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  1. Interesting question about the Nel coils, I've not tried a Nel on my Simplex, I can't justify buying one for it as I don't use it much but I would guess Nel coils were made to original Simplex specifications so they'd probably just work without the firmware update, could be wrong of course. I would say it's best you just upgrade the firmware anyway, the other benefits of the newer firmware aside from just the new coil options make it worth while. Nokta even have their own update tutorial video showing you how to do it
  2. I know it was all about weight with the 6000 and if it had a heavier longer lasting battery it would be edging even closer to the GPX 5000 weight so at release they wanted it to be as light as possible, however do you think it would be possible over time that they would just release a long life battery for it as an optional extra, obviously it will be heavier but the marketing side of the weight advantage would have done it's work by then anyway and the many users will have told their friends how light it feels so having accessories that add weight wouldn't matter as much as the advantages they bring. My detecting days are usually 8 to 10 hours, normally longer in summer when the days are far longer and I would be a speaker user if I had one that worked so I'm at that point where 1 battery is not enough but a slightly bigger battery would be.
  3. That one is a bit caveman already with this sucker coming out
  4. I think there was probably a misunderstanding that its an older model Simplex and he needed the newer model to run the coils, the firmware is something you can upgrade yourself at home, you can turn your older firmware Simplex into the new one quite easily 🙂 This guy does a bit of a rundown on how to install the firmware from a Windows computer Any questions just ask, a number of people here could help you with the process if you get stuck. If you're really concerned you could take it back to where you bought it, it's likely the dealer will put the new firmware on for you in a few seconds.
  5. All northern hemisphere stuff is upside down, not to worry. Great buy for someone, a pretty cool old classic there. Seems a very good buy, if I lived in the US I'd be buying it.
  6. What would FMF mean? Full multi frequency? Certainly an XP Deus II though. I enhanced the image a bit to make it more readable. You can also see the two charging points on the coil below the red light.
  7. Oh boy! Things are getting exciting. This has clearly been in the works for a while.... they're good at keeping secrets. While I'm absolutely not a fan of a cordless coil I may have to jump in on this one.
  8. Detecting in heavy junk like that would drive me crazy. If you plan on doing that sort of detecting a lot the Nel Snake might be a worthy investment, you're one of the lucky ones with a modern detector capable of running one. It should do ever better than your 5" coil. I use it as a prospecting coil as it's sensitive to small gold but when reading their site it was never designed for that, it's their coil to sift through iron trash 🙂 It's cool you had the time and patience to run through the area with all three detectors to see the strong and weak points of them and their coils. http://nel-coils.com/index.php/en/production/nel-snake-9-5x3-5?id=1492 Their little sales blurb NEL Snake for Nokta & Makro Racer, Racer 2 The Snake Coil is designed to search on land heavily littered with iron and other debris. The shape of the coil helps to separate non-ferrous metal from iron. The coil is light and has excellent maneuverability, it is recommended for use on the beach, foundations of destroyed buildings, settlements littered with debris. The coil has good sensitivity to large, medium and especially small targets and combines good separation and capture area. It is recommended as an additional coil. On a special-order basis NEL Company can make this coil with cable lengths up to 3 meters. Coil is fully submersible, filled with epoxy resin and additionally has a black protective coating that is used for the protection of marine boats, and it makes it possible to use the coil without coil cover. The coil copes excellently with high and medium soil salinity. Thanks for doing the post though, while I've never had to face a wall of trash/iron the day will come sometime so I always take the time to read posts on people that do to ready myself.
  9. Thanks, I appreciate the clarification and sorry if it sounded like I was disagreeing with you, there is no doubt in my mind the GB2 is the best detector First Texas currently make, aside I guess from the Impulse AQ but I know nothing about it and intend to keep it that way after reading enough about it now 😜 The entire lineup is a bit long in the tooth and dated but it seems that it's going to stay that way. I guess I'm a bit disgruntled they made a Gold Bug 2.1 instead of a Gold Bug 3 in a model that's so long overdue for a new version. It'd be good if they could address it's shortcomings like it's poor recovery after hot rocks and having a ground grab along with auto tracking and other modern features we've all come to expect on a detector purchased in 2021 but then maybe the reason they haven't is because it wouldn't really change the fact that sales of the detector would still be slow, competition has the market now, it's hard to get it back. Up until their Multi Frequency machine all Nokta has done is what First Texas should have done, and could have done and they've made an entire business around it selling a significant number of detectors that are just feature packed detectors similar at heart to the FT detectors.
