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  1. Two days in a row I have been at sites where there was so much trash that I could not be sure of hearing good targets if they were there. The take from these places was less than usual even though the ground had lots of traffic and the junk that accompanies that traffic. I tried various settings and strategies with little success. I am left to wonder if someone is better at picking trash or if something about these places makes the Tarsacci less effective than usual. The only differences apparent were that the detector ground balanced higher than most local soil, there were less high tone targets, and there were many more crown caps than most places which accounted for most of the high tones there were. Very few coins at all. Not much to go on. Any thoughts?
  2. A busy summer has left little time for metal detecting, or even keeping track of what is happening in the world of metal detecting. Out yesterday for the first time in a while, and enjoyed a couple hours away from it all. The Tarsacci is still my favorite detector ever. It just performs, and experimenting with it is still a joy. New detectors everywhere, but this one is still the one I want, and the big coil is never coming off it. Hilarious how it works in heavy junk. Has anyone heard any more about the new detector Tarsacci is said to be working on? There was the thread below looking for suggestions, but that is gone cold. Has anything more has come out anywhere? There was an interview with Dimitar on YouTube some time back where he mentioned working on a gold detector. This sticks in mind just because of how the current model performs compared to other detectors. It is to wonder just what sort of gold detector a mind like Dimitar would come up with. The MDT might be the last detector I would ever need. It works better for me than anything I have ever used. It is a shame no one seems to talk much about it anymore, but really, beyond a certain point there is not much left to say. It is deceptively simple, easy to operate after some experience with it, and has surprising capability that seems to pass unnoticed. But still, a gold machine like this maybe…?
  3. Seems like the Tarsacci is running out of steam in the face of all the new competition. Yeah, I know some of you guys love them. But what buzz they had seems to be about gone. Thoughts?
  4. In my haste, made a bunch of mistakes filming, I almost scrapped the video but instead decided to add subtitles to my errors. Due to the vast amount of settings, more bottle cap reject tests are needed w this D2…. Aaron
  5. After five months of testing with Tarsacci on the same site, I can say that this detector performs better in an environment full of iron and ceramics compared to DEUS II and The Legend Nokta Makro. Requires more time to learn and the audio is slightly less describing the objects in the ground. On the one hand, it is not distracting, on the other hand, it causes questions. Iron does not mask as much as in SMF devices. Similarly, the temperature above 30 degrees C The Legend and Deus II lose performance and stability after 15 - 20 minutes, the Tarsacci is doing much better. Maybe it's a performance issue or maybe it's a hybrid technology. I do not know. Target signaling comfort is better in The Legend and D2. In Tarsacci, the object must in DISC mode produce a fast repetitive ding-dong signal. A small copper coin 10mm in diameter by 25cm from a very irony spot is not a problem. Sand soil. Ergonomy is slight better with D2 and The Legend.
