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Hmmm, I don't know if PWM would help that or not, but you have stated before that your black sand beach is some of the hardest sand around to detect, so I would definitely suspect that black sand, specially if you get good clean sounds in air tests. A couple of thoughts... Do you clean out your coil cover out regularly? The black sand could be accumulating in there and causing some havoc. Are you running Full Tones? One thing I did notice is that in Pitch Tones, the bobby pins sounded like iron IDed lower but in Full tones, they sounded non-ferrous and IDed higher.

It is confusing so let me see if I can help. First off think as PWM and Square audio as sound types. Think of the Tones, 2, 3, 4, 5, Full, and Pitch as sound styles. PWM audio is a triangle-wave type sound that ramps up or down though a broad range and tends to have a more nuanced sound. Square audio is square-wave smoothed off sound that ramps up or down rapidily and has a more pleasant sound to many people. You can assign PWM or Square audio to any Tone style setting. The Tone styles, 2-5 Tones, you are familiar with and each tone bin can be assigned a tone break and a tone pitch. Full Tones is a full range sound that distributes the pitches (low to high) according to target conductivity with less change in volume. Target depth and size can affect the sound. Shallow and large targets tend to give a distorted or overdriven sound depending on your Sensitivity and Audio Response settings. Pitch Tones is a VCO sound that increases and decreases in amplitude according to size and depth of a target. The Audio Response setting also plays a part on the sound. It is a dynamic range control for the audio. The default is usually 4. Higher settings increase the dynamic range making smaller and deeper (weaker) targets sound louder but removing some depth perception. Lower settings give more depth perception but reduce the volume of smaller and deeper (weaker) targets. That's basically it in a large nutshell. Pick the Tone style you prefer and set the audio type (PWM or Square) you prefer. Coming from an Equinox, I used mostly Square audio because I was used to that sound, but I have been learning PWM audio more lately and really like it. Some people hate PWM, but that's the beauty of all the sound choices of the D2. You can set it up any way you like.

I have not had a chance to hit a beach with the D2 yet, so most of my hunting is parks and relic sites. I look forward to trying out some beach settings later this year and I really appreciate your insights, midalake. Hopefully the upcoming update will address that.

Thank you GB, that's what I was thinking and thanks for the link to the book!

There has been quite a bit of discussion about the Deus audio and how target TID can differ from target audio. In my effort to learn the D2 more thoroughly, I've been trying to learn the sounds and diferences between Tones vs Pitch vs Full Tones and PWM vs Square audio. I came from a square tone world so working in PWM has taken some getting use to, but I am finally starting to get the hang of it. I still like Square audio and really like Pitch tones, but have forced myself to use Full Tones in PWM to train my ears. One of the main advantages I am learning with PWM is that it gives more subtle audio information that can help with identifying targets. I was reminded of this again last weekend when I was invited by a detecting buddy to help out on a Ring Rescue mission. He is the consummate jewelry detectorist and a member of Ring Finders. So I met up with him a tiny house to look for a lost wedding ring set in a small gravel covered yard. It was a short hunt and we both covered the area with no luck. Since we still had an hour or two to kill and some sunshine to burn, we decided to hit a small park that I had never been to. This is when the D2 decided to teach me another lesson. I decided to start off in the Silver Slayer program (Fast, Notch to 40, No upper Notch, Pitch in Square audio) to cover more area in the short time we had. I had only travelled a short way across the field glancing at every good sounding TID looking for nickel and dime to quarter range signals when I noticed a recurring 57 number popping up. That's usually a junk target in my parks, but as the D2 would explain, not always. That's when I stopped and changed back to my Fast Full Tone program with PWM audio and retraced my steps. I could hear a familiar wavy/scratchy with iron bump sound with most of the 57s but one sang out hard and round. I dug all the 57s and I'm glad I did, because the really good sounding one turned out to be a 10K gold ring with a heart shaped Fire Opal two small diamonds! The D2 reminded me to stick with the lesson program and complete my training and I will, although I'll happily accept more lessons like that! ? To recap the lesson plan: See with Your Ears...

That's a puzzler. It doesn't look like any Royal Navy buttons I could find. Perhaps it is from another county. I looks pretty old. Great find!