  10. Then watch piracy kick in at full force, dumps of the software upgrades all over the place people installing for free. They'd need some sort of license key situation that a key can only be used once and on one detector, they could have an algorithm that when you purchase the upgrade it uses the serial number of your machine to generate the upgrade code which then only works on your machine and is checked online. Sure there are always ways to get around all sorts of protection but I just don't see metal detectors as something that anyone serious would bother trying to break the protection, especially if it's very difficult with online verification and serial number matching for machines. It'd be best done like some software where features are unlocked by the license key you enter rather than requiring customers to firmware update machines and just have the license key "activate" to the detector online so it can't be used on another detector. It'd be funny to see key generators for metal detectors 😛 It all sounds good and would be nice and convenient for customers to be able to upgrade at home with a few simple clicks.
  11. I'd love to hear from someone who's bought this detector and can give a bit of a review on it, it seems like it'd do the job well. I wonder if it has bump sensitive coils.
  12. Buyers need to beware there are a number of shapes and sizes of fake Nugget Finder and Coiltek GPX coils on the market at the moment out of China. The Commander coils have had fakes sitting on Chinese Auction sites for some time however more recently a large range of both Coiltek and Nugget Finder coils have become commonplace among sellers, from 8" to 25" they have them all. They've always had a few but lately the number of coils available has really skyrocketed. The Commanders have also the range of fakes available so really buying many second hand GPX coils now comes with a higher risk of fakes. People buying these coils from China likely are aware they're fake, if not they really should be, it's the people who buy them second hand off someone who bought one from China that I feel sorry for as they're the ones thinking they're getting a genuine coil, and paying the price for it too. If you're buying a second hand coil from someone, really try and get the purchase receipt to see it's genuine from a real dealer. They're not being as bold with the advertising with the NF not putting the label on the photos but with the Coiltek they are, the likelihood is the Nugget Finder do have the label on them when you buy them or buyers that request them branded will get them that way, it's not like the Nugget Finder stickers would be a challenge for them to duplicate. This poses quite an issue for those that buy second hand coils too, as you'll never know if you're getting a fake that someones bought from a Chinese auction site, found it to be terrible in performance and offloading it second hand for more than they paid for it when people are thinking it's a genuine coil so paying the normal second hand market price for it. This stuff really annoys me so I like to make people aware of it when I stumble across it. Some photos from the auction site You'll note 50 orders of that coil from that seller, and all positive reviews, I'm not sure how that happens and I often question if the Auction site ratings are faked. See the stock levels, 950 pieces available, from just one seller of the many with them. Note all the different coils he's selling in the colour selection field, the bright blue ones are 8" Commanders, weirdly coloured, but other sellers have them in the standard colours. Also, to show what they're selling is what you get some of the buyers had put photos of their coil in their review, these are genuine reviews. Note the guys fake GPX detector box in the background 🙂 A fake NF coil seller, he has various models too. This big sucker is a 25" mono. They've even got stock of fake SDC coils. And the VLF aftermarket manufacturers are also becoming targets, note below a fake Cors Strike coil (Nel Tornado) It's hard to know about the review system as the fake Nel doesn't have good reviews and only 2.5 star rating unlike the fake Coiltek with 5 star and 31 positive reviews. So everyone needs to be very careful, not only buying second hand detectors which have many copies available especially First Texas, Whites and Minelab models but also when buying second hand coils, and if someone out there thinks maybe these coils work well, it's very unlikely, and you can bet they're not the quality of the originals too.
  13. I agree, mines still in the original bag, I doubt I'd be able to sell it here with such a limited market, I don't even know where it is now, perhaps lost forever but no great loss. It should be an optional extra, but perhaps not at the mental price they charge for it, I don't know how they can justify such pricing.
  14. Did it mention the Impulse Gold? perhaps that is a 2023+ release?
  15. And look what we have here!!!! The 10x6" coil for the GPX 6000. I'll put a video of it in action up in a few days, hopefully with a gold find on it from the manufacturers. I'm told It finds targets the standard 11" coil misses.
  16. I would buy a 14x8" for my 24k but my last experience of getting a coil from the US for my 24k didn't go too well for me 😞 I hope Garrett makes a bigger coil for it too.