  6. This one is for the cache and relic hunters.... There is an old camping spot I know of that makes an ideal testing ground for detectors. It's ultra trashy, being a popular recreation and hunting area for many, many centuries. People's of all ages have left behind every imaginable item - arrowheads, ancient stone tools, old wagon parts, stoves, bottles, engine parts - a cornucopia of items lost or abandoned. Last summer I finally got around to testing the Tarsacci in this challenging area. It's an alluvial fan where two creeks join, only about three acres in size. Every spring the snow above the canyon melts, which brings down a new layer of silt and gravel, covering up the items left behind from the previous year. The metal trash layer is about 4 feet thick, dating from about 1870 to the present day. There is a paved road that goes right alongside of it, and many detectorists have had a try on it over the last half century or so. They usually give up on it on account of the bewildering amount of worthless items detected on every swing. In the photo are just the bullet casings from a 10 ft. sq. area. It's so bad all you can do is laugh about it. This place has been shot to hell from every angle...I only had time to spend a few hours here on this visit, so I decided just to lift the coil(11"x9") and see if I could find some larger items underneath the surface trash. To clear the bullet casings I had to lift the coil about 15", which eliminated most of the small objects. This way only the large items would be detected, and there were lots of those. First up was a solid signal with a TID of 16, ground was 685, 6.4khz. I lifted the coil up to 24" before the signal faded. Definitely a large item. It was a tin sign, about 6" x 10", laying flat, 10" down. So that's about 34" with an 11" coil. So depth was about 3X coil size. Not bad! Next up was another strong signal. TID of 18, ground 700, 6.4khz. Again, I lifted the coil further up about 18", until the signal was gone. Found a crushed aluminum food container 18" down. So that's 36". It was approx. 4" x 6" in size. Irregular shape too. It disintegrated while trying to pull it out. In the pic you can see it at the bottom edge of the hole. What was strange is it didn't pinpoint dead center. It took me over an hour to enlarge the hole wide enough to locate the target. But you know, that's really good depth. Like, GPX kind of good! In all, I located about a dozen aluminum cans, some wire, and a couple of larger iron items I couldn't identify. It was a lot of work, but worth it because I had no idea an IB type of detector could do this with a standard sized coil. Much kudos to Dimitar - his detector definitely has an edge when it comes to larger items buried at depth. My next project will be to bury a 10 oz. silver bar and see how the MDT 8000 compares to the GPX 5000, in really hot ground. I know just the place. Should be interesting....
  7. I was talking to Dimitar this morning. Hes looking for input we'd like to see for the NEXT MDT. The current MDT is what it is. So hes not doing any special mods. But he is wanting to get ideas. Couple of mine 1. Change the tone to a more standard tone. Huge difference in the water because they would be a bit better separated and longer. 2. reduce the size of the lower and middle shaft ... more a standard size. Much like SteveG did. 3. Add a bit of rubber under the cuff because in the water it shifts from the torque. 4. Allow a bit more time when doing adjustment before it switches back. 5. I dont use the PP switch, but would like to have an easier way to toggle from AM to Disc when reverse disc. and have that button a bit larger. 6. Move the direction of the headphone connector so the cable goes over the shaft. 7. change the angel of the handle, my hand tends to slip up and pushes on the box. 8. See if we can get the 12khz to work in the water or a multi freq. Feel free to add yours and they will be passed on. Im hoping some of these will be added to the NEXT machine.
  8. This is a thing discussed before, but I forget where. Today I was out for a little while and found a most unusual amount of quarters and dimes. The TID of these things was all over the place, meaning that there was no usual TID number for anything, but they had a nice clean signal. A lot of pocket change in general today, which is usual, but an unusual amount of quarters and dimes with no consistent number but had good signal tone. This I have seen many times before, but have not ever had a good explanation for. The Christmas money for my girls is mounting up. These are easy targets for any detector, and not usually passed by anyone. Of course lots of people ignore zincolns, but in well hunted areas it is rare to see so many quarters and dimes. Nickels I expect to be there because they look like pull tabs usually, but the Tarsacci loves round and I dig everything not obviously iron that sounds good, so I get them often. My theory of this is that something in the ground matrix, or in the state of the coin from being in the ground awhile, changes target ID enough that they are not properly identified by the detector for what they are. I would love to hear the thoughts of others. I see this regularly. I find no setting that returns these to their usual TID without losing trash suppression. Thoughts anyone?
  9. Hi all, Just thought I'd show these informal air tests I did a few months ago. First photo is a steel pole @ 5.5ft. Second photo is a steel plate in a ravine approx. 5-6ft away. Third photo: a pile of junk(things I dug/found at my favorite secret site.). Detector has strong response @ 4 feet. Fourth photo: my lovely 2020 Mazda Miata @ 7ft. Fifth photo is a 150,000 gallon diesel storage tank @ approx. 12ft. away. The wall has rebar in it and is 8ft. from the coil. These all were done with the Beast coil at max sensitivity. These results are simply outstanding - the best results I've seen from an IB detector with a mid-sized coil on large ferrous objects. Tarsacci seems to be maxxed out @ 8 ft. (in the air), no matter the size of the object. I have some even more interesting in-the-ground results - I'll share these in a subsequent post....
