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Thanks for posting that photo Steve, I feel a lot better now. I spot a SD2000, SD2100 and a Sovereign with the rare 11" Coinsearch coil! I'd sell the rest :biggrin: Oh maybe keep the Tejon too 

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Well I saw shocking reports on youtube the GM 1000 is unusable in VIC,s Golden Triangle. Maybe you could use your Impact with a harness if it is so heavy.Also if you prefer the Gold Racer to the Impact then I must conclude your Nevada sites are not heavily mineralised. I have been using the Impact at full volume but thanks to your info I will now set it at 90% full volume. I read a old comment of yours about nails and gold, how in high mineralisation VLF,s can give a ferrous ID and tone in a discriminating mode for gold. So many detectorists may have passed over gold nuggets without digging them up. I am using the GEN mode or all metal mode with disc. setting on 01 on the Impact,so I don't think I have passed over a nugget that gave a low tone as I am not in a discriminator mode.I have been told I don't know how to use the Impact properly or don't even own one for saying I only follow the tones in assessing a target and disregard the ID numbers as they jump all over the place in the highly mineralised ground where I detect.It is great when I can get backup and confirmation from you about these important issues.Thankfully this was on another US forum not yours.I think your forum is unique as it concentrates partly in gold prospecting and I find I am constantly drawn to your forum.Keep up the fantastic work and your heavy work rate as administrator; I know it must be very demanding.

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On 8/15/2017 at 4:49 AM, Steve Herschbach said:

I can console myself with the fact that I am nowhere near, not even in the ballpark, of some detector collectors. Here is a photo Carl Moreland posted of his collection back in 2008. Thanks Carl, I feel better now....

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Thanks for showing that old post Steve !!!!!!!! Will copy photo , frame it and give it to my wife . I may mention to her never complain again at my prospecting purchases . I hope I'm in for some trouble free shopping .

Cheers

goldrat

 

 

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I don't think anyone in their right mind would use a VLF/LF machine in hot ground like in the GT, and if they did they would have to reduce the Gain, ML already made machines to deal with that kind of dirt, even people who have never been there have heard about the GT.

Why people are asking or start complaining about the GM 1000 working in the GT is beyond me, 99% of people already know the answer, that's like entering a Dump Truck in the Indy 500.

J.

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On 8/15/2017 at 5:56 PM, Mike Dawson said:

Well I saw shocking reports on youtube the GM 1000 is unusable in VIC,s Golden Triangle. Maybe you could use your Impact with a harness if it is so heavy.Also if you prefer the Gold Racer to the Impact then I must conclude your Nevada sites are not heavily mineralised.

And to quote myself "I will finish up again by pointing out I am not trying to prove anything to anybody". My posting my thoughts about detectors is not an attack on other people or their choice of detectors.

Why would I, a person who has a Gold Monster, care what anyone else thinks about it? I have one and can make my own decisions about whether it serves my own purposes or not. I am certain the same holds true for you and if the Impact is the machine for you and what you do, I would never think to argue with you about your choice in that matter. I could use a harness with the Impact, but in all honesty it's not that heavy. Yet why would I choose to use a heavier machine with a harness when a lighter machine will serve my purposes just as well?

The ground I hunt varies, and there is some ground here in California every bit as bad or worse than anything I saw in my month around Meekatharra. When I run into bad ground I do not use a Gold Monster, or a Gold Racer, or the Impact. I use my GPZ 7000 or in rare circumstances my Garrett ATX. Most ground here is much milder however and some so much so it can almost be called non-mineralized -  VLF detectors work well in that sort of ground.

The whole point of the post is that I should sort out what is best for me and you should sort out what is best for you. There is no reason at all why we should have to agree on our respective choices. I post and walk through my rationale for my decisions in case my thoughts may prove helpful to somebody. That's all it is, nothing more. In no way should my choices in detectors be taken as a criticism of any other person's choice in a detector. The Impact is an excellent detector and quite capable of getting the job done for you.

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AMEN to that,

theres nothing wrong with any of the machines, and it only has to please one person, Approval is nice but it won't make it work any better, The detecting world of VLF's is in limbo at present and has been for a few years, hitting it's peak in the early 2000's and all we have seen is variants thereof, too close to call but the hardest part is picking one over the other, I am in no rush to buy another VLF until they break new ground, The GM is impressive because they removed all the junk and served up prime rump without the bones. all in all it is a serious VLF/LF.

J.

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The Gold Monster has its flaws also. I don't think I ever acted more aggressively to downplay expectations in a new detector but people really do read into things what they want to hear. Those wanting it to be the best thing since sliced bread overlook the comments about weaknesses, and those determined to dislike it find evidence to support that opinion also. All without ever laying hands on one! Those who get overly excited get disappointed, and those who say something is worthless get proven wrong. Over and over it goes with every new machine that hits the market.

My very first posts on the Gold Monster mention the non-adjustable rod, the fact the lower rod can loosen up and spin, lack of 12V cigarette style charger plug, coil sensitivity, 1/8" headphone jack, lack of threshold, and the fact that both higher and lower frequency machines might outperform it, to name a few. Yet nobody remembers any of that if they are looking to like the machine. There are good points also, but those looking to not like the machine ignore those. The wonderful world of confirmation bias!

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