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  1. Just as a general idea, there is detectable gold in the wider Bagdad area, if that helps keep the spirits up for a little more exploration closer to home. I've had absolutely horrible and entirely regretable experience sharing specific areas with some people in Arizona, leaving a lot of areas I loved completely and utterly decimated. It's happened to others too, and there are a lot of people highly guarded about discussing areas in Arizona as a result of it. It's a shame because there are some amazing finds in the state that just never get seen at all now because of it all.
  2. I think high gas is going to be the new normal too. I live in oil central, and there is zero new activity here. I've never seen anything like it here - prices sky high and none of the companies are even trying to mobilize. All the service companies are twiddling their fingers waiting to get to work and....just nothing. It's like bust times, except oil is at record highs. I'm hearing a few things that probably all change the oil landscape long term or forever and leave prices permanently high: When oil went negative after Covid, the companies took a major hit and probably wrote hedges (gold miners do this too) at some low rate like $40/barrel. And now they are stuck with them, so they are keeping prices high for as long as possible to run those hedges out and write new ones at a higher price. There is no point to spend money drilling if you are forced to sell the oil at low prices. Problem is compounded because electric vehicle market share is simultaneously increasing drastically and likely to cut into gasoline demand by the time some of these hedges expire, at which point they will want to naturally ramp up gasoline prices anyways to make up for lost demand, so they might as well keep them high from here on out. So, rather than picking up rigs and increasing production which would lower oil prices again, they are putting the profits back into the company, shareholders, kings, and princes that took a major hit during negative oil prices when Covid hit, since that increased production may likely go to waste when EV's take over. Also, OPEC lost every shred of control of the oil markets for the first time ever, when oil went into the negative $'s. They are a cartel, cartels with no control are meaningless. High prices on the other hand put the ball entirely in their court since they have control over the market again by flooding or restricting oil exports. And likely they will keep prices high and supply on the low side to avoid another Covid negative $oil price crisis again where there was simply too much oil and too little demand all at once. I have 20kW of solar panels I'm trying to permit on my building to make my own "gas" if I can find a cheap runaround electric car. Utility doesn't like allowing used panels to grid tie unfortunately. Still need a big truck to tow heavy equipment though, and long range offroading is still an issue with electric.
  3. Thanks, the picture is a bit clearer now with some 3rd party evidence, seeing as they can't even sell approved coils and have no horse in the race. After the 7000, it's hard to know exactly what is or isn't possible and what's just marketing at play. Sometimes it feels like pulling teeth trying to cut down to the actual reality of issues with these machines. It's either that or just take it all for face value, which history has shown me is usually wrong when it comes with dealing with corporations.
  4. I wasn't aware X Coils was making any coils for the 6000 at all until a few days ago when I asked for some kind of comment from them, and you responded. We ask about these things because we aren't mind readers. Maybe I missed something earlier on the forum when I was away for 3 or 4 months regarding sizes? I got told often that there were no issues with 6000 EMI when I posted about it early on. Did that turn out to be the reason bigger coils are infeasible on it out of curiosity?
  5. (Emphasis mine) The point for me is being able to get rid of the 7000, or at least reduce the cases in which it might need to be used. It's heavy, no fun to swing, and an $8000 purchase that I'd love to sell and recoup some costs from. That detector gave me permanent tennis elbow, I don't want to swing it any more than I have to. A major selling point of the 6000 is ease of use, and lightweight. Not to mention built for coil selection compared to the GPZ. Why wouldn't I want to swing the 6000 instead if I could use a few $400 coils to cut into the 7000's depth advantage? Of course that is going to be one of the first questions I want to ask and figure out. There is no need to get frustrated over people asking what should be expected questions, telling them they are guessing or bitching. The simple fact for me, and I assume it's getting to be the same in Australia too, is that to pay for trips now in the US and maybe make some money on top, I have to still hit up the deep ground and look for the big pieces. 1/4 grammers are great leads to find patches, but they add up slowly. It's a necessity to start farming the 1/4+ oz'ers out after that to make the trip pay, a single 1 oz'er can pay for an entire season's gas (well, used to anyways). Even just getting 5000 depth performance on the 6000 with a few additional $400 coils would be sufficient reason for me to ditch the 7000. As usual, a lot of this could be solved by a little communication from Minelab. Are they about to release a new lightweight GPZ making this whole line of discussion moot? Or are we still years off? Are coil manufacturers in fact allowed to make any range of sizes and types (concentric, flat wound, etc) of coils for the 6000, or is Minelab limiting the types of coils that will be available as they did with the 7000? It should be no mystery why people are asking what they are asking about 6000 coils. We always want to make the most out of what we have now, and get rid of the dead weight to recoup costs. I don't want to use the 7000 now any more than I wanted to keep using my 4500 after it was replaced, if there are cases it can be avoided.
  6. Dang, sorry to hear they won't be making them. Well, thanks for the update anyways, at least one no longer has to wonder...
  7. Crazy, that's an awesome score still even if the big stone isn't real. I always forget about the other parts of the forum until I see a post pop up in the sidebar, and then I'm always utterly amazed at the amount of stuff you guys are finding on beaches...beach detecting is starting to look more fruitful than nugget shooting in some respects! Plus you get a nice cup of coffee paid for in change on your way home.