  10. Dimitar now has the 12” coil cover for sale. I know several people had asked for it. Here is mine. I tried to show it so you could see the thickness….. it appears to be about twice the thickness of the standard coil cover. Fits very well. Yes to those who want to ask if it’s heavier. Obviously twice the thickness will equal a bit more weight …BUT adds tons of protection. Price I believe is $15 or $20.
  11. Fiddled with some settings, switched to 18 freq and went Gold Ring hunting. Headed out to one of my favorite sites, a football field off a Middle School. Since 2002 I've dug over a thousand clad coins, some silver rings, couple silver quarters and one Honker of a Gold Band out of there. It has been dorment for quite a few years now, even the trash is scarce. Anyways going out hoping for something Gold or at least break a Buck. In between dead spots I started digging +07 ,bouncing up to +12 .....Started getting red clad nickels. Nine nickels out of just 23 coins. Did dig 2 pull tabs couple small pieces of alum between those numbers. Every time I'd hit one of those nickel signals I would dream this gotta be a ring. Nope Nickels all nine of them. I believe +07 to +12 was caused by variances in depth, laying on its side and one was laying with a penny. Also I think 18 freq, the numbers trend a little higher. 9 Nickels, $1.25 is actually a good hunt out of that field. Well keep banging around nickels the Gold will turn up someday. (Better hurry tho )
  12. I have been testing the salt balance and KHZ on a small gold 14 k ring and a merc dime and a regular white gold ring and some tabs and various foils , and today i took the Tarsacci out to a high school base ball diamond , loaded with foils most of the coins i found had long been in the ground, and i even found a 7" deep 1944 wheat cent , I managed to dig one foil seen in picture, it was 1" deep , but the thing i like about the Tarsacci is it sees thru the foils and hits coins below the foils that you can not hear , yes silent on the foil in the surface and hitting a coin below it . I can not do that with my ORX .If i get a foil signal of 34 and a coin in 2" under it it still comes in at 32 or is masked , i would have to dig the foil but with the Tarsacci the foils are gone and its just seeing thru them and hitting the coins my settings 3 gain and 0 threshold , 44 salt balance, black sand on . and i even cranked it up to 5 gain, and still no digging foils , at 6 gain you may have to introduce a -1 threshold to knock out the foils but its hitting deep on high conductors and 6" to 9" on rings
  13. Today out hunting, the detector started acting up. Chattery and unsteady like when in extreme EMI. No adjustment to settings made much difference. While shutting it off to leave it was noticed that the battery had almost no charge at all left. What a maroon. It is all too easy to forget about the battery when it lasts so long. Don’t be a maroon like some people.
  14. I am still unclear what threshold does on this machine, and what it actually changes in terms of signal quality and machine response to target. It does not seem to act in the way I understand the term so I am unsure how to actually use it to make the MDT do what I want it to do. That seems true in some of the other controls too, everything is a little different, but they are easier to see the result of in real time. Can anyone make sense of this for me in real terms?
