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II. Treasure hunting with metal detectors and dowsing rods is exempted from the restrictions of this subdivision on the following lands owned or controlled by the state, its agencies, departments, commissions, and institutions, unless an historic resource on such land has been recorded and restrictions are posted: (a) Beaches; ( Athletic fields; © School grounds; (d) Perimeters of cemeteries; (e) Unpaved roads; (f) Within 25 feet of picnic tables and park pavilions; and (g) Currently used dumps. New Hampshire State park metal detector rules, note where it says DOWSING RODS, at least they acknowledge dowsing for treasure as legitimate !! -Tom

I better pass on the Rotapan as the govt types might consider that to be a mechanized form of gold recovery which they have about outlawed in New England. I already wasted $150 dollars on a Pyramid gold pan in an Indiana creek, The bottom center part cracked and the plug fell out as I was panning and half the riffles had cracks as well. A good idea but poor quality or else I got a lemon? May need to consider than Hogpan instead for rapid panning down to cons,then dump in a bucket,and pan down later vs a sluice. I found a local gold guide in Vermont .He has posted numerous videos on YouTube and seems to be a great gold finder and just pans for it. His price is $150 daily altho he is willing to take me to his best gold creeks. The local gold gurus in Phoenix area by comparison, want $300 a day for a day long gold nugget detecting trip. I could only swing 1-2 half days with any of these experts without breaking my vacation budget tho? BUT I will have to admit, every time I've gone to a new state to gold hunt, I've had very little success if only there a week or less on my own. So,maybe a day with a local expert might be a good thing? I've heard mixed reviews on the Rotapan,some love it,some hate it. I like my Hex pan personally, easier to dump the cons out of than a round pan ,easy to hold onto while panning, big and small riffles. Trying to get things figured out before I get on the road in 2 months vs last minute planning.. -Tom

thanks guys, maybe a trip to Cabelas or Gander Mountain might be a good thing here? That Gold Hog pan is a rather steep $300 but I just might go for it? How can I keep the sluice discharge from mucking up the water then? The stream is in the mountains so am assuming its got a fast flow which would be great for my Bazooka Prospector sluice with no need to classify.I modified mine to accept 4 adjustable legs for deeper water and glued in a small piece of ribbed rubber mat to verify there is gold in the gravels. I think we will stick to hiking in the creek bed but will still have to get thru 200 feet of woods down to the creek tho. Would one of them air horn things scare off a bear or moose?

I am planning a trip to New England this summer to prospect In the White Mountains National Forest in New Hampshire. They will allow gold panning AND up to a 3 foot long sluice box. Not sure on shovels altho trowels are ok. My question is on stream turbidity at the discharge end of my sluice? They want the water to be clear as defined in some rule they have between New Hampshire,Maine,Vermont. How does one not muck up the water while using a sluice box or dredge either,for that matter? Do they ticket Mother Nature when she creates havoc during floods? In New Hampshire ,shovels are illegal to dig with altho you may scoop gravels with a gold pan they say. But you can shell out $50 and get a permit for a sluice or dredge up to 4 inch. In Vermont, no motorized stuff period and permit required for sluice. They've pretty much outlawed dredging in Maine thanks to Trout Unlimited. Looking forward to some mountains and fast moving creeks with color. Ps,this is bear country. How do I store food ,garbage, without attracting Yogi? In my car, up a tree,? On the forest website,it mentions bear proof food containers,never heard of that? I will stick to canned food and no stove . Pss, who makes the best bear spray? How far do they shoot? When should you actually use the spray . I take it running from a bear is a bad thing? No guns please. If I hear noises in the woods or see a bear, do I throw rocks , do nothing, yell and scream, find that bear spray? -Tom

Some of the clues mention Browns cabin and its north of Santa Fe in the mountains in woods. Its still an awful big haystack !!!

Which brings up the question as to how he knew that this search party was so close to the right spot? Does he have a hidden camera close by or can see the site via telescope,motion sensor alerts, how?

I never was very good at solving riddles tho and there are 9 of them in the book. I map dowsed for the spot but even so its WORSE than a needle in a haystack...the book is written in a VERY Homey style, much to my liking tho, and with photos dating back 40-70 years. Should be a collectors item in time.

Treasure book arrived today......

I went to Amazon to order the book the guy wrote about this treasure .Clues in the book to its location. Funny thing is, Amazon wanted $109 for a copy of this book, seemed awful steep to me? In the reviewers comments tho,I found a secret !! One of the reviews said the book was originally soldby a small bookstore in New Mexico,an gave the name. So, I Googled it and sure enough, PLUS the price was ONLY $35.00 + shipping !!! Amazon did NOT get my business that time... -Tom, ps, the treasure is sposed to consist of gold coins, large gold nuggets, gems,and such and the author claims something like 35-50,000 people have searched for it so far...

Thanks Steve

I always wondered what the differences were between my MXT and the Pro MXT? Thanks. -Tom

Do you guys ever get the oriented meteorites? I acquired one from a guy who found it in Canyon Diablo area in Arizona that is bulbous and flares out to thin metal edges.Unfortunately, I seem to have misplaced it? I better look harder for it this weekend. -Tom

There is a 61 page thread on this LDM Pit Mine and Heat dig at this forum from several years ago: http://www.thelostdutchmangoldmine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1122

You mean you still have winter in Reno in late April Steve? And here I thought it was warm over there year around? Guess,I'll scratch that city off as a retirement home vs Chicagoland,,,,heck we had flurries here on Monday too....

