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I'd like to thank you as well IBMe, for staying on top of these videos, while none of them particularly nail the best aspects of the upgrade, it is interesting to have them try. 👍
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This post is for @Lodge Scent, and anyone else who still has time to do some relic hunting. Traditionally I have used a highly modified relic program that has scored some incredible stuff for the last few years, those who follow me know what I'm writing here 😏 Lodge is thinking of updating to V3.02, and I thought, "well hell, I'm retired and can go out there right now for a bit!" I grabbed the trusty D2 with the 13", my Ranger Shovel and MI-6, and went outside across the cul de sac to a field that is mowed but not planted, I'm getting a new neighbor eventually. He gave me permission to continue saving all the history until he grasses it in. It's where I first found lots of buttons and cut pistareens. I've been out there many times, also grid searched it heavily with my old Equinox 600 and the Deus a bit. Again I noticed I could turn up Sensitivity to 95, 97 was a bit more bump prone, but I only got small blips as I scrubbed the coil through the stiff cover crop stalks. I was fine with that, if it was making no noise at all I'd have to keep checking it with my shovel. 😅 My Relic program under V2 was really tight, I almost never dug any iron. Not so with V3.02 🫤 It wasn't bad but I did get some falsing stuff: Particularly the curved piece top left, it insisted on being a 75 until I dug it out, then it disappeared, and then only ID'd as an 04. 😵 I switched from High Square to PWM and back again, and it seemed much better. 🤔 Got rid of the issue. Again, this is a Beta version, and should be thought of as such. I have no idea why that happened, wish I had something to tell XP. I did switch between my beach program and relic to verify some iron, so that might be what caused it. Aluminum was again a pain, but I found I hadn't put Audio Filter at 5 so I did that and at least the large aluminum gave me brassy tones after that. Under this version my MI-6 doesn't always make a sound in the headphones when it comes on, so that's something too. 🤔 Anyway I got two good finds in 2 hours: A brass saddle pin the Hoover Boys call a "Throckmorton" 😏 because of its suggestive shape, I have found 2 of these here but this one is complete. It still has the clamping pins. The other find shocked the heck out of me, I got an 85 with an iron tone, after the first dig it settled down to an 82 and stayed there with no iron tone: Yet another cut pistareen, the "II" denoting a 2 Real is clearly visible. No date, but the reverse has detail too: This version seems buggy, but I'm sure they will get it straight, so I'd say if you know your Deus you could upgrade, but be prepared to have the changes to the changes cause a little bit of trouble. 🍀
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They Make 'em Big In Texas
F350Platinum replied to F350Platinum's topic in Metal Detecting For Jewelry
I'm sure that is why the good Colonel offered to help! I've already initiated the process from my end as well. I sure wouldn't hold back with a soldier from any branch. 🤔 Same for the Masonic ring I dug recently, I've found nearly 10 grand in purchase price of gold rings in the past 4 months. Glad I got to make people happy with it. 🙂- 21 replies
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Thanks Lodge, I want to get out for a relic hunt, may hit a field in front of my house this week. Relic is a very important program to me, just not this time of year 😅 If you upgrade I'll be very interested if you get out first to read your impressions. 🙂👍
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Thanks Colonel, I agree that if you're not going to get the HF2 coil or don't want new audio for the Xtrem Hunter, it's really not necessary until the version is firmed up. I'm glad it didn't mangle my programs like the change from V1 to V2, some things are better, much better. Some things are worse.
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F350Platinum replied to F350Platinum's topic in Metal Detecting For Jewelry
Yeah, IDs are tighter, separation is improved, my old settings are cool for the most part. 👍 Jury is out on low conductors so far. I'm pretty sure the copper content of 10k is what pushed this ring up so high. 🙂 I'll have to air test it with my other machine.- 21 replies
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There is no also. It is Beta version 3.02. As IBme wrote, it does have a new "pulse audio" function for the Xtrem Hunter, but I'm not going to comment on that. The other changes may change as well.
