Guest calabash digger Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 What they said above...It is a boat anchor.I bought a mint one like new for a 1000.00 to try relic hunting with it a few years back.... WEIGHT....killed my neck and shoulders. Great audio etc ...bad ergonomics design...I would not take it to hunt with one if someone gave to me. I do have a question...How much better is the CTX and ETRAC on deep silver than the Equinox? I have not see a silver in my garden that those two will hit and the Equinox cant. I get the ID part but how many 11 inch silver dimes does one find in his or her career? BTW I got a 11 inch silver seated being dug on tape with my Equinox....Did I know it was a silver coin before I dug it?? NO WAY.... I would like to see a couple live digs with the ETRAC and CTX on a 11 inch seated dime where the operator calls it before he or she digs it... To my knowledge there is no videos like that.... How much better is the question?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB_Amateur Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Dances With Doves said: If I had to guess and Minelab brings out a new Multi IQ variant that is superior to the Nox by a wide margin... (emphasis mine) Is that even possible? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strick Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 I'm on my second CTX I sold the first one for $500 less then I paid for it and that machine had paid for itself several times over... if that even matters because I hunt for fun not money... However since the Nox came out my CTX has been sitting... I prefer the Nox for it's speed it's just too fun to swing. I still use the CTX if I'm hunting in trashy parks and a couple very trashy beaches that are loaded with bottle caps.....as far as ergonomics go I feel some of you are giving the CTX a bad rap yes it is heavier overall but the Nox is Nose heavy so thy both have their faults...both with the small coils are effortless to swing...I will say one thing about the CTX it is slower then the Deus and Nox but if you hunt slow with it in nails with the small coils you will be rewarded as it has the uncanny ability to lock on coins and other good targets...like any machine you have to use it a lot to learn it... so for you CTX bashers here was me yesterday with mine in a very old hunted out site ? strick 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strick Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 3 hours ago, calabash digger said: .How much better is the CTX and ETRAC on deep silver than the Equinox? In my experience using both I dont think the ctx punches any deeper on silver then the Nox in fact I would say the Nox is just as deep if not deeper but the ID is more reliable on the CTX strick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest calabash digger Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 I have never been called a CTX basher..? Just garrett . What I am about to say is just my opinion... I bought into those saying the CTX is well balanced so the weight does not matter.... Well I will tell you this after swinging it for a few hours the balance did not matter.. The CTX hurt me... The Nox is nose heavy but no where as uncomfortable as the CTX on a long hunt day. IMO As for using the CTX will a small coil in heavy iron it loved to false on the square nails and I could not stand it ..Nice coin !! Now go back in there with the Deus or Equinox to see what you missed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dances With Doves Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share Posted December 25, 2020 It is funny comparing a metal detector to a boat anchor since my metal detectors found me at least 4 boat anchors. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Goldman Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 8 hours ago, strick said: so for you CTX bashers here was me yesterday with mine in a very old hunted out site ? 8 hours ago, strick said: In my experience using both I dont think the ctx punches any deeper on silver then the Nox in fact I would say the Nox is just as deep if not deeper but the ID is more reliable on the CTX strick Agree totally with this. It does do one thing really well (reliably IDs at depth - but mostly under ideal site conditions) and the seated save backs that up. I don't agree with calling it a boat anchor for this reason. But whether it is $1200 or $2500, that is a lot to pay for that singular capability. The ergonomic downsides of Nox have been capably addressed by 3rd party replacement shaft systems. And even with that additional expense, you are still ahead in the cost column (aftermarket mods can only partially address the CTX issues due to its integrated power module design). I can go low and slow with the Nox as well and similarly lock onto deep keepers with the Nox, though probably not with the same ID depth as the CTX so that is a good point. So there is always room for improvement. Nox is definitely not a perfect machine, either, obviously. Speaking for myself, I am not bashing the the CTX so much as making a commentary on the fact that it has seen its best days and a lower price point does not entice me to turn back the clock on technological capability and versatility which was the question (not whether the CTX is a good or bad machine but whether it is a good value at half the price). It is really not a slam but a reality check. In Multi IQ and future enhancements of that signal processing technology, ML has the ability to marry the best of both worlds and provide a CTX follow-on that maintains all the plusses of that design, while simultaneously addressing it's flaws and hopefully giving us great value in the process. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dances With Doves Posted December 26, 2020 Author Share Posted December 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, phrunt said: I'd love to own a CTX. You would probably enjoy it in your coin fields since you like superior target ID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dances With Doves Posted December 26, 2020 Author Share Posted December 26, 2020 10 hours ago, GB_Amateur said: Is that even possible? Tom D. on his forum described the Nox as a mid price/ mid line machine, he said to think of the new machine as flagship.That to me seems much better.I could be wrong but he is involved with this future machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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