Hello... The Gold Racer is in our testing stage. Once we finalize our tests, samples will be sent to a few testers in the USA, Australia and Africa. It will be released in the same form and shape of the Racer but in a different color and the stock coil will be the 10X5'' coil. That is all I can share at this moment. Thought I would share this tidbit with you guys...I wonder who the USA testers will be? -Tom

Snakes sure are a popular topic I see? And we haven't even touched on poisonous centipedes, black widow and brown recluse spiders, scorpions yet?

Maybe we can get Steve to buy one and try it out on gold veins or I might be willing to loan him mine? I don't have any gold veins to try it out on ? Hmm, I did find 30 pounds of galena/lead nuggets in SW Wisconsin on a relatives property .Maybe I should take it up there and see if it beeps out in the woods where the old diggings were from the 1800's? Maybe the old timers missed some veins? I think the farmers just dug for lead for extra spending money. Dunno how they knew where to dig? Maybe they just tossed a coin and dug a hole? We found an old powder spoon/tamper rod and old pick heads in the inverted cone shaped holes in limestone bedrock . This was where I learnt to listen for metallic underground nuggets and whisper signals since there are no gold patches in my area. My biggest piece of lead/galena was what looked like a hunk of dull yellow limestone bedrock sitting on the edge of one of the dig holes and the size of a large pancake and an inch thick. But my MXT screamed over it and it was VERY heavy.There was a thick seam of galena thru the middle of it and it weighed 8 pounds on the bathroom scale. Dunno how the old timers missed it?

I have a Pulsestar 2 detector from Kellyco altho I got mine used for a lot less money. It has 10 inch, 18 inch and a 1 square meter coil and is a pulse unit. A guy in Kansas, US, found a million dollar meteorite with a detector like this some years back.They had to use a backhoe tractor to remove it from 10 feet deep I heard, in a plowed farm field. He was using a coil rigged up to tow behind an atv and found it. He could cover a lot more ground this way vs on foot and would put markers down for any signals he got to go back and dig later.He also had agreements made up with the local farmers to do his meteorite hunting on their land for a percentage. It was a known meteorite fall from the 1800's and he was looking for BIG pieces down deep. I tried a Gemini 3 and the 2 box from Whites but sold both, too tricky and finicky to even tell when you have got a bonafide signal to dig,in my opinion. My Pulsestar has a control box you wear around your neck with a meter and crude discrimination for ferrous and nonferrous and you swing the 10 and 18 inch coils on a rod like most detectors.The 1 square meter coils requires a special harness or 2 people to make use if it. I never tried this detector for gold nugget hunting, wonder how it would do?

Az, Thats quite a link and the subsequent posts by this Scott fellow from the USFS in Phoenix. There are 31 pages to that thread and from 2006 to boot.I just got an email from a well known longtime LDM hunter who is now convinced the gold came from elsewhere than the Supers but better not say who, so feathers don't get ruffled. Hmm, my box of cookies and cream ice cream is about gone....dang it...

BD has some good points but I will try to have an open mind myself. I would say the Peraltas from Mexico were the expert miners and Jacob just got lucky is my humble theory...yummy...cookies and cream ice cream...on my third bowl....am looking forward to seeing Gollum and Bob Corbin and other Az treasure hunters in October. Bob was a longtime attorney general of Arizona and long time LDM hunter himself.He must be pushing 90 by now....nothin much better in life than settin around a campfire telling tall tales about gold and treasure and such....

Those are cool ring finding tricks with the 705. Can that be done with other detectors too, like my AT Pro or MXT? I know my Ace 250 has a notching ability, will have to experiment with it again. I would assume the 705 must have a notching ability as well if Gerry is knocking out targets at only 14 and 18? I had one of the previous generation Minelab VLFs, the 70 model I think it was? I only got rid of it cause it kept turning itself off occasionally when I laid it down to dig which was rather annoying and no sooner did I buy it than Minelab phased it out for the 700 series... -Tom

GPAA shows and rock and gem shows would be nice too, don't ferget a few in the eastern US please Thanks.

Goldbrick, I seem to recall Spot sold insurance policies that would pay you for rescue expenses twice a year, if needed? Does the Epirb company do this? An emergency rescue must cost a small fortune I should think and could break your bank account? -Tom

My coin dealer told me that religious jewelry items and rings from divorced couples are almost impossible to resell. Seems the divorced couples rings carry bad luck he told me. He just melts these down. And they cannot be sold as new no matter how clean they look.

Yes, we toured Goldfield, saw all the nasty rattlesnakes, spiders,and such in one part of town, in glass cages thank goodness... and the museum on the south side of the road..what was it....? Superstition Mountain History Museum or something? They had replicas of the tablets that were found years ago with the horse and heart and such. I 'll stay out of the mountains for now, just camping out with a bunch of treasure hunters sounds good. I found 4 potential gold hot spots within a 1/4 mile of each other.so far, seems they are just 1/4 mile outside the wilderness boundary ,thank goodness. Maybe we can go check em out when the time comes. -Tom