Is The Day Of A Single Frequency Detector Past ?

[Geotech]

19 hours ago, Alluminati said:

Nice little nugget there.

How about Gold and Field, how do the "weighings" change these numbers, or is that done after the fact?

Thanks!

Field is the same as Park as I recall. Gold is primarily 40k with a smidgen of 5k, again my recollection. Don't have my notes with me. The smidgen appeared to me to be a pretty useless amount, so it may have been thrown in just to say the gold mode has multi-IQ.

 

[Geotech]

16 hours ago, Dubious said:

Isn't it established that the Nox always transmits 5 frequencies, and that the mode just determines how the received signals are processed and the frequencies weighted?

Who established that?

[EL NINO77]

Equinox-multifrequency-do not take 5 frequencies only in terms of sensitivity and range, it is the exact iD ... computation, and removal of ground signal - in depth and mineralization, salted water. , it divides the equinox from the normal VLF .. Clearly the possibilities of improvement here would be-I would envision the expanded ID, + 10  extra numeric ID  in  for low conductive objects in type 2 programs and gold programs...and it's perfect...Of course the multifrequency has a precise and strong impact - even in a small weight category...-test sniper coils...-4 bar tekG2 ,mineralizaded ground...

[Steve Herschbach]

If all Equinox brought to the table was multifrequency it would not be selling like it is. It it light weight, waterproof, built in wireless, and yes, multifrequency... all that and more for a killer price. What makes Equinox different is the complete package at an incredible price.

The number of frequencies, how they are employed, etc. is all a sideshow. It is as simple as the features for the price, and the fact that the machine actually does perform exceedingly well for the price. The CTX versus Equinox debate for example almost always ignores the elephant in the room - $800 vs $2500.

V3i? I have one and think highly of it for some uses, but stick one under saltwater and it does not work so well.

What if the Garrett AT Max had offered multifrequency? They would have beat Minelab to the punch. What if the Fisher CZX had actually happened as planned? What if White’s had stuck the V3i in the MX Sport package first? The fact is there was a large pent up demand for a detector like the Equinox that has been clearly expressed on forums for years, and Minelab delivered first and at a price that borders on predatory. It will be very difficult for the competition to compete at that level, even if they can overcome both the technical and patent issues.

That all said single frequency detectors will be around as long as I am alive at least. They do many things more than well enough for most people. The danger from a manufacturer standpoint is that anyone can make a good one now, and competition will demand a race to the bottom in retail pricing. Betting your company’s future on how cheaply you can make a single frequency VLF is a tough road to head down. The low cost manufacturer wins and everyone else faces a margin squeeze.

Only on forums do people really care about all this under the hood stuff. As a past retailer I can tell you all most people care about is what the detector will do for a price and not how it goes about doing it. The hype and marketing only gets you so far, as in time people do figure out what works and what does not. Like it or not there are some things multifrequency does better than single frequency and so a large segment of the established user base is demanding it. The masses will just follow along. It really is that simple.

[Bob'ke]

Hi All,

Thanks to Steve H. and Phrunt for wording my same opinion so well.

For all other manufacturers it will be step up to the new technology or weep. Everyone had the chance, but Minelab was the first to produce one and beat the others to it. 

In the future it will be choose or loose, I think. But what do I know? I'm just a hobby-detectorist, who is happy with my choice of detector and I wish everybody luck, happiness and great finds with their choices, whether it be an Equinox or another type or brand. ?

Greetings,

Bob'ke

 

 

[Geotech]

8 hours ago, phrunt said:

What you are possibly indicating is multi IQ is basically a marketing gimmick, however.. even if multi IQ is over stated in it's abilities something is making the Equinox work better than a lot of other detectors...

I'm not arguing that the Equinox is a gimmick, a whole lotta people thinks it's a good detector and that's fine. I'm just stating what the detector is actually doing vs what Minelab would like people to believe it is doing. I've said it before, it completely baffles me why Minelab wants to lie about their technology when the truth is every bit as interesting.
 

[Dubious]

10 hours ago, Geotech said:

Who established that?

Read it somewhere.  I believe the explanation was that in all modes the Equinox transmits a sinewave in each of the five frequencies in turn, repeating the sequence over and over; and that the mode determines how the received signals are processed.  Seems to make sense from an engineering point of view.  If this is in doubt, it's a question someone with a multi-trace oscilloscope (which I lack at present) should easily be able to answer.

[Geotech]

1 hour ago, Dubious said:

If this is in doubt, it's a question someone with a multi-trace oscilloscope (which I lack at present) should easily be able to answer.

And that's what I've done.

 

[EL NINO77]

 The transmitting frequencies of 5khz and 40khz are used to create a TX square wave ...   ... The transmitted signals change according to the type of program..