Gerry in Idaho

Just in the last couple weeks I was sent a couple pics from a customer who visited WY with his GPZ-7000. Now this customer knows his detector better than many, as he attended our 3 Days Field Training last Fall and it looks to be paying off. Over 5 ounces of gold and many of them solid nuggets and this folks just came from WY. Yes it's still out there for those who do research and legwork. I just love seeing customers success and is shows my staff/I efforts at Training is paying off. Anyone else been able to find any WY gold with a detector?

Well earned Rob, as you know those 1 oz'ers don't come very often here in the US for most folks. Glad to see you getting on here more and contributing. Keep it up and thanks for sharing.

I think maybe he hates getting his ars whipped by the NOX?

Interesting picker. I scratch my head at those on occasion and wonder why, but I have done it myself a few times, especially when I was learning the NOX. Gold #1, SENS 19, Manual GB in locked (not tracking) and DISC wide open (which is not what GOLD MODE IS SET FROM FACORTY). Making sure DISC is wide open and Tracking off will help on those, but if a hot rock or cold stone is near, then all bets off. Thanks for sharing the "invisible nugget", no more.

For most of Rye Patch with a GPZ-7000, my signals are very soft whispers. Now if I go to other areas not pounded, I seem to speed up and try covering more ground. At that point I am more interested in a semi clear repeatable signal. Only after I have found a nugget, then I go back to the Rye Patch crawl.

Yes it's still King at depth on big gold and I have not read anyone saying different. It is also still King at killing my back, neck and shoulders and $2000 more...for what a couple inches when we are already near 3 feet depth? I realize you are younger and in better shape than I Sir, so I'll stick to wisdom and hunt longer with less fatigue and usually find more pieces of the smaller gold and the other kinds of gold the 7 can't see as well. Please no disrespect Rob... just play along. This is my next call,... Wait...someone's calling and I am looking at a stack of 7's that need to be sold. Sir....YES the GPZ-7000 is still the king. Sir, yes it's only $2000 more, just money..they print the shit every day like its nothing. Sir.. Trust me, I assure you the 7000 is deeper. Sir, Of course the 7000 is heavier by 2 pounds, that's why it's 2 thousands dollar more. Sir... sir yes it will probably get 34" on a big nugget and the GPX-6000 will only get 32". But Sir, this is only 2" which is only $1000 an inch. Sir...You asking about small gold and that you heard the 6000 does better on small gold? Sir...You are buying an $8000 detector, are you really interested in that small gold, that's what a Monster is for. No Sir, I'm not trying to sell you 2 detectors just one. Sir...You said YES,...you'll take the the GPZ-7000? Oh Glory you just made my day. If you have any friends wanting a GPZ-7000, tell them to call me and when I run out my friend Rob has some too. Sir...Why do we have so many 7000's you ask? Well, well well. It seems most everyone else is getting the GPX-6000. Sir.. You ask when will us dealers get the 6? Shit...If I new that answer, I wouldn't be trying to sell my 7's so hard. CLICK....Hello...hello. Rob, Your points are true, but my gut tells me you'll have a new girl at the dance this fall. PS. Nice chuck of glory.

Northeast, You are getting me excited my friend with those comments and finds. Thanks for sharing your knowledge as you/we all learn. I'll have one in my hands when the time is right, but customers come 1st. Thanks again.

I used the stock coil last week as a customer wanted to purchase my 10" Ellip coil and so I felt keeping a customer happy is most important. So I don't have one right now. I'll get another order down the road, just not sure when.

I have dug gold nuggets and specimens my NOX reads from -#1 to #25. Realize the amount of mineralized soil around will affect ID. The depth of a nugget can affect the ID. The kind of hotrock on top or near a nugget can affect the ID. The density of gold can affect the ID. The old saying is true to this day. If you never want to miss gold, then dig it all. Even though I don't always do that, but it is true.

I've read a few posts from those who have both and their input is pretty much what I expected. Having fun (especially with others) is the majority of why I enjoy detecting. Only a select few actually do it for a living and do well. The rest of us (me included), enjoy the hunt, adventures, comradery with like minded friends, and getting some gold on occasion. It's looking like the GPX-6000 is getting the majority of gold better than the GPZ-7000. So, is the extra weight worth the rare occasional big nugget? Lets go a step farther. Say the ZED hits a 4 ounce nugget at 34". Will the 6000 hit that same nugget at 30", 32" 33" or 34". Say it's 2" less and only gets the chunk at 32". It's still near 3' deep which is deeper than most folks enjoy digging and or most other detectors out there. So the reality for most folks, the GPX-6000 at a cost savings of $2000 and over 2 pounds lighter, better ergonomics, no more tethered into a harness, more user friendly, real wireless Bluetooth phones, is the best option for most. Like I said in another post. There should be a convoy of GPZ users heading down the highway to get the new GPX-6000 and having more fun, more gold more often. I can help make that smile happen. Anyone have a point I am missing or totally off, please chime in. Pic of the nugget will probably only be a few inches in depth difference between the 6 and 7. But the majority of us would probably hear if with both machines at 30 or more.

