals has tested. So, even though the Legend has a different numerical target ID scale (0 to 60) from Nokta Makro's previous 0 to 99 scale, it was easy to see that all of the deep high conductor US silver and copper coin targets had very accurate IDs and tones similar to the Equinox. He was using default tone settings so like the Equinox 800 it is possible to adjust the Legend's tone breaks so that all of those silver targets will produce just one tone not the two different tones that were sounding since the IDs were straddling the medium high/high tone break point on both detectors. For me, the most important target was the US V nickel which is a non-ferrous low conductor 5 gram, 75% copper, 25% nickel coin that normally reads 12/13 on the Equinox with a medium low tone. The Equinox hit that target well. So did the Legend with its 22 ID and medium low tone. That was very impressive. The Racers,Simplex, Kruzers and Anfibios that I have tested and used on in the ground US nickel targets deeper than 4" have always up averaged them into the silver range. The Legend in all of the modes used detected the 8" V nickel accurately. That was the type of testing I needed to see since I know where Iffy Signals detects and I have some experience with that dirt which is by no means mild.

Don't know about the Beach programs. The closest thing to a threshold based all metal mode on the Deus 1 and Deus 2 (like the Equinox 800 Gold modes) are the Gold Field and Relic modes, if that is what you are asking....... If you are asking if there is a factory preset mode with no targets rejected as the default setting......I have no clue. With Deus 1 and the ORX, I just set the iron discrimination level wherever I want. I am assuming you can do that with any of the default detecting modes including the Beach modes by setting discrimination anywhere from -6.4 to +99. Reading the manual like Steve linked above is a good idea along with watching Gary Blackwell's videos and waiting for Hugh to answer. Page 46 in the manual shows all of the programs and their factory default settings.

The Equinox has the horseshoe button that instantly with one push accepts all targets in the full -9 to +40 ID range. Press it again and you are instantly back to your preset discrimination pattern. So, the horseshoe button does not create another mode by pressing it like Park, Field, or Beach. It just accepts all targets in the mode you are using. The Deus 1 and it appears, the Deus 2 do not have a single button press that does this. You could have two saved custom programs side by side, one with all targets accepted like pressing the horseshoe button and one with the same program but with your chosen preset discrimination or notched pattern and toggle between them. The Equinox's single or multiple digit notching is pretty easy using the accept/reject setting. At least with Deus 1, I found notching to be a pain in the butt. Maybe it will be easier and more accurate on Deus 2. On Deus 2 you do have Iron Audio on or off along with volume levels, the Silencer with several levels and Bottle Cap reject.

Supposed to be waterproof to 60 feet with a battery in the shaft????

A battery and other technology would have to fit into a 5" coil..........I doubt it can be done.

I appreciate his work so far. I know he hasn’t got the coil over any two shovel targets yet but so far the IDs are stable. I wish he would at least bring his ORX with him to compare ID stability. I really like the Square tones. Thanks XP for listening to many of your customers who did not care for PWM audio.

I am not trying to confuse things but it is really easy for me to get confused. I have read through the Deus ll manual three times. No where do I see a reference to an adjustment that could be done on the Deus 1 which was ID normalization ON........every target ID no matter what frequency is being used will register a target ID that corresponds to target IDs for 18 kHz and ID normalization OFF......the higher the frequency the higher the target ID. There was this one slightly confusing paragraph in the manual (for me anyway) in the Display Target ID section.... One of the advantages and special features of Deus ll is its programs, as they use different combinations of simultaneous frequencies while adapting to multiple ground types (see Programs) However, a few ferromagnetic targets will generate specific displays on certain programs. These targets cannot be generalized due to their ferrous components, otherwise there will be a risk of falsifying the display of all the other targets. E.g. one or two euro coins (ferromagnetic ring + copper center) will display 75 in the Diving and Relic programs but 80 in all the other programs. Diving and Relic use fairly low detecting frequencies from about 4 to 13 kHz, whereas the others include higher frequencies such as 40 kHz. So people in countries with steel core currency may experience this issue. Otherwise, hopefully the real answer is yes all target IDs are normalized to some frequency (18kHz???) no matter what program or frequency whether simultaneous multi frequency or single frequency unless you are in the Diving or Relic program referenced above.;

