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Things have been very quiet at Tesoro the last few years. There was a lot of talk about a new model, the Cazador, that finally just faded away. We did finally see the Tesoro Mojave introduction, and while it is a great little detector certainly not anything cutting edge. Delays are nothing new in the industry and it is certainly possible the Cazador will still appear. The lack of communication however leaves one feeling like Tesoro is just coasting along at this point. It did not help that Tesoro apparently declined to keep sponsoring the Tesoro Findmall Forum, and so it was renamed the Beep & Dig Detecting Forum. That being the case I decided when I revamped the forums recently that perhaps a new Tesoro Forum was in order for those who felt abandoned elsewhere. And so with that, welcome to the new Tesoro Forum at DetectorProspector.com! Official Tesoro Company Website Tesoro 2013 Catalog Tesoro Metal Detector Information Magazine

My detector failed a couple of weeks ago. I posted it off Monday last week and got it back Thursday this week. Took it out for a quick spin yesterday and all working fine. Thanks Minelab

To all of you who followed my recent adventure to OZ you remember i did not have my control box when i arrived!!!! In fact, I didn't have any of my bags...they were still sitting in LAX. After Norvic and I went to pick them up in Cairns a week later I thought everything was peachy.. But alas, when Norvic and I were getting geared up to make a run to the goldfields...I couldn't find my 7000 control box anywhere--- (to make a long story short-I put this in chronological order) -Condor and i had our 7000's stolen in Yuma January 2017 I found a used one and bought it--- March Condor couldn't find a new or used one so i sent him mine to use while i was working at the VA in Dallas_(i didnt need it) Condor alerts me it is having a dropped pixel issue and Jaime Minelab USA says to send it in-----May 2017 Condor sends it in the whole rear end of the machine control box control brain and audio plug port Jaime is to send it back to me in Dallas I have a dedicated suitcase set up in my living room to place gear going to OZ with me i receive the rest of the detector back from Condor after he receives his brand new 7000 and i stuff it in the suitcase Jaime sends me my control screen--(now since Condor sent in in to ML i didnt realize when i got it i was still missing the control brain box and I had no reason to put the 7000 together because i was breaking it all down for shipping anyway) in the suitcase it goes! I get to OZ , June 3rd and my bags get there a week later!! grrrr.... Norvic and I decide to go for our first hunt and Volia!!!! I dont have a control box!!! What the heck--- I was in shock! I start contacting the airlines , but there is nothing they can do at this time... I contact Sara, Daryl, and ALL the staff there at Minelab AU-- they went to work immedately i got the news after Norvic and I got back from the bush that Minelab Au had decided to ship me out a loaner box for free! No deposit, not shipping, nothing---!!!! This was great news to me because i only found one nugget with his 2300 while it seemed like Norvic was finding a nugget every second or two with his ZED! I was frustrated to say the least.... my dream trip and no 7000...arggggh.. Norvic can verify how happy i was when i got the news on email right after we got out of the bush!!!! I was ecstatic!!! So now i continue detecting here and there around OZ with the borrowed brain (Lord knows i need a new one too---lol)--July-Aug 1 When i get back to the States Condor and i get to talking and he tells me that he didn't feel comfortable separating the parts to ship to Minelab USA when he sent in the control control screen so he just sent it all together... TA DA a moment of enlightenment...now we know for sure where the box went--- not stolen in the customs office, not left in my camper by mistake, it was at ML USA Thank you Condor for remembering things that i cant...lol We sent it in to ML USA at the worst possible time because they were packing stuff up to move to their new warehouse--and it simply got misplaced Jamie wrote me today and said they still haven't found it and she wondered if it would be OK to ship me a new one??? Really???? I was stunned again by Minelab !!! USA this time... I should receive my new control brain box soon I am blessed! A BIG thank you to MInelab, both Australia and USA-- you are truly the best company I have ever dealt with... Yes, i bought a Monster, and Yes, i will buy an Equinox!!!!

From https://www.whiteselectronics.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/2017_5.pdf, page 3.... "NEW MACHINE ON THE HORIZON? Rumors have been swirling about what machine White’s will release next. Some speculate that it could be a 12kHz “MX Maxxx” sold with a $200 higher price tag. Others imagine White’s going back to its roots, releasing an old-school BFO machine that weighs 8 lbs and runs on 4 C-cell batteries. Inside sources seem to point to some kind of mid-priced, high-performance detector aimed at customers who need a deep-seeking machine at an affordable price point. Only time will tell."