  8. Lack of QC was given or assumed as another reason X Coils couldn't be approved, IIRC. Ironic, given the QC issues with the 6000 now. This last detector release made me realize that I am getting seriously burned out and tired of buying ultra expensive detectors to fill various niches. Especially now that gold is just getting harder to find in paying quantities, at least here in the US. I think I got one more new machine left in me and then I'm done with that game. I love keeping up with technology and being on the cutting edge, I'm that way with everything I do from job to hobby. I'll be ultra stoked and excited on the next GPZ, and probably buy it if it suits me. But it might be my last. I can feel myself just losing interest in the entire Minelab marketing shenanigans in general, it's just old and tiresome to me at this point and cuts into my enthusiasm for products. They are trying to emulate the Apple playbook in some ways, and even Apple with the most rabidly loyal fanbase in the world learned that eventually customers get tired of it, when it becomes clear things are intended more to mine their wallets than to provide awesome new features and usability that users are asking for. This type of product segmentation, requiring customers to only use "corporate approved" crap, this is not what made companies like Apple great, it's what made loyal customers start to get tired with or even angry with them, and Minelab is starting to fall into that category to me. All that aside, I'm actually pretty content right now with the 11" mono myself, it is what it is and I'd certainly use something better if it was available, but just the weight and usability is enough for me at the moment since I really want a break from the GPZ. I'd take a smaller coil to save some more weight, I don't particularly need it though. I'd definitely take a concentric, flat wound, or other coil that gives me greater performance with a lighter weight, of any size, if it can cut into the 7000's territory a bit more. If any manufacturer wants to make such a thing, or if it's possible. But, there is nothing interesting to me about just simply a smaller coil just based on size, if it doesn't at least perform better in some way.
  9. The part I'm curious about is wether they can squeeze more performance out when it's thought impossible, or if there really are hardline limitions with coil designs on the 6000 and the existing coils are already up against them. It was said you couldn't do this or that with 7000 coils because of over saturation, inability to balance in many soils, etc. But they found a way. Is it the same with the 6000? I never personally saw any issues that required me to use the ferrite ring with any GPZ coil, including stock. Nor did I ever see any issues with the X Coils failing to balance, aside from a few quirks in some very specific areas. So, it seems like a silly limitation to require all coils to be designed for global users such that they operate ok in difficult soils that I (and many others) will never detect in our lifetimes. My wish list ultimately would to be able to have coils for the 6000 that let me get rid of my 7000. If such a thing is possible. Because I'm pretty tired of the boat anchor. Whatever those coils may be that get me closer to that goal, even if it just means using the GPZ less than I already do, then I'm all for it.
  10. Not selling your 6000 anymore then? I see indications that the rigid control over coils and the range of sizes available is less about Minelab adding another revenue stream (how much can you actually make off a chip license compared to a new detector sale?) and more to ensure there is a solid delineation between detector models in performance, so as to ensure we'll always be eager for newer detector models at $6-10k rather than just buying much cheaper coils to enhance performance.
  11. Depth isn't as important as you might be thinking it is. If you are in mostly undetected country, then most of the gold within reach of a 7000 is also still within reach of a 6000. The two are separated in terms of inches, or less depending on the coils and nuggets. What is most important at your experience level is learning to find good gold first, and the 6000 is built for that type of exploration. In steep, vegetated terrain, the GPZ is very difficult to use. And the 19" coil isn't a whole lot deeper, but is a whole lot heavier. It's the last coil I'd ever consider using up in the mountains, in fact I'd never use it for anything personally. Also: in highly uneven mountainous terrain, or working cuts and steeps, the bungee/harness doesn't help much at all. The 6000 is purpose built for working steeps, finding patches, and general exploration. The 7000 is built for getting another few inches depth in patches you've already found, or other known ground where you suspect the gold is hiding inches beyond what the 6000 can hear. In glacial terrain the depth of the detector isn't nearly as important as learning to find shallower ground. Glaciers leave gold so chaotically distributed that prospecting skill is far more valuable than having the best detector, and IMO the 6000 is the best detector by far to explore with and develop such a skillset.
  12. I wish the X Coils guys posted some update on the forum, I'm pretty curious what they think about wether or not the 6000 is suitable for flat windings, concentrics, etc and wether they can make some coils that have actual performance gains and not just size selections.
  13. Nice gold Geoff and I agree with the wording too. If I already owned a GM1000 and wanted to buy just one single detector to use in the Rockies, it'd be the 6000. Just be ready to noise cancel it often if you use the speaker or work close to EMI sources. The 7000 was an absolute bear to use in Colorado the one day I tried (I dislocated my shoulder falling after trying to detect a steep incline, so trip ended), and having also been to BC, things are just as steep and even more vegetated up there. It's been long enough since the 7000 release that a new one must be on the horizon soon so it's not really a machine I'd recommend anyone to buy right now really until we see what the next one costs and how it performs.
  14. What are the prices in USD for these Rob? I'm assuming the ones on the prior page are in AUD?
  15. Steel bearings are made with much tighter tolerances than lead pellets since they have to roll true, if you guys are looking to normalize geometry. Maybe a more consistent alloy too since they are made from rolls of wire and there is less variance in stainless steel than there is in shotgun pellet alloys. Kits like these are cheap. Of course the response to steel is different than to lead and gold, but it might not matter if the main goal is just to have a standard baseline object that anyone across the world can test and replicate.
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