  15. Let me start this off... Cliff if i miss speak please correct me. I have to say i was impressed with the Deus on wet sand. It got a bit more depth on some of the gold rings we tested. These werent methodical tests.... drop a ring in a 14" hole and see what happens. Cliff is also in the learning process..... but it helps hes a VERY good hunter and no matter the machine he knows a weak target others might miss. Build wise.... he bought the new upper shaft which is longer and stablized the lower from flexing in the water. So the shaft seems pretty good even for water hunting. He put the antenna cable inside the shaft..... nice. He was using Tony Eisenhower phones.... which he had to turn down the volume on. I did NOT swing the machine thou he offered. I was more interested in seeing how it did.... ill save using it for another day.... when hes got it really dialed in lol. Is still like to see those coil ears moved more toward the center of the coil to reduce coil flip, ear wear, balance, and breakage from leaning on it. The way the shaft is made it appears more contact can be made by the locks. Clearly the Deus will get equal to of a bit better depth on the wet sand than the MDT.... thats saying something since the Nox fell a little short. Thou again hes still in the learning phase and we were basicly air testing by dropping targets in a hole. Some machines dont do well using this method. The Deus CAN noise cancel out the MDT and didnt appear to create silent EMI like the Nox did reducing depth. So we really never had to move the machines very far away when checking targets. Right off the bat i hit a couple of targets he didnt find..... turned out to be deep can slaw. He adjusted his disc setting and that fixed that. We hit one target fairly deep with a mixed signal which we both thought maybe bottle cap.... turned out to be a silver toe ring with a large piece of iron under it. Targets were really just not there either. I intentionally brought 3 targets, small chain, tiny cross, and hollow gold earring. These were found with the Nox using the 40khz gold program in a volleyball course. As expected the Deus nor the MDT hit those setting on top of that wet sand. My impression is the Deus is a very capable machine and quieter than the Nox in the water. Build is a better than i expected thou time will tell. Based on some of the comments thou they still need to make some updates. With any multi use machine thou you really need to test a lot ..... water, wet ... then dry sand and make those tweaks. If you dont.... the the term "you dont know what you dont know" applies. You just wont know if you have it dialed in.... and right now everyone is in a learning curve or should be. A skilled hunter as we say can find gold with a stick..... so considering ive done my testing, have time on my machine, and have it dialed the way i like it. The Deus impressed.... and id say can do even better. AND no ive still not got one on order....lol. I like the MDTs simplicity. Make no mistake ..... buying a great machine doesnt make you great.... ya have to put in the time. As i say.... never sell a new machine until you have payed for it in finds... by then you have a pretty good idea if it suits you. the warranty duration is considerably longer than the MDT. However…. The way it’s written to me is some concern. as a water hunter. No good having if for some reason it floods and they opt not to replace it. Hopefully they will be as responsive as ML. Seems pretty water tight thou so hopefully it will never be an issue.
  16. What does anyone like for Tarsacci Headphones for wading? It would seem simple connection waterproofing of stock headphones would be enough for general purpose, but not available. Sent a message to Dimitar asking if he did these, no answer. Taking that as a no, is there a cost effective way to waterproof the connection? Electrical tape comes to mind. Is a very small mind. Any thoughts?
  17. Now I am not starting a fight hear but I own a Tarsacci, and was wondering has anyone compared the two detectors, i would like to know
  18. showing my tarsacci foils settings, and how it can detect a 14 k ring under foils , Normally if you had disc on foils you can not hit another target under it but the Tarsacci can . and can be used to great effect in those foils laden sites
  19. thanks fellow diggers, Today i was looking for Gold with the Tarsacci- i worked on some settings for it. and came up with a setting for finding Gold rings wich ignors small foils and yet hits hard on small gold rings, as deep as 8 inches deep , and gets normal size Gold at 8 and 9 inches deep . when i was working out the settings i found the pull tabs where coming in 2 inches deeper than the Gold Rings so i found the sweat spot that actually dropped the depth of the pull tabs and increased the depth of the gold rings so that they now are both comming in at the same depth, this is the setting on the Tarsacci i used for todays hunt , of course i found no Gold but just tabs and some larger can slaw but the small foils Gone , and in a school basseball field that is a big deal , now the tarsacci will not just be silent on the small foils , it will see right thrue then and hit a gold ring and i mean way below the foil Tarsacci Gold ring setting 5 gain, threshold -1 to -3 black sand on , salt balance 47, and using 18khz , and by the way, please share your setting for finding Gold rings.