Did anybody but mine lab show up at detectival? Would like to hear some about them.

The boys at the MD Hunter Blog, a Russian based website, are reporting three new Minelab Go-Find models. The Go-Find 22, Go-Find 44, and Go-Find 66 Don't pay attention to the photo there - these guys make up their own when they have nothing else to work with. Some of their posts really are just entirely made up stuff, so you have to be cautious. Then I saw this photo from Minelab's Facebook Page taken at Detectival... Clearly a lineup of Minelab demo units. Several Equinox models, a couple CTX, even a Gold Monster. On the far right there are three Go-Find detectors. Two might be mistaken for the old Go-Find models, but not the third one. It is gray in color and looks to be a more "adult size" Go-Find. Yet no commentary from anyone who was there that I can find anywhere so far. Weird. Update 12/29/17 - Go-Find 66 Officially Released

Although this post has some relevance to the threads of excitement regarding the just announced Minelab Equinox (wonder what Chevy thinks about that name...), it really isn't directly on topic so I started a new thread instead. You'll see the relevance in my final comments, after the 'facts'. Just back from Colorado and I mentioned in another thread that part of my trip was attending two events by Denver's Eureka Treasure Hunters Club (http://www.eurekathc.org/): The monthly (2nd Friday evening) club meeting and the annual Coinhuna -- free(!) hunt for members only. I slid through a loophole(?) to get to participate in the latter. There were 50-60 attendees of the club meeting and a similar number for the hunt, and most were overlap = same people. Being a detector zealot (thanks at least in part to some posters here who will remain anonymous), I spent some time walking around prior to the hunt to see what detectors people were using. I was surprised at the results of this informal survey, but maybe you won't be. NOTE: I did not do a scientific tally, so the numbers aren't 100% accurate, but they aren't that far off. I do know detector brands, although models (especially older ones) not so much. Here is my view and recollection. I'm assuming ~60 detectors were viewed (some brought more than one): White's (mostly TRX, IDX, DFX) -- 35. Garrett (AT Pro, Ace [various], AT Max, AT gold, older green models whose names I didn't catch/recognize) -- 15. First Texas (F75, T2, Gold Bug Pro -- that was me!) -- 4. Tesoro (Lobo Super Track, other I didn't recognize) -- 2. XP (Deus) -- 2. Minelab, Nokta, Makro, Bounty Hunter -- 0! Ok, what's up with this? First off, it was a competition hunt. But I only saw 9 of the long skinny rectangular coils, 8 White's Bigfeet and one Tesoro cleansweep. That still leaves a whopping 26 White's detectors with tyical general use coils. While in the Denver area I also went by Gold-N-Detectors (in Golden, catch the play on letters?). Now we may be getting somewhere. They have pretty much all of White's current models on display along with several Garretts and about four Tesoros. The only FTP I saw was a Teknetix T2 black. Didn't notice any other brands. They sell detectors at full retail with, AFAIK, no negotiating. So I'm sure not everyone at the club has bought their detectors at that outlet. However, there is a strong influence, and if you see one you like at the store you can just go online and get a discount. There is also a 'mentoring' effect. For example, a person shows up at the club meeting wanting to get into the hobby and is influenced by what detector to get based upon the possessions of the experienced club members. Does country loyalty also play a part? I think it does; just read some comments you see here occasionally. But that's not the whole story. Why only 4 First Texas detectors in the lot? Last I looked Los Banos and El Paso are still on this side of the wall. (oops, might get in trouble for that comment...) There are quite a few things that make the detectorprospector.com site unique compared to (or at least quite different from) other sites: 1) international participation; 2) dominated by gold prospectors; 3) more sophisticated(?) when it comes to understanding and using detectors; 4) more oriented towards the professional end of the spectrum than the hobby/weekender other extreme. Most if not all of these give Minelab (and probably Nokta/Makro) a bigger audience/following. Even if the Equinox is the best thing since sliced bread (and it might be; I'm not taking sides), I don't think it's going to put the other guys out of business. In fact, I doubt it's going to knock Garrett off the back cover of just about every treasure hunting magazine (and that includes ICMJ). There are more things that go into market share than the performance of the product, although it certainly is a big factor.