  17. Malaysia has had a really hard time with Covid, it's had long strict lockdowns throughout the time the GPX was being made, I can guess the workers at the factory had more to worry about than if some rich person in another country gets a detector that works perfectly, they likely wouldn't even know whatever lack of quality control they were doing would cause instability or whatever problem a random detector gets. Their Covid rules would have had social distancing requirements meaning less workers on the factory floor and I guess many other reasons why quality control has fallen off a cliff. They're out of lockdown now and just accepting the virus is there so other than the ramifications of that I guess quality control and detector build quality will improve again. I wish them the best and hope things improve for them, it's been a pretty hard hit country. In hindsight Minelab are probably thinking they may have been better to delay the release, especially when it's been marred with shortages and disgruntled would be customers anyway. A little statistic and I can guess which one the factory floor workers for Minelab would be getting... Malaysia income rates (2021) AVERAGE SALARY / YEAR 95,358 MYR $23,668 USD MOST TYPICAL SALARY / YEAR 28,202 MYR $7,000 USD It looks like the GPX 4500 has had a few components with re-flowed solder seeing the paint was undisturbed on them other than browned from heat, perhaps some were showing signs of dry solder joints or their was inside technician knowledge of which ones were problematic. It doesn't look like any were replaced or you'd see with the paint. The hot glue falling off the capacitors is just unlucky but happens, its just there to dampen vibration and movement and unlikely to cause issues in the short term if at all. My 4500 is one of the early Aussie ones and it had the mylar ribbon cable fail on me too which I replaced myself and seems it was the common fault with them. It can cause a whole range of problems even crackly audio. It looks like it was the case with the one Steve had in the pictures above, you can see the technician likely replaced the ribbon cable which requires a fair bit of soldering and where the solder splash came from, perhaps the tech did a few cold solder joints too and the solder fell off causing the little rattling bits of solder. You'd normally pull the board out to solder it so I don't know how solder splash would end up in the box otherwise so very careless of them not to shake it down afterwards to ensure no solder slash is hanging around, a bit weird. The ribbon cables with the bends and flex required to fit them into the housing were sometimes getting cracks internally causing poor connection which is why they can cause so many different issues, they're the arteries of the detector going across to everything. I put some hot glue on my cable once fitted to stiffen it up in the areas where it bends especially near the connections to prevent it flexing around in there during use but I'd say they used an improved version of the cable once they found the problem and I used a GPX 5000 cable for the repair. The early 4500's sometimes had a bit of shielding issues too with the way the housing was painted where paint flowed over the screw holes where the shield connects and easy to fix by scraping off some paint which quietened mine down after doing that. I really like my 4500, they're like the older cars, easier to fix than these fang dangled new detectors 🙂 We had the same ideas Chet, you were just faster at typing, good idea on bridging the wires on the ribbon rather than replacing the ribbon as ML refuse to sell them to end users to fix themselves 🙂 I had to get one from China.
  18. That is the problem, I wouldn't, if it's not the best I wouldn't waste my time swinging it even if it was free. I have pristine coils in my collection because I don't want to use them, the 14x9" would likely join that group.
  19. Thanks for the insight Geotech, your blunt honesty is always appreciated. Sad to hear a lot of that, but not a surprise as most of it was clear as glass. It seems they really have no desire to make anything other than entry level gear using their current technology, perhaps that's where the money is, it likely is especially if they have little chance of competing with the other brands anyway. They've had a good run, every dog has it's day. The GB3 you speak of with auto tracking and wireless would have been a reasonable seller I would think, sure probably not a big money maker for them as people would just think I've lived with the original for 20 years and got used to the manual GB I'm not paying for a new one to get auto tracking and wireless which I can just add on a little $20 Bluetooth transmitter to get. 🙂 They would likely sell more of them than they will the current GB2 especially to new buyers that haven't had one before with it being more modern it would be more appealing. I know I would have wanted one so that's one sale at least 🙂 I guess all that FT has left for me is the Impulse Gold, I'll wait and see how that turns out, if it ever does. As for this comment from Bohemia Miner..... I also assume you mean Gold VLF is best as if it's up against the other detectors it's a LONG LONG way from the best. A GB3 would be great. The only reason to continue the GB2 is customer loyalty. Ask 10 old time prospectors which Gold detector is the best and at least 80% of them will reply, "Fisher Gold Bug 2"! Those same people aren't gong to be rushing out to buy a GB2, they have one.... If it dies they might buy another... possibly second hand, or get it repaired if possible. I'm not an old time prospector but I don't find the GB2 to be the best, most sensitive to tiny gold? possibly but there is very little in it and for most other reasons I'd rather use something else. I like it's little coil and how it's not bump sensitive at all, but some of the competitors have non-bump sensitive very sensitive coils too on detectors that handle ground better but for me the biggest flaw with the GB2 is it sucks around hot rocks, absolutely sucks. It's too busy making it's boing noise to worry about sounding off on the nugget next to the hot rock, it's about as slow as an old model T Ford, similar vintage too 🙂 vs other detectors that are like Mustangs and quickly recover from the hot rock and let you find the gold. I don't have hot soil but I have hot rocks, and lots of them 🙂 Out of those 10 old time prospectors that 80% think the GB2 is best I would guess not many of them use the GB2 as their primary VLF anymore, for me it's a specialty VLF for certain tasks and other than that, it's my antique collectable.