  20. I am looking for the help of the Tarsacci community. I have read almost every post on most every forum about the Tarsacci. What I rarely see are posts that detail best settings and how and when to alter those settings in the environment you are in. My reason behind this Cookbook is to help the Tarsacci become a much more popular metal detector. I can go on youtube and look at thousands of Equinox videos, I can even see hundreds of Deus 2 videos and the machine is not even available, but there are very few Tarsacci videos that help you understand or even want to purchase a Tarsacci. Since Aaron's forum is down there are even less avenues to look for Tarsacci information. On Tom's forum there is a Tarsacci topic that is 88 pages of posts. That's over 8000 pages of printed material. Not to many potential new buyers will wade through this for a buying decision. Steve Herschbach has been kind enough to offer to host and monitor this Topic so that it does not become thousands of pages of off topic posts. So please post how you use your Tarsacci and what tricks and tips you have discovered. Even thou I live in Western Pennsylvania, I primarily use my Tarsacci on the beaches in South Carolina. I take vacations and hunt for a week at a time. Here are my best setting and ideas. I hunt wet sand from the splash zone to the high tide line on fairly flat, non mineralized, South Carolina beaches. My standard starting settings are Salt 45, Frequency 6.4k, Threshold -1, Discrimination -30, Sensitivity 8, Mixed Mode and GB 630 +/- 50 points. I am not hunting for micro jewelry. I am big game hunting for gold rings. I have found that 6.4k and Salt 45 is usually the deepest frequency for me, but I know I am probably giving up the opportunity for micro gold jewelry. I am ok with that for the added depth. 6.4k is also the best with EMI caused by iPhones, condo wifi and hotels. I have found that the Threshold setting is much more important than the Sensitivity setting and if the Emi is high I will lower the Sensitivity before I lower the Threshold setting. If the Tarsacci starts acting up and giving false signals I try to look around and see what has changed. Am I closer to buildings, people or has the Salt balance setting changed for some reason? I have found if the false signals have a fluttering sound to it, it is usually one of three things. Either EMI has increased because of building or people, helicopter or low fly planes overhead or rapidly approching thunder storms. If it is a rapid fire false signals, chances are my Salt settings are off. Usually a walk down to the splash zone will confirm which one it is. I hunt in Mixed Mode and with the discrimination at -30 because I want to hear where the Iron is. I have been told that treasure runs with trash and I believe that to be true. One little trick that I have found recently is if I find a very faint, scratchy signal where the VDI is all over the board and the pinpoint numbers are very low, I raise the Sensitivity and Pinpoint the target. Even thou the settings are to high to hunt in, it enables my Tarsacci to lock onto the target and Pinpoint the target for me. That way I can take a couple of scoops off the top to see if it's a target worth pursuing. I Pinpoint every target before starting to dig to improve my recovery rate. I owned an Equinox and hated how it Pinpointed and lost targets when the hole would collapse and sink out of detection range. The Tarsacci is excellent at Pinpointing and I take advantage of this fact. The last little trick that I have discovered is that the Tarsacci has a recovery rate that is fast enough for me to keep the Tarsacci on, hold the coil an inch off the ground and walk to a new area I wish to hunt. If I walk over a target, the Tarsacci sounds off and I can futher investigate the target. It is kind of like trolling for targets. This is especially useful on day 5 or 6 of hunting when my arms feel like they are going to fall off. I hope other Tarsacci users will add their settings and tips for Relic hunting in both hot and mild soil, junky park hunting, black sand beach hunting, fresh water hunting, under water hunting...........etc. I would love for this to become a source of information that a new Tarsacci owner can come to and get a starting point to use their detector. Then they can experimenting with setting to better understand this fantastic machine. Thank you in advance for sharing.