White's Electronics just started their fall "Garage Sale" with a number of what I think are some incredible deals. As an ex-dealer I should know! The main one that caught my eye is the White's GMT package, new with full warranty, for less than normal dealer cost. White's GMT Reg $799.95 6" Concentric Coil Reg $149.95 Digging Tool Reg $39.95 Backpack Reg $99.95 Total Full Price $1089.80 On Sale for $450 TOO LATE, SOLD OUT! I cannot see how anybody with even a thought of getting a GMT can get a better deal than this! If you check the Garage Sale link above you will also see the White's V3i at about 1/3 off plus other great deals.

http://theleadsouthaustralia.com.au/mining-resources/minelab-continues-to-lead-way-in-search-for-gold/ Note the comment about what is coming out later this year.

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White's Electronics just started their fall "Garage Sale" with a number of what I think are some incredible deals. As an ex-dealer I should know! The one people here may want to check out is the V3i packages at more than 1/3 off full list price. This is pretty close to dealer cost! If you check the Garage Sale link above you will also see the White's GMT at about 1/2 off plus other great deals.

Discover Magazine Some of you might remember a publication called "Discover" that White's Electronics used to publish. It featured customer finds, treasure stories, and all-around good info on metal detecting. Back in the 90's we stopped making it, much to the disappointment of some of our long-time customers. Well... we realized missed it too! So we're proud to announce the re-introduction of Discover magazine. As a part of our mailing list you have exclusive access to a free digital copy, which you can read online, print out, and share as you see fit. Get your free copy here. We'll try and send one out every 2 months. Thanks for supporting an American brand, and know that we will always have your back as a valued customer. This publication is just one small thing we can do to show our appreciation! Discover Magazine September/October 2017 Discover Magazine July/August 2017 Discover Magazine May/June 2017 Discover Magazine March/April 2017 Discover Magazine January/February 2017 Sincerely, White's Electronics

Got a email asking to enter the contest. I don't have a Coiltek coil,but thought I would pass on the info. http://www.coiltek.com.au/more/latest-discoveries-competition/

On Tuesday, August 29, 2017, History Seekers welcomes guest Thomas Boykin, project manager, of White's Electronics, Inc. We will be discussing what detectorist want to see in the next generation of metal detectors. This is a great opportunity for loyal listeners from all experience levels to have input. Get your questions and suggestions ready, due to call volume time will be limited to approximately 30-40 seconds. Tune in live on Agust 29 at 9:00 PM Eastern / 8:00 PM Central directly from our web page under the media section (historyseekers.net) OR directly via www.spreaker.com/historyseekers How to win the White’s MX SportBe sure to like the History Seekers and White's Electronics, Inc. Facebook page to stay up to date on this show! Thomas Boykin from White’s Electronics will be on the show Tuesday, August 29, 2017 to talk about your suggestions as well as to give away an MX SPORT! Here is how to enter to win: 1. Go over to the Whites web page and request a free catalog. Be SURE to enter a valid email (must be the same email used to submit step 2). Request here: www.whiteselectronics.com/request-catalog 2. Submit your suggestion for features/abilities that you would like to see on your next detector. You must submit a brief suggestion to info@historyseekers.net . You must also include your correct shipping name/address/telephone number (contact info in case you win) 3. You can make multiple suggestions but only ONE entry is counted for the drawing. 4. All entries must be received at least 3 hours prior to the start of the History Seekers Show (9:00 PM EST) to be entered in the contest. We will be talking about suggestions made and taking callers to discuss your thoughts on them on air. A winner will be announced by White’s at the end of the History Seekers show. If the announced winner did not properly qualify a runner up will be chosen later at the discretion of White’s Electronics. In the event that the show must be rescheduled for any reason, the contest would be rescheduled and announced later. This contest is not connected with Facebook. It is free to enter with no purchase necessary and void where prohibited. If you would always like to see these types of contests be sure to click on History Seekers and Whites Facebook page then click the follow and select see first. This will ensure that you always get notified of events on both pages.

https://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=251368 My condolences to his friends and family.

Dear Valued Members, This is to inform you that my team and I will be attending the Detectival Rally in the UK between September 15 - 17. We are inviting all who are planning to attend the event to visit us in the main marquee to meet the team and to learn more about our company and products. THANK YOU! Dilek Gonulay Nokta & Makro Detectors

Received a coupon for $100 worth of accessories from White's. Never had this happen is this rare or random? Either way, I like it.................