Chase, you are definitely “The Man”. I just hope that Deus 2’s FMF technology can equal or better Multi IQ in the areas I hunt. Five years ago, after watching many online videos showing the Deus 1 finding deep targets in European conditions, I blindly figured I would get the same results here where I detect. Boy was I wrong and I seriously doubted my sanity, was there something wrong with my Deus 1 and had I totally wasted my hard-earned money. I could care less how ergonomic Deus 1 was or how high tech/wireless it was. It just didn’t work any better than my F19 besides having faster recovery speed and felt better on the arm. The Equinox changed everything for me and basically instead of being disappointed, I was shocked at how well it performed here and continues to impress with depth, target ID all the way down to near the depth of detection, surprisingly good performance in iron compared to most other detectors other than Deus and its versatility and ability to handle just about any soil conditions. I would like to at least buy a Deus 2 Lite. However, I don’t want another big disappointment like I had with Deus 1 aside from using it for relic hunting in thick iron trash and for prospecting.

I love this topic since I get to argue with just about everybody on this one especially Chase. First for Palzynski, in my personal and experienced opinion the only configuration using the Deus 1, ORX (haven't touched a Deus 2 yet but assume it is similar) that is truly and wonderfully ergonomic is with 9" round or elliptical coils. Using an 11" or larger coil..........I get arm and wrist pain fairly quickly due to most of the weight being in the bigger coil which makes the detector nose heavy. So weight is relative to the coil being used and how balance is distributed in the detector design. For Chase, where I detect most often, your conventional description of how single frequencies work are pointless. Depth is better achieved here by detectors running at frequencies over 14 kHz. Park 1 and Field 1 are not deeper than Park 2 and Field 2 or the Gold modes on any targets of any conductivity due to moderate to high mineralization. So, either I am stupid, I have a giant misconception of the laws of physics or there is something going on inside the Equinox in Multi and hopefully the Deus 2 using FMF that defies the laws of physics. VLF detectors running at frequencies lower than a combined roughly 14 kHz are blind to deeper 6"+ coin sized targets here no matter who made them or how much they cost. They just don't detect them well here if at all, with no target IDs or a jumbled mess of target IDs and tones. Most single frequency detectors including the Deus 1 are done with reliable target information on coin sized targets at 4" and users of these detectors rarely bother to dig targets that their hand held pinpointer won't hit unless they are in a relic area with very deep targets of various sizes. The Equinox best use here is to run Park 1 or iron range modified to -9 to 0 Field 1 (little or no coke/charcoal here ) for general detecting and to hit the same site with Park 2 or iron range modified -9 to 0 Field 2 for the deeper and harder to hit partially masked or poorly oriented coin sized targets. This goes for coin sized targets of any conductivity. I have dug the mythical 8 to 10" clad and silver dimes along with 8" to 10" Indian, wheat and memorial pennies in Park 2 and Field 2 along with some extremely deep Indian War relics over 10" deep. I have yet to dig any 10" coin sized or relic targets in Park 1 and Field 1.............??????? The Gold modes are by far the deepest modes here period, not even a contest on any sized targets of any conductivity.

I like it too. But, now I can't argue with you anymore...........

So Chase, in the scenario that you, JCR and I all see as how this "spare" battery works, it will power the Legend and simultaneously charge the internal battery.........? Plenty of information gets lost in translation from Turkish, French, and even Aussie and Brit English to American slang.

Nope, which is too bad, my favorite coils.

Just so I can understand if this is what you are saying....... the main battery and replaceable spare battery both mount underneath the arm cuff. Did I get that right? Why is only one battery and charger shown in what is included in the box and with the battery and charger pictured being labeled a "spare". No other battery is shown especially the non "spare" battery.

The backup battery is installed directly under the arm cuff. One can see the design difference underneath the Simplex arm cuff and the Legend arm cuff in the latest photos of the Legend.

I am not sure where the battery is located in the current Legend. It was never in the handle of the Simplex. It was integrated into the control pod. As far as ergonomics of the Simplex, the supplied 11” coil was a bit of a boat anchor. The Legend’s 11” coil has a different design with a center of the coil mounting area. So hopefully it will have better ergonomics and balance than the Simplex. With smaller coils the Simplex felt great, similar to the Equinox with its 6” or 10 X 5” Coiltek coil.

Agreed. The last thing I want to do when I am coin and jewelry hunting in a public area with digging restrictions is repeatedly swing a coil (like 20 to 30 times) over a target to try to wiggle out some kind of dependable target ID. Same goes for changing programs, settings or frequencies just to decide to dig or not. I just don't have time for that and I don't see the point in a common coin and jewelry hunt situation where most of the targets are 8" deep or less. I guess that is why I enjoy the Equinox so much. I sure hope the Legend will be a big improvement in that department.