  21. I've had an interest in the Tarsacci for a while now, not enough of an interest to want one but more so an interest in what it's capable of. We have some of the worst or best depending on how you look at it black sand beaches in the World in New Zealand. I stumbled across a video of a person using their Tarsacci on a black sand beach near New Plymouth on the North Island. New Plymouth is right under Mount Taranaki which is an active volcano and is a source of the black sand on New Zealand's North Island's west coast beaches. Some information on the beaches from a government website Scientists like Dr Hume can trace the origins of sand from the different proportions of minerals it contains. The snowy white sands of Parengarenga in Northland, for instance, are formed from quartz; while the golden sands of Golden Bay get their colour from the weathered iron (iron oxide) in granite. The black sand found on the west coast of the North Island, is made of titanomagnetite – a mixture of titanium and iron. This soft material comes from Mount Taranaki and is swept up the coast as far as North Cape – a distance of about 400 km – ground into rounder and finer grains as it goes. “This is the biggest journey of sand anywhere in New Zealand, probably taking hundreds or thousands of years” says Dr Hume. “The sand is moved along this coastal highway by the prevailing waves that drive north from the southern ocean, stopped by headlands – ‘temporary carparks’ – along the way. The big sandpit at the end is Pandora Banks, a series of shoals off North Cape.” Waves do most of the work moving sand; tidal currents do very little. Wherever there’s white water, sand is being bounced along the seabed. As any surfer will know, the wave energy on the west coast is very high, so it winnows out the less dense (and lighter-coloured) quartz and feldspar sands, leaving the denser black ironsand behind. Sand can travel thousands of kilometres over time. But how long does it take to make sand from rock or shell? This depends on the type and hardness of rock (or shell), and how fast it’s broken down by weathering in the soil and during its transport by rivers to the sea. “Hard minerals like feldspar and quartz – the source of creamy coloured sand on many beaches north of Auckland and in the Bay of Plenty – take thousands of years to get ground down to sand. Shells are much softer and may only take tens or hundreds of years,” says Dr Hume. “On some beaches, shell is the primary source of sand,” says Dr Hume. “Overharvesting of pipis and cockles in harbours and estuaries can mean sand is in short supply.” On the other hand, the invasion of the hard-shelled Pacific oyster in the Manukau Harbour has converted some sandy beaches to shelly beaches, because Pacific oyster shells take longer to wear down than the shells of native shellfish. You can see there are many types of sand that give beaches around the country their characteristic appearances and feel. So next time you are on the beach, take a closer look at the sand and ponder its origins. Here is her video. The interesting thing about this detector is they claim they've made an 11x9 inch "NZ Coil", a coil specifically made for detecting on NZ's black sand beaches, this is it for sale at our local Tarsacci dealer. https://www.dredgenz.co.nz/product/11x9-inch-tarsacci-nz-coil/ While this New Plymouth beach she's at is a black sand beach, it's not one of the really black beaches like these in the photos below, both are further up the North Island from where she's detecting. I wonder how it goes on them. I'm yet to find a video of it being used on a really heavy black sand beach.
  22. Shouldn't you consider a Tarscassi too? The prices are close. I imagine the performance is close.
  23. Sanded in is really a challenge. Everyone and all machines coming in with low finds. On the other hand someone gets a little luck once in a while. It was my turn the other day. Tarsacci got its first Gold the other day. Just 3.3 grams 14k id tag off a bracelet. Humble as it is it sure felt good. Numbered +03 - +04. No minus numbers. I've been hunting in All metal for the most part. On this beach 9 Frec and lower quiets the machine way down.
  24. i found a bunch of Gold ring s white gold , yellow gold ,small and large, from 12k to 14 k on the tarsacci i got a lot of bouncing around on the numbers in 6.5khz and almost non at 18khz most of the rings come in at 04--05-06-07-08 anyone noticed that as well ?
  25. I finally had a chance to get out with the MDT 8000 again this afternoon. I hunted a different area that is not so heavily iron littered. This was my first chance to run Mixed mode for any length of time. It is much more dynamic & telling than straight Disc mode. I was able to call the big iron & small trash just fine. Dug some nice period targets including an unusual Flat button in very good condition. It is classed as a Patriotic/Political button in Albert's book; PC106A. A pretty neat find for around here. Still learning the MDT & playing with Ground balance & Salt balance. Today was 12kHz, Sens 6-7, TH -3, Disc +30. Not clean ground by any means but only 1-2 nails per sweep instead of a half dozen. This is sticky Red clay with plenty of natural Iron oxide, GB in the high 800's to mid 900's.
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