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F350Platinum replied to F350Platinum's topic in Metal Detecting For Jewelry
Yep, anything from 70-99 is a mandatory dig for me! 😅 Lately, and now with both detectors, it's getting more tiring. They're both deep seekers. The new D2 version (beta) is much more stable than its predecessor, especially with external noise and ground noise, but it's a problem with where they decide to assign IDs. I'm pretty sure that for the most part they have control over some of it, either in audio or putting different waveforms in ID bins. I'd love to be a fly on the wall for those meetings 🙄 🤷♂️- 21 replies
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As promised I got out yesterday to a much larger beach than the first one I went to. This is a pebbly, heavy sand beach with a mix of white sand, pebble sand, clay, and other stuff, it's kind of a mess but there is no mineralization in most places, or the D2 is kind enough to ignore it. I've hit dimes here at a foot deep, both silver and clad. I used the Deus with the new software and the 13" coil, here is what I observed and felt, the good and then the questionable: First, the primary and most important thing to me is how much more silent the D2 is until you are over a target. I used to use 93 Sensitivity, now I can push it past 95 without much noise at Audio Response 7! Instead of lowering sensitivity, I lower Audio Response to 6 or 5 if I encounter any chatter. As you'll see in my finds, there are some that have been there for a long time, and man did I have to dig. It is very stable now even at high sensitivity. Turning sensitivity up equalled more targets. There are some spurious blips as I had with the previous version, but either I'm better at ignoring them or they are fewer. 🤔 Second, the audio is markedly louder, I'm sure there were complaints about audio using the backphones with crashing surf, this is a river beach so it's not all that bad. I used to run it at 8 or 9, but found 7 was fine. Pinpointing "seems" more accurate, but I still had some location issues. I tried the negative Silencer, but still prefer 0 for now. Negative numbers brought more falsing. I also tried setting Discrimination at 4, as recommended by the air testers but 0 is much preferable. Too many cutouts, many targets here have iron around them or are encased in a conglomerate, I need to hear both. The iron response "seems" to have improved. I didn't dig any. The RC cut out on me 3 times with my 9" coil but it didn't at all with the 13", it lost connection. Either there is something wrong with my 9", or it doesn't play well with it. Come on HF2! 😅 Now for the bad, aluminum. 🫤 This beach is loaded with shot through ragged beer can slaw, and pull tabs from every century back to the Revolution. 🙄 I pushed audio filter to 5 to give aluminum a "brassy" tone, it worked for most of it but with this version all you can do is lift and pray. Better to dig. Those damn aluminum chair rivets are now a beautiful tone with an ID in the 80s. 😵 Most pull tabs are up in the 70s, wrong way, XP! Can slaw is in the 50s. Pure tones. Lead is still lead, 60's to 80's, you're going to have to dig it all. Here's the trash, way more than I used to dig: Guess I have some training to do. Here are the finds: Notice how nasty some of the coins are, they were insanely deep. This machine is easily on par with any comparable VLF, that's for sure, and is now as quiet. I know because I have the competition. It "feels like" some of the IDs have been moved. 🤔 Some in the wrong direction. I also noticed far fewer low conductors, but it definitely did will with foil. Got a prize for all this hard work, you better dig those damn Zincolns, because this was an 82: A 33 gram (more than 1 ounce) 10k gold ring. Biggest gold I've ever found. At this point while I like testing this version and enjoy being among the first to do it in situ, I would not recommend you jump in unless you have a spare RC or WS6, some of this will change, and like V1, there may be radical changes. I have 2 remotes, so I don't worry. I can always run the tried and true. Hey @TampaBayBrad, I did it! 🤣 🍀
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You only have the Xtreme Hunter Interface because you only have the Xtreme Hunter. The RC (Remote Control) will work with any Deus 2 coil. The update is a Beta update right now, unless you want to relearn some things that may again change, you could run the B3.02 update. If you only have one Remote Control, I would wait. I have 2 of them, so I updated one.