Glad you were able to work hard enough and save enough to own both the Z and the new GPX6000, well deserved. It looks like you are answering some of our questions.

Was swinging the EQ-800 the other day and hit this nice specimen. I realize all the love is for the new GPX-6000, but come on, the reality is most folks can't afford it. There is still plenty people having fun with the VLF's.

40.93735834372933, -118.37677467837338 is a good place for base camp. You know I take gold nuggets in trade Condor or your favorite gold nugget hunting patches.

So you have hit a few patches out there in the flats off Jungo Road too. I really cleaned up at a few yrs back on one of those. Funny, nothing was very deep 10" and less. My question for those with a GPZ-7000. Do you spend a few thousand dollars more in coils to get a few more nuggets, or do you just purchase a GPX-6000 and have 2 machines ready at your disposal? I myself feel 2 detectors is smarter than 1, just in case 1 goes down and or a friend wants to hunt. Thanks for spending the time to share some of you findings/knowledge of the coils in semi salty ground.

I like a good challenge Steve. You also know as well as I do, Minelabs track records is as good as our gold hunting capabilities and that means the GPX-6000 is a winner. I'll be down towards the end of June and if I don't have one by then, lets try a variety of my specimens and see how well it really does. My Equinox is a tough nut to crack on that kind of gold. Even if the 6000 does not do quite as well, I'm all up for the 2+ pounds lighter and better ergonomics. You want to drag for pink slips.... now that's funny.

Both are worthy and I enjoy teaching the lady gold diggers.

You are the man Lunk and your knowledge of outer-space rocks supersedes mine by heaps. I swear I was there at that same spot back in my VLF days as I remember the clumps of grasses and the hilltop peak in the background. My VLF sang Hot Rock and my brain, said "not so fast amigo" so we checked it with a magnet. Yep it stuck to the magnet so I tossed it back down, the stupid hot rock got me again. If I had only known what a space rock was back then? Well earned my friend and another Top Notch NV Score for you.

I have never worried about a #9 lead shot on a PI, as I feel that small of a piece of gold is not exactly what I am chasing with a PI. Now if I remember and can find a tiny dove shot #9 with my VLF (it most certainly does when set up properly), I'll see what happens on the GPZ and hopefully on the GPX-6000. As for really small tiny gold pickers, my 25 yrs in the field with just about every gold detector I can get my hands on, the old reliable Fisher Gold Bug-2 is still King. It's certainly not the deepest VLF, but when on bedrock or decomposed granite, it shines the yellow stuff. Funny, how we are all wanting to see how the 6000 does, but I really do think it will be a few months down the road before there is enough people who know what they are doing, getting it in all the different soils, sites, and varying areas we enjoy chasing the gold and seeing the results on the varying gold types. I do want to make a very strong point though that has been mentioned before, many times and especially by those who have used the GPZ-7000 much. The better ergonomics and 2+ pounds lighter is enough for me to go GPX-6000, as I'll be able to hunt longer and keep the coil to the soil = more gold. If in fact it does to better on smaller gold or better at seeing the invisible gold, that is just a bonus.

Sorry I was late to my own party again but trying to keep customers happy and offer training is #1 and then comes this fine forum as a slight #2. Heck, I did not even realize your post GB and really do appreciate it. Sometimes newer folks need a simpler explanation of what to expect with different size/shapes of coils and I hope the impromptu off the cuff video and comments will help others. Dances with Doves- There are a few Hall of Famers in this bunch, I just happen to be one that also enjoys selling them. Thanks for the kinds words.

Chet, Part of the training sessions my staff and I do with customers (you a few times in years past on a variety of detectors) is interact, teach, learn, give/get advise and overall camaraderie within that group for the 3 days. I realized way back when on your 1st time with us, you had a gift as well and to this day you still display it. Your knowledge of electronics in detectors is above me, as I just know how to operate them well, but not really knowing the finer points as of what is going on in in a detector. Sure I know PI and VLF and patters, but your words of wisdom shines more light on it for us all. Even with all that power, you still enjoy comparing detectors, coils, settings, targets, just like my Staff and I...as the ultimate goal is for us to all get better. I look forward to getting the GPX-6000 in your hands, meeting again some time in NV or maybe CA this go round (if I get an invite) and comparing all over again to get the best results we can. This fine forum has some very knowledgeable followers and sharing bits of MD'ing experiences, knowledge and tips is what helps strengthen the hobby and hopefully putting a little more gold in the newer prospectors hands. New customers holding their 1st nugget and a golden smile is what my staff and I enjoy and I also feel you to are about sharing the knowledge we've earned and learned from yrs past. You said it very well again Chet and thanks for the time/effort to add to the post. Again, just like when my staff/I can snap a pic of a golden smile for a 1st nugget, you my friend shined on us again some of your knowledge in simple terms. See you in the field this Summer/Fall, teaching-learning-smiling.

My good friend Larry S was proud to share some recent success using his Equinox 800 and the new 10" Ellip NOX coil. Notice how small the one just in front of the CoilTek, pretty amazing. Nice to see some of what other people find as some folks think me being a dealer, it's setup. Those who know me, realize it's real and I would never take credit from a customers success anyway. If you want to learn more about the benefits of the new NOX 10" Ellip 10x5" coil, watch this video: Time to get out there and get you some. Thanks again Larry for sharing your Success.

