Jeff McClendon Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 With his Equinox 800, phrunt could reject some of the hot/cold rock numerical target ID numbers if they aren't in the middle of the small gold range. Unfortunately, in this case they seem to be since the hot rocks he mentioned are hitting around 0, 1 and 2. Maybe some kind of frequency shift or ground balance offset would help which is way beyond my pay grade. I was wondering if phrunt could try a different search mode in the water like Park1 or Park 2 instead of the gold modes with the 6" coil. They might be a little less sensitive to moving water than the gold modes????????? Like Rick N. MI I have used my GM 24K coil submerged in shallow creek water with absolutely no change in the detecting quality. It goes through water with zero effect as if it was still in air. I do get some major coil knock if I don't get the settings right for one location (the one with the really bad black sand/pebbles). I am still working on settings for that place. I brought home a bag of dirt from one really bad spot. The GM 24K will overload at sensitivity 3, VSAT Max, whether I have it in iron cancel mode or not!!!! Jeff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dances With Doves Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Thanks Rick for the reply. I have one finger lake that when the water is low you can go about 800 feet from shore.The boats during the summer have to be beyond the 500 foot markers. There are bottlecaps galore so the Iron audio on the At gold was a big help. Most of the rings were easy hits so this machine saved you time by not being stopped that much by the caps. It would hit gold rings like a pitbull on a meatball.In close is a clean small swim area and a good spot for the gmx since it gets hit hard and only has small gold mostly.The nox with the new f2 should help with the caps so it won't slow me down like last year out past the 500 foot mark.Can you tell a bottlecap on the Gmx from a good target with the 6inch coil?Good luck hunting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dances With Doves Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 9 hours ago, phrunt said: I'm like a duck out of water when I encounter any difficult ground, I have no idea what to do, the GM takes care of it for me, On the Nox I tried to ground balance over the bedrock and it didn't resolve the problem. The problem is the bedrock often comes up the same numbers as small gold, and I'm looking for small gold. Big sections of it can be 1/2 on the VDI's. It's really weird and only in this creek do I have this problem. The GM works well there though, (I had a brain fart typing this saying the GM gets -7 -8 -9 on the bedrock I meant to say it slams negative on the probability meter right at the far negative end) so it does appear to be ground balance related. Maybe someone more familiar with bad ground on the Nox could resolve it, my solution is to use another detector so I need either a water proof GM (come on ML) or I need to try other things like the GMX, and I like trying new things ? JW's GB2 works fine in the creek but I don't want such an old style detector and I want waterproof for the waterfalls which I'm sure will hold the most gold. Did you try 20 and 40 kz in the gold modes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. MI Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 The Gmx will hit a bottle cap nice. So you would be digging bottle caps. Bottle caps are tough for most detectors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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