Doc Bach Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 On 1/16/2024 at 7:54 PM, HardPack said: So you’re saying there’s a Chesapeake Bay retriever on that button. Under the right conditions, others may believe it to be Grateful Dead concert token. Either way I’d enjoy seeing photos posted of Sportmen’s buttons. Here are a few so called sportsmen's buttons HardPack and a Maritime button that came from the same place as the controversial and not a sports button was recently dug. The button pictured below would qualify I suppose as a true sportsmans button. Not sure what category the next one would fall under I guess that would be in the eye of the beholder. A sportsmans cufflink? The maritime Naval or Marine button was found last summer at the same place as the controversial mystery button.Very frustrating to photograph as there appears to be an inscription on the anchor. This final button is very special to me.It was sight found by me a few weeks after the mega Christmas flood of 1964 when I was twelve years old. At the gold rush ghost town called Timbucktoo near Smartsville California where my father was born and raised. When I showed it to my grandfather he called it a hunters or sportsman's button so that stuck with me. This button is not really period to the gold rush per say but 1870's or 80's? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCR Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Very nice. It’s odd that the shock of grain on the sight found button has a hollow reverse but the rabbit does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F350Platinum Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Wow. Now those are sportsman's buttons! 👍 Quite a collection. Looks like the rabbit is a pinned and peened addition. Awesome! 🏆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Bach Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 25 minutes ago, JCR said: Very nice. It’s odd that the shock of grain on the sight found button has a hollow reverse but the rabbit does not. Good point JCR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardPack Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, Doc Bach said: The maritime Naval or Marine button was found last summer Thirteen stars along the upper rim of the maritime button, if that has any meaning. The rabbit button has clean detail. Need to start educating myself on sportsman buttons. Nice finds, thanks for posting. 1 hour ago, F350Platinum said: the rabbit is a pinned and peened addition What is pinned & peened? Does anyone know now the designs were made or transferred? Several appear cast in a mold others stamped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardPack Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1776 Continental Marines device consisted of a fouled anchor and eagle as an original design following the design of United Kingdom Royal Marines. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USMC_oldEGA_button.jpg In 1776, the device consisted of a fouled anchor (tangled in its rope) of silver or pewter. Changes were made in 1798, 1821, and 1824. In 1834, it was prescribed that a brass eagle be worn on the cover, the eagle to measure 3.5 inches (89 mm) from wingtip to wingtip. An eagle clutching a fouled anchor with thirteen six-pointed stars above was used on uniform buttons starting in 1804.This same insignia is used today on the buttons of Marine dress and service uniforms, with the six-pointed stars changed to five-pointed stars. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F350Platinum Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 25 minutes ago, HardPack said: Thirteen stars along the upper rim of the maritime button, if that has any meaning. The rabbit button has clean detail. Need to start educating myself on sportsman buttons. Nice finds, thanks for posting. What is pinned & peened? Does anyone know now the designs were made or transferred? Several appear cast in a mold others stamped. You're looking at the back of the button seeing the stamped grain. Above it (think orientation) is what appears to be a peened pin coming through the back. I'm thinking that pin is attached to the rabbit. Soldering would burn the brass, the rabbit obviously isn't stamped. Just expanding on what JCR speculated. 🙄 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCR Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 The rabbit maybe just one of a series of different motifs that were available from that maker with the same shock of grain(which symbolizes Plenty). I think some Google Fu would show that out. I bet they had a Sea Hag one too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardPack Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I made out the rabbit pin on the back of the button. Got an artist to attempt an explanation of the metal casting process. Bronze casting process? Starting with a carved/engraved clay figure, enclose clay figures in split plaster mold, remove clay figure, fill plaster mold with wax, remove wax figure, dip wax figure in silica power multiple time forming a second mold, pour molten bronze into silica mold replacing wax. Vanishing wax method? For jewelry the wax may be carved/engraved. Clay is often used for larger figures. A lot of time & craftsmanship involved. *Wonder if the same method could be used to recycle gold crowns. Just a thought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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