drake Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Hi all, based in West Aus and new to this detector. Actually, back into detecting after a 25 year break. Moved back to Aus after a long time away, and keen to get digging.. By coincidence Im in the same area that the earliest European settlers, and convicts (Fremantle) lived in West Aus. So id love to find a part of the history , (which is only half as old as US, but i still think interesting.) Now..This detector is super sensitive and Very deep ability compared to my vintage Whites, to the point it annoys me on trashy ground.Im finding it hard to decipher if its actually a massive large target 2 feet underground, like a can or alloy car part or a coin. The id is same as many Aussie coins, the depth says the same, but it sure aint the same item! Im not very good with machine yet, but i noticed the depth meter isnt very accurate on large items and i dig a massive hole to find a deep buried can instead of a coin. Any advice from your experience would be much appreciated cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alluminati Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I agree, pinpoint and in particular one of the Gold modes you give you a decent indication to size and depth. Pinpoint may be quicker if it locks on first time, Gold mode always works even in heavy trash.| In pinpoint mode, a coin sized target will always be a small, tight pinpoint about 1" wide, while a can will generate a response across it's whole length. A small shallow target in gold mode is pretty obvious with it's quick sharp kinda of "whippit" sound, a small deep target will just be a quick somewhat quieter response without much inflection. A can should be obvious as well. ? Others have mentioned something about 50 tones making targets sound small, so it could be that one of the other tone modes offers more inflection, I don't know you'd have to experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alluminati Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Another note on the depth meter, it's probably like the discrimination in that it assumes a coin size target. It is understandable that properly working machine to misidentify a huge piece of metal, due to how the technology works. I often thought metal detectors should have a second discrimination range for checking big targets. If you think its deep iron, click a button to switch to "Large size disc" then check it again. This would have the effect of bringing the numbers back down and in line with the small targets, so that a can would have the same number as a tab when checked with the large size discrimination. This should also correct the depth meter to a degree on larger objects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drake Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 thanks all for quick response..looks like New Zealander asleep now, the Americans up and awake, and me - off to bed while reading the comments. I got the Equinox 600, because it was on special here for $790 ($570usd) so no gold option unfortunately. Not familiar with all sounds yet, Probably only spent about 30hrs with machine, so ill try advice with listening to pinpoint sounds and suggestions above thanks. It makes sense to trial at home on the lawn first a bit more. Ive been overwhelmed by the abundance of signals blaring at me in trashy areas, and some signals are ridiculously deep. Bottle Caps galore too. -anyone know why dont metal detectors incorporate Sonar frequency for depth reading, like echo sounders on boats that tell the depth accurately? Im sure theres an obvious answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinclair Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Check out this thread, too: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewcon4414 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 By chance are you talking most large targets being in the high conductor range? Do you have your tone freq set at 25? Try adjusting it down some it tend to enlarge the target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drake Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Hi Bro, Looks like the 600 doesn’t have that option, only the 800 can change pitch on all tones. Ill look at link above, that’ll help with my current issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff McClendon Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Hi Drake, You said you have the 600 right? For practice and to gain more confidence try Park 1 when hunting coins/jewelry with sensitivity around 10 to 15 and use the default 5 tone mode for a while. You can only change the frequency of the lowest tone and you can't change where the other tones occur on the scale. Those 5 tones are pretty good though. Big targets like cans and pipes will have a big detection area when pinpointing which will be way larger than coin size. Most coins will give a short abrupt response when detecting and especially pinpointing. If you get a really loud signal that indicates near the surface and you dig that far and find nothing, recheck and make sure it isn't a really big target. When coins are on or very near the surface they can sound more spread out and can be hard to pinpoint with the 600 and 800. A good handheld pinpointer will solve that issue. Coins may only read in one direction at depth +13CM, and have sketchy target ID numbers. Bottle (crown) caps will often give double or triple hits with jumpy numbers and will be slightly longer signal in duration than coins depending on their orientation in the ground. Screw caps really suck and can sound great unfortunately. The 600 will detect .5 gram ( at 5CM where I live) and larger gold nuggets quite well in Park 2 and Field 2 especially when using the semi all metal mode with the horseshoe button activated for even a bit more depth on low conductors. Keep the threshold barely audible in Park 2 and Field 2 for prospecting. You can try 2 tones also for prospecting and look for target ID numbers between -2 and 20. You can set your low tone 1 to end at -3 and dig anything above that up to 20 or so. You want to make sure that minus 2 is not disced out in the Park 2 and Field 2 presets. good luck Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drake Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 Thanks all, advice taken on board Cheers Jeff, tried it this morning on the beach and found more success, (ie- not wasting my time digging 2 feet down to find an old piece of chain.) the specifics you gave were handy, ive read them over a few times, also availed myself of a pin pointer too, You said “Coins may only read in one direction at depth +13CM, and have sketchy target ID numbers” However im thinking you meant cans right? Because if coins also give a sketchy id too, then ive got no hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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