The Question Even Drayton Can't Avoid

[Chase Goldman]

I've found that in a discussion forum format nothing good ever comes from expressing opinions that are hard to ever substantiate because they are so subjective, unlike detector performance or debating hardware specs which can somewhat be backed up objective test or finds evidence, and even then it is often left to personal perception.   That's why I attempt to refrain from casting doubt on another person's detecting skills, the authenticity of their finds, their detecting level of knowledge, or ability to articulate that knowledge in writing.  I try to avoid using the phrase "you're wrong" and try to let facts take care of the rest, especially if I am being personally attacked with false information that can be factually refuted.  It almost always degenerates into the side-taking divisiveness and borderline (or worse) personal attacks, braggadocio, and no-win arguements which I think goes against the general tone and spirit that Steve had established on this site to avoid the what other detecting discussion sites have devolved into.  Am I always successful in following my own advice.  Nope.  But I do try to stop myself from crossing the line of personal attacks, even when defending my position.

I shake my head ruefully when I see that this started because people questioned/defended the abilities of the detectorist who is named as the subject of this thread (originally meant to be humorous, btw) but who is NOT EVEN PARTICIPATING IN THE DISCISSION!  Incredibly ridiculous IMO.

[Chase Goldman]

18 minutes ago, Chase Goldman said:

 I always successful in following my own advice.  Nope.

In fact, one can legitimately argue that I violated my own advice by posting what I did, because my point of view on the issue is by definition subjective and opinion, so I will just own that right now so don't bother making a point of it.  But just had to get it off my chest.

[Alluminati]

7 minutes ago, Chase Goldman said:

 

At least we can all agree that I am the worlds 3rd best detectorist.

[Chase Goldman]

3 minutes ago, Alluminati said:

At least we can all agree that I am the worlds 3rd best detectorist.

Going to need to see the photographic evidence of you detecting on top of the water before I agree to that.

[GB_Amateur]

7 minutes ago, Chase Goldman said:

...One can legitimately argue that I violated my own advice by posting what I did....

I disagree.  It's always a wise decision to leave open the door that one may have erred, though.  However in this case there was no error (IMO ?).  You didn't take sides; you didn't name names.  Rather you attempted to defuse, and better yet reiterate the value of this site and one of the principles upon which it was founded.

30 minutes ago, Chase Goldman said:

....I think (much of this thread) goes against the general tone and spirit that Steve had established on his site....

Again you took the humble view ("...I think...") so as not to put words in Steve's mouth.  And again there isn't a sane person who would bet against this, even receiving very high odds.  This site isn't just Steve's (although obviously it couldn't exist in anything near its present valuable form without him).  It depends upon the cooperation of all posters, and that includes civility.

[cjc]

23 hours ago, Alluminati said:

No, why would you want to make any money. lol

Dear diary... ?

 

Before I write anything on a machine I try and read everything that's been said so far.  Gary did a tiny bit for the M/L "knowledge base" and then an article for "Searcher" that had only basic information on the Equinox.   I found this to be very disappointing.  When I had a face to face conversation with him he likened the EQ to a glorified V-Track.  I enjoy Garys blog too but have a sense that he just lost interest on this one--a shame cause it's a cool machine that does a lot of things.  Greatest hunter notwithstanding--there's more to being an "Expert"than being given a hat and blazer.   

[Alluminati]

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