Hi Everyone just wondering if there has been any information leaked out about the new Minelab detector/ detectors that are due for release on September 16. Very interested to see what it's going to be! And how much of a game changer it's going to be. love to hear any information or theories. Cheers

Long time no post! Been busy with my new responsibilities at White's. Just wanted to let you know that White's is donating 10% of all factory internet sales from 08-28-17 to 9-04-17 (through whiteselectronics.com) to the Red Cross to help them with the current crisis in Texas. I'm very surprised the flooding is so underreported in the news - few people realize how bad things are down in Houston right now. I guess politics is a bigger sales tool for some of the networks. Anyways, even if you don't need anything detecting-related please donate blood or help the Red Cross in their efforts - https://www.redcross.org/donate/hurricane-harvey?campname=Harvey&campmedium=aspot Steve if this is not kosher I apologize. I have some friends down there and just wanted to spread the word. They need all the help they can get right now.

Ok Steve you really know something about new machines at 2017 ;) I was hear about new AT PRO 2 from Garrett but what more?

Bought a GM 2 a couple of weeks ago. $120. Nice-looking unit, but had a tough time getting it ground balanced. Finally figured out the Sensitivity (gain) pot was shot. Every time I touched it I got loud howls from the machine. The pot is soldered into the circuit board, so I needed that specific pot. Couldn't find one on the 'net, so called Whites, with the intention of buying one. tech said...no problem I'll put one in the mail. No charge! So I got it yesterday, and took things apart last night and got the new one installed. Took about 1 1/2 hours. had a tough time getting the old one out (5 pins). Then had to drill out the holes with a #59 drill to allow the new one to go in. The rest was easy. Now I've got a nice backup unit for the GMT, and for a buddy to use when I'm out and about. Whites never ceases to amaze me with their service. Jim

Twenty-three pages packed full of photos of items found by Garrett users from all over the world. Download the color 15MB pdf here

Jerry Keene of Keene Engineering has passed away. The ICMJ got a note from the family: Dear Friends, Family and Valued Customers. It is with deep regret and sorrow, that we inform you that Jerry Keene has passed away due to congestive heart failure. On Friday morning, July 14th. He was preparing for work as usual when he experience a shortness of breath and all of a sudden, had a heart attack. His wife, and daughter tried to revive him but, he was already peacefully gone. He did not suffer and he did not have pain. Jerry was at home doing his normal routine and passed the best way possible. Jerry Keene was a great man, husband and father. He enriched every person he touched and was very well respected by all. Jerry worked with his two sons Mark and Patrick every day and adored being part of their lives. Being with them each day at the company was one of his greatest joys in life. Jerry Keene was a wonderful man and touched everybody with his kindness. His last days, he was feeling great and was excited about building a new home to make his life easier for him and his wife, Che’ and daughter, Mell, who took great care of him. It goes without saying that he will be deeply missed by his entire family, vast number of beloved friends, as will the thousands he had touched throughout his life. He is and will always be, “The great innovator of the Modern Day Gold Rush”. We will all miss you very much. The Keene Family

"PITTSBURGH — An Australian company is suing French company XP Metal Detectors and Massachusetts-based Detector Electronics Corp., citing alleged patent infringement. Minelab Electronics PTY LTD filed a complaint on Oct. 19 in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Pennsylvania against the defendants, alleging that they infringed on the plaintiff's patent through their distribution of a metal detector." Details at http://pennrecord.com/stories/511025018-minelab-electronics-alleges-patent-infringement Case Docket https://dockets.justia.com/docket/pennsylvania/pawdce/2:2016cv01594/233955 and details https://www.unitedstatescourts.org/federal/pawd/233955/

First Texas (Bounty Hunter, Fisher, Teknetics) has filed suit in California Central District Court against Deteknix for copyright infringement. The basic claim from here 20. First Texas engineers have investigated the Deteknix Quest and the software contained thereon. Based on their investigation, and on information and belief, the Deteknix Quest contains software that is substantially similar to, and copies copyrightable aspects of, the T2 Software both in whole and in part. 21. On information and belief, Deteknix accessed First Texas’s T2 Software and copied it off a commercial T2 product. On information and belief, Deteknix used nitric acid and/or certain other techniques to defeat First Texas’s access protection and copy the T2 Software off a commercial T2 product. This is of course a court filing, not a statement of fact - it is up to the court to decide and issue a ruling. Case progress at https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/19024985/First_Texas_Products,_LLC,_et_al_v_Deteknix,_Inc_et_al