I can fully understand your interest in the ORX. On paper it looks like just the ticket for a simple to use version of the Deus 1. In many ways (prospecting and relic hunting) it is just as good or better since the white HF coils were literally made for it. For hunting for coins and jewelry in modern aluminum trash.....at least for me, after many hours of using it in that situation, I can make it work just fine. Good quality coin and jewelry targets within the easy 0 to 4" depth level are no brainers on the ORX and Deus. But the do I dig or pass decision on so many almost good sounding targets with unstable target IDs, which turn out to be trash (from painful experience) way too often gets frustrating after about an hour along with hearing hundreds of tiny aluminum targets. Would I pick the ORX over the Equinox in a bed of nails situation....absolutely but I would follow it up with the Equinox before I left that site. It appears that XP have solved the unstable, up averaged, generally unreliable numerical target ID issues that bedeviled the Deus 1 and ORX when used in my area. New Deus 2 users out here should be digging a lot less aluminum trash in the parks and sports fields in my area in the future.

Personally, I have always trusted the waterproof Nokta Makro detectors I have owned and submerged and they have not failed to survive a good dunking. Unfortunately, the unstable target ID issue has always been a negative for me in most of the places I hunt. I am hoping the Legend will be a big improvement over the Anfibio and Simplex in that department which for me is the only negative that I have with the Impact/Anfibio/Simplex line of detectors.

Performance is near the top for me......I want as much depth with good target separation and especially good target ID as possible. Most of the places I hunt which are coin and jewelry turf sites require it due to digging restrictions. The Equinox has consistently provided the best results for me at those sites by a wide margin. I am definitely one of the people who had reservations about whether another metal detector manufacturer could produce SMF technology that could rival that of the Equinox on their first attempt at SMF. It appears that XP at least, has done just that which is fantastic. I am very delighted to experience how the XP Deus 2 has much improved audio choices, much improved target ID on deeper targets and still maintained its lightening fast speed while running FMF. I can't wait to try one. Hopefully the Legend will also offer big performance boosts in my area with its much improved audio choices and SMF technology. It already has a history from other models of above average recovery speed and rugged build. I can't wait to try one of those either. I have never been a good person for marketing or sales. I am much more of a lead by example, one among many kind of person. I try not to judge marketing people too harshly when they appear to be belittling or bashing a competitor. From what I have seen, Minelab, Nokta Makro, Garrett, and the former Whites all display a fairly high level of confidence, arrogance and one up man ship, that I personally would not tolerate in my own actions. But, they have to sell metal detectors to all sorts of people from different cultures and places. What I do appreciate is when a manufacturer goes out of their way to ask for suggestions from customers and come through with improvements to their product based on those suggestions. Nokta Makro for sure and Minelab in their own way which is much less direct, have done just that. Obviously, XP, without any fanfare have been listening too. Personal attacks on Dilek, judgements about her appearance and cultural mannerisms really turn me off a lot more than her marketing strategies, which are her business choices based on what she thinks will work. Whether I agree with them or not........or I will base a detector purchase on what her hair looks like........give me a break.

I recently bought an almost new ORX for less than $300, sold my Deus 1 Lite and will keep my HF elliptical coil for the ORX with its normalized HF coil IDs and 81 kHz frequency ceiling for gold prospecting. I too hope to purchase a Deus 2 Lite sometime in 2022. I don't need the full Deus 2 for what I do since I won't be diving and I have the waterproof kit for the ORX/Deus 2 Lite WS6 whenever I need it. I am still interested in the Legend and plan to buy one and try it out even if I end up selling it later. I will keep my Equinox 800 too.

With your buried clay layer, I would be ground balancing very carefully. That requires that you have nothing rejected when you ground balance. So, turn on the Nox 600, do a noise cancel, press the horseshoe button to accept all targets, find a relatively clean spot and do a quick ground grab. Once the Nox 600 has settled on a number you are ready to go. Press the horseshoe button to reject the iron range and go detect.

A fourth good reason at least for my area is that it appears that XP's version of simultaneous multi frequency may actually work and offer depth and target ID advantages in more places than sites with very mild dirt, saltwater beaches and shallow targets. I still talk to Deus 1 owners who assume that the Deus 2 will automatically work well in high iron mineralization just because it has SMF technology. I caution them to check with some owners of another new SMF detector made by Garrett and see how theirs are doing in the bad dirt out here. I am keeping my fingers tightly crossed that Deus 2 and the Legend will do well here.