Ditto that! I think we've had 3 public updates since the D2 release and the V0.71 was substantial and gave us a lot of what we had been asking for. When I bought mine it came with the second version of V0.6 and I used that for a month or so before updating to V0.71. Even for a XP noob like me, I could tell there were marked improvements. Now, after using V0.71 for almost a year and learning the D2 more, I'm really liking it and I can work with this. I still feel the D2 was the best purchase I could have made for the types of detecting I do and haven't felt the need to buy any of the other new ones. JMHO.

So in a semi-related question, looking at X-rays of double D coils, I noticed one coil winding is physically larger than the other. Which side of the DD coil is the transmitter and which is the receiver?

Ha, ha, ha, good one, mplutka! ?

Wow, those are some sweet finds, kac, well done! It looks like your deal with the devil is paying off! ?

Dang, SohN, looking at the trash page, I thought you were using the GPX! ? Nice haul and congrats on the silvers. It looks like you're getting Mandy dialed in nicely. Well done!

Yes, please! ? I can wait for both as long as it takes, but I'm ready when they are. ? I have an advantage because I'm not in a race fighting for scraps on detector crowded beaches and parks, so I'll just plod along enjoying my toys, finding what I'm finding, and not finding what I'm not finding until we get whatever goodies XP has in store for us. Have fun out there, after all that's what it's all about... for me anyway. ?

Very nice finds, Seeker, well done!

Another fine haul, SohN, congrats on all the copper and silver and wanna-be silver! I'd take that quarter to a coin dealer or jeweler with an XRF machine to read the metal contents of the coin. And to a coin dealer, it could actually be worth a fair amount of money.

So it could have been from small steel scissors with sterling finger grips that possibly broke off when the steel rusted away.

That's odd. I checked mine with the detector off and nothing set off my pinpointer except near the aluminum upper shaft and down near the coil. It does go off when the detector is on because the it picks up the field generated above the coil which goes pretty high when the sensitivity is high. The chattering you are experiencing may be due to running the sensitivity too high.

Way to persevere, Seeker, it paid off big time! Well done!

Great hunt, Sirius, with gold, silver, brass, & lead, and a silver Rosie, well done!

Well done, kac! That buckle, pot handle, and broken metal plate with the hole look like they have some age to them. Good Hunt!

Awesome find, Stering! Is that wood or rusty metal protruding from the bottom. Because the angle of the oval part is offset a bit and looks rounded inside, I was thinking it could be from a pair of very fine sewing scissors.

Very interesting finds, JCR, and they all look very old. well done! The hand auger, spike, and decorative piece are awesome. Is the larger object an axe head? The long item kind of reminds me of a scraping tool of some sort.

Another great find, Steve, and incredible cleaning job as usual, well done!

Congrats on your first hunt, Geologyhound, great finds, well done! The Silver Slayer program is great for coins, but as F350 noted, it will miss a lot of gold and even silver rings, depending on size and shape. You can change the notches on that, or any program to allow more of the gold range in. F350 also mentioned ways to determine some trash signal from good one. Big objects will usually ring in high and iron will false high on the Pitch audio. Raise the coil up to 6 inches on a loud high ringing suspect target. If it is something like a large can, it will sound the same as you raise the coil. If it is a high conducting coin or jewelry, the sound will fade fast as you lift. Also turn 90° on suspect targets as you sweep. Bad targets will usually change sound and ID drastically, but good targets usually sound good and ID the same as you turn. You should dig everything at first to learn how the D2 responds to each type of target. I still dig suspected trash targets from time to time just to verify them. A lot of what you know from your XLT will carry over into the Deus 2, it just has different ways of responding. As you get use to the sounds of the D2, you'll learn to hear slight differences in different types of targets which will help tremendously. There is so much to learn, but you are well on your way. ?

Thank you for that review, Colonel! I got my 280 long before I got my D2 and it accomodated my other detector well, but haven't flown with either yet. I actually never considered using the 280 to fly with and usually pack my detectors (all except the control pods) in a checked suitcase. I have to fly next month with the D2 and was wondering if I could put the coil in a checked bag or would have to carry it on with the control pod because of the internal batteries. I was considering getting the hard plastic case to carry on the whole D2, but your review convinced me I can use the 280 instead. Thank you again!

Well great finds again to you GB, and it was a fun test! Cheers! ?