  20. A newer faster processor would likely use less power not more. The faster processors were getting the more heat they were generating so it became vital for processor developers to lower the power draw of CPU's to try keep them cooler though new technology, CPU speeds stopped increasing at dramatic rates and size and heat became a focus for some time. Now some ARM CPU's run without a heatsink that have the clock speeds of older CPU's that needed a massive copper heatsink. I wish it was as simple as banging in faster processors, surely it can't be or they would have done it. Although the code for the software is likely written based on the processor in the detector so would need ported over or rewritten/highly modified. Employees move on, so in the case of some detectors like the older Fishers are the people who wrote the code even there? are they capable of modifying the code to modernize the detector? Maybe they didn't keep up with the times themselves. The GPZ seems like it could desperately use a faster processor right from new, you'd think they'd be able to get a higher clock speed CPU for it now without a dramatic code adjustment, it's menu system really lags while navigating, especially if the GPS is turned on putting further load on the processor. I don't think we give the engineers enough credit though as we armchair engineers think they can just buy a faster processor for $20 and make a whole new better detector by just switching the part order. Although ideal it's unrealistic, it has crossed my mind many times why they don't take advantage of newer processing technology in older detectors though.
  21. So then they expect you to sacrifice depth by using their 14x9" coil to get some weight to help in the water. When the 11" stock coil is deeper why not just use that, does the extra weight give more benefit than the extra depth the 11" will give you? I'm no regular beach hunter but the targets I was finding were deep, and I went with a PI as an experiment and was finding coins all over the place my Equinox missed so I'd want as much depth as possible at the beach. I'm struggling to find out a reason for me to buy this 14x9" coil, the deal I can get it for is too good to miss really but I just can't justify it and it's annoying me 😉 I almost sent the message yesterday saying I'd buy it, I had trouble stopping myself! I would prefer the 15" but I can't find anyone saying it's deeper than the standard coils. The problem with that is I had the same problem on my T2, I bought the 15" coil for depth and it was no deeper than my Nel Tornado. Is there a point where size no longer matters on VLF's?
  22. Well, by now the jury should be out on these coils.... I have the 10x5" and find it beneficial, while the Minelab 6" has the depth advantage on tiny gold it's only at the very center of the 6" coil where as the 10x5" has the hot nose so getting gold in areas with a lot of obstacles gives the 10x5" the edge as you can't get the center of the 6" coil up against a rock to get the gold right next to it where as those nose of the 10x5" can get it. I've not bothered using it in a coin hunting situation as I don't hunt junky ground so it'd be of no benefit for me when all I desire is maximum depth. As for the other two sizes I'm not so sure, I know a guy with the 14x9" Coiltek and he said it's got less depth than the 11" stock coil which I guess you'd expect, and it's heavier than the 15x12" ML coil by a significant amount. I'm struggling to see where this coil would provide a benefit? Maybe in the water the weight wouldn't be an issue but still, what benefit would it provide over the Minelab coils? He's now got it for sale for a significant reduction on the price he paid new for it... I so far can't justify buying it. The 15" Coiltek has a little more appeal to me as I want maximum depth but reading around I've not found people claiming it to be a depth demon, I've only read it's comparable to the 15x12" Minelab coil. Has anyone got it that actually finds it deeper? Coiltek claim demand for these coils is massive, and they can't keep up saying orders for them are months on backorder. To me this seems unrealistic other than for the 10x5" coil but it seems more like they just can't produce a large number of coils being a smaller sort of business and when you make coils for the worlds most popular VLF detector you have to expect sales numbers would exceed their production capacity. Sure the 10x5" is popular, but the others I can barely find anyone using, certainly no one is posting about their experiences with them other than promotional people Coiltek are using for marketing. So I'm chasing feedback from anyone that owns the 14x9" or 15", are they worth it? Should I pick up the cheap 14x9" my friend doesn't want, should I just buy the 15"? The coils are massively overpriced in NZ with the 15" Nox coil costing about half the price of a new Nox 600 and costing over $100 more than the 15x12" ML coil for the 15" Coiltek so it's hard to justify their high pricing.
  23. You're only as good as the ground around you is to hunt, so for me size and success can't matter. I just take pleasure in hunting in such a nice part of the world where I never can get sick of the ever changing scenery. The drive to the locations, exploring the areas and enjoying the days are all part of the experience, I also love learning my detectors and the technology behind them, it amazes me what they're capable of doing. A good day for me around here. But I get to hang out in some nice places And drive past even nicer. So, I'm happy with my limited success. It's good training for when I go for a prospecting holiday to somewhere with larger size gold 🙂
  24. Mono will go deeper, but has no iron rejection and will be more troubled with EMI especially if in an urban area. In low mineralisation you'll have the benefit of being able to crank the settings right up. If in very high mineralisation or hot rocks the DD may work better than a mono but in mild soils mono all the way for depth.
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