Lead Detector Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 11 minutes ago, Clay Diggins said: More than 90% of landowners in the U.S. do not have mineral rights on their property. If you asked them most would say "of course I own the minerals That is exactly what I have always heard to be true, and is exactly why I asked this question. Unfortunately trying to do something legit now days is getting so complicated, it's like trying to understand the tax code. I can't tell you how much I appreciate people like @Clay Digginshelping out a new addict like myself figure these things out. Thank you sir 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 42 minutes ago, Clay Diggins said: The land in question is in a very productive historical and current mining district and has been under mineral lease to a large mining company in the past. It's a purchased property - It's never been claimed and the original patent was not mineral related. Is it? I saw nothing about that in the post. Whatever, consider me properly chastised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Diggins Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 6 minutes ago, Steve Herschbach said: Is it? I saw nothing about that in the post. Whatever, consider me properly chastised. Lead shared the location with me privately. I checked the land status. There was no way you could know that. No need to feel chastised for what you don't know. I certainly didn't intend to chastise anyone. But that's really the point. If you don't know it's better to find out before you go. Lead did the right thing and I'm pretty sure he has more confidence now. Confident, informed prospectors are 32.8% more successful and at least 13.2% more attractive. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead Detector Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 3 minutes ago, Clay Diggins said: at least 13.2% more attractive Just walked passed a mirror, and right before it broke I realized I need to call B.S. on that. The rest of your claims seem pretty accurate though! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Diggins Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, Lead Detector said: Just walked passed a mirror, and right before it broke I realized I need to call B.S. on that. The rest of your claims seem pretty accurate though! ? Please don't PM me any pictures you took of yourself in the mirror! I get too many of those already from miners. ((((shudder)))) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead Detector Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 5 minutes ago, Clay Diggins said: Please don't PM me any pictures you took of yourself in the mirror! I get too many of those already from miners. ((((shudder)))) I haven't found a camera lense strong enough to handle a selfie yet, so your safe from that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mn90403 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 So, I read some of this to my wife and she had a question which I liked. If you go to this private land you have been given permission to hunt and you find with a metal detector a silver coin, a gold coin and a gold nugget, which ones can you legally keep? (Now I just thought that each of the states have different laws about lost property. The finder many not really be entitled to it! Just like a treasure ship.) How deep are surface rights vs subsurface? This kinda gets back to the lode vs placer claim rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead Detector Posted February 29 Author Share Posted February 29 7 minutes ago, mn90403 said: Now I just thought that each of the states have different laws about lost property. The finder many not really be entitled to it! Just like a treasure ship I just looked in my law books under lost property. section 1, paragraph 3, it clearly states "FINDERS KEEPERS, LOSER WEEPERS" . ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Diggins Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 hour ago, mn90403 said: So, I read some of this to my wife and she had a question which I liked. If you go to this private land you have been given permission to hunt and you find with a metal detector a silver coin, a gold coin and a gold nugget, which ones can you legally keep? (Now I just thought that each of the states have different laws about lost property. The finder many not really be entitled to it! Just like a treasure ship.) _________________________ How deep are surface rights vs subsurface? This kinda gets back to the lode vs placer claim rights. Different states do treat lost, stolen or abandoned property differently. In this particular situation the owners bought the property without any reservations (lock, stock and barrel). In other words they own anything found on the property even though it was originally lost or abandoned. Stolen property is a different story for obvious reasons. That makes it pretty simple. Anything on the property that wasn't stolen belongs to the owners. If they give you permission to search for and keep the stuff you find then it becomes your property. So you could keep the nugget and the coins unless they were known to be stolen. I know of no exceptions in any law to that principle. _______________________ Surface rights are the rights to beneficial use of the surface (agriculture, roads, buildings etc.) and for physical support for real estate. Surface rights don't include any minerals. Valid placer and lode claimants have exclusive ownership of ALL the locatable minerals found within their claim boundaries. The rights of placer and lode claimants to any and all minerals found on their claims are equal. A placer can not be located over a lode claim. A lode claim can only be located over a placer with the knowledge and permission of the placer owner and even then only if a lode deposit has been discovered within the boundaries of the placer claim. In that situation the new lode claim replaces the placer claim within the lode claim's boundaries. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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