Great responses from everyone and I appreciate the love as I really do try and care about my customers Success and them knowing their detectors better than what any other dealer will provide. I love it when I see other dealers offering education, as that is what separates us few from the majority. So when I see them offer some training, I just make sure my staff and I offer more and also the knowledge of seeing different kinds of gold in its natural state the way it was found and how those varying pieces respond to the multiple gold detectors on the market is very informative and unknown to most, including many dealers. As stated by some of my customers that have taken my class before, the density of the gold in a specimen is critical to how it responds to the different detector technologies. Here is something to think about. A Larger or dense nugget on the Minelab PI's/ZED in the preferred timings we use in most places of the US, the gold makes the low-high-low sound and pattern. But smaller nuggets and the few specimens with dense enough gold in it that the PI's/7000 see, they make the traditional high low sound. Now I realize there is always an exception, but 4 of my staff and I have been running Minelab PI's since the SD-2100 days for 20+ yrs. Our ears have learned the pattern of sounds as well as the width of target response vs ground noise and we've all dug 1000's of nuggets to compare to the sounds of the gold we find. Brian mentioned it. How many people have taken a vial of flower gold 1/4 oz, 1/2 oz, 1 oz and listened to their PI detectors? Most will crap their pants with the results. Let's hope the extra sensitivity of the 6000 can help in recover more of those ghost nuggets so I can quite taking 2 detectors on my trips.

You know me well Mitchel, Weight and Ergonomics do in fact = more gold for this old Jar-Head.

Cobill- Glad you and many others enjoyed that reading lesson I posted over the winter. It's not that I don't enjoy selling bigger higher end detectors (in fact I do), but it's the VLF's that will keep on giving on a variety of gold the other PI's and ZED just can't see. I don't make this stuff up, it's facts that I can easily back up and I do it every year. Here is another one I recently posted to FB (Gerry McMullen) that the Gold Monster 1000 recovered in the same gridded site the 7000 already clean out. In fact the guy wish the 7 was there and showed me where to go with the Monster, He was so stunned the 7 missed it, he took the nugget and played with his 7 for 30 minutes trying to get the detector to respond. Nothing, not a peep. So what do you think he did next? Be pissed off the 7 did not see it and a handful other others? Or think positive and realize there is a need for a VLF, which he purchased that same day before I left. Now he too is a beleiver and have showed me many ounces of Au he's recovered with his Monster and now Equinox-800, that his 7000 can not see. At least he realized the importance to own both and that a real gold hunter does not like to leave gold. This is a nice collectors specimen and the one his ZED does not see/hear at all, even in air. It The Gold Monster 1000 earned it's bacon on that day. Below is the 32 gram = 1.03 ozt piece so many bigger detectors can not see.

I like detecting for a variety of gold and really enjoy finding the stuff many higher end detectors can't see. I don't know yet, but feel the extra capabilities of the GPX-6000 will open up some of these areas I hunt with the VLF's to get even more of the gold and at greater depths or in worse soil conditions. As long as I am getting more gold, I'm happy. Will the new GPX-6000 see this kind of gold or act like all other PI's and the ZED and not see at all? I recently recovered this 4.2 gram speci with the EQ-800 while running the new CoilTek NOX 15" round. My goal was to find a piece of gold with the 15" and I met that goal. Part of some other testing back at base proved why I still like to take 2 detector technologies in the field. This particular beauty was found right in the middle of a GPZ-7000 grid area, along with 4 others while using different coils on the EQ-800. All 5 pieces specimens have visible gold and a couple how quite a bit, but to the point. The reason I found them in that gridded area, is because the GPZ-7000 does not respond or on a couple right near 1" and that's it. I teach folks this in my classes, as well as try to educate others on the goods and the bads of different detectors and technologies. Sometimes I get detectorists who are good hunters with their detectors and have success, tell me I'm full of BS and their detector will find it. I made a post on my FB (Gerry McMullen) and shared a pic of the find along with the true comments of, the GPZ will not see it. Between the private messages and or public posts, I was immediately informed by a few of BS and even told how I must not know the GPZ-7000. One well known GP-3500 hunter even said he guaranteed his 3500 would hear it. I know gold detectors and I know how to find gold with a variety of gold machines. No I am not the best, but I most certainly can hold my own and I learn to adapt really fast to a new area. Traveling to different states and countries to hunt for and find many different kinds of gold has helped elevate my detector knowledge and skill of many models of detectors and the differing Au rocks I have collected. So here is hoping the GPX-6000 with it's GeoSensing can respond to this little beauty. If it does, I know of some areas I'll be swinging the 6000. If it is like the GP-3500, the GPX-5000 and the GPZ-7000 and misses it, that fine too, I know what they can't see and realize it, I will also know where not to use the 6000. Bottom line for everyone. Please learn the kinds of gold your detector is good at finding and what it is not, so you aren't wasting time in those areas. Or be sure you have at least 2 different detector technologies.