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They Make 'em Big In Texas
F350Platinum replied to F350Platinum's topic in Metal Detecting For Jewelry
Haha, it's not the most ostentatious ring I've ever found, but I wouldn't wear one that big. 🤔 This silver monster holds that belt. 🤣- 21 replies
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I'm pretty sure we will, it's recent so it shouldn't be that hard. They have a Lost and Found ring form, I guess they are as serious as the Masons. 🤔- 21 replies
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Thanks Compass, I wonder if I'll ever find a ring this massive again that might be a keeper, however I probably wouldn't wear it. 😅 I really pray there isn't a backstory other than a simple loss. 😬 I'm thinking that finding it that deep is rather odd but at some point the tide could have come up high enough to help it sink. Honored to join the club with y'all, and I'll update this thread with the outcome. 🙂- 21 replies
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F350Platinum replied to F350Platinum's topic in Metal Detecting For Jewelry
Thanks! I think just about any detector would have found that monster but the trick was digging it because of the tone and ID. 😬- 21 replies
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F350Platinum replied to F350Platinum's topic in Metal Detecting For Jewelry
Yep, me too. That will be worth the cost. In value it paid for my detector and parking 🤣- 21 replies
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F350Platinum replied to F350Platinum's topic in Metal Detecting For Jewelry
Apparently the money doesn't stop flowing for the rings either! Sounds like your daughter did well. 👍- 21 replies
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Thanks strick, I read somewhere on this site that Texas A&M rings are the biggest, I was shocked to say the least. At least the Barbie had all her clothes and shoes on, she was in great shape. I think the little girl was pretty happy. I was getting pretty bummed by the time I dug the ring, it was at the furthest I felt like going in the second section. I needed room in my detecting pouch, after the ring I just felt like giving stuff away 🤔 I got rid of all my GI Joes at about 8, probably shouldn't have because they would be insanely valuable now 🤣- 21 replies
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I promised another forum here that I was going to go out and test a new Beta version of the Deus 2 software, so I loaded up the D2 with the 13", my scoop and other gear and went to the beach. I got there early, and pretty much knew it would be a dry sand hunt today, the tide was near high. In total I hunted 3 beaches today, it's all technically one beach but it's in 3 sections, and I have to move and park at each. Parking is $3 an hour now. I got a typical day's worth of stuff there, here's the trash: A bit more than usual but I won't bore you with the details of testing new detector programming. 🤔 These are my finds, missing a Barbie and a Hot Wheels truck I gave away: It's definitely Hot Wheel season! 🤣 $1.93 in change, 24 coins, one might be an IHP but it's too worn. Tiny smiley face charm. 🙂 So why the hell did I name this post the way I did? I was finishing up the second beach, digging all the usual suspects, and got this very strong tone and an ID of 82 that just wouldn't change, like some of the coins I found. I thought "Oh, another Zincoln" 🙄 This is why you should dig Zincolns: A 10k Texas A&M University ring. It's for a person in the Military, apparently a Cadet. This ring is just plain enormous, it fits me perfectly but it is very heavy and solid. Solid 10k, no stone. A ring like this would cost you over 2,000 dollars right now. It has Hallmarks, and an engraved name. I couldn't believe my eyes when I put it on my scale: Almost 33 grams, 5g more than an ounce! It's melt value alone is over $1500 right now. Be all this as it may, it's going to be returned to the owner, @ColonelDan is helping me locate the soldier. Here is a cool website about these rings: https://www.aggienetwork.com/traditionsthroughtime/strengthaggiering/ This is now the biggest gold ring I have ever found, it was 6-8" down in the dry sand. I can't imagine how the person who lost it must have felt. I think I'll change my middle name to "Lucky". 🍀
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It's only speculation at this point, but it seems to me that the HF2 combo would probably be the best bet, due to its wider range of capability. Under the new Beta software, the 9" round coil did not get much increased functionality. I have an Equinox 600, and when a 9.5x5" elliptical came out for it I put it on and never took it off. Personally I prefer an elliptical coil to a round one. I have little doubt that XP has thought this one out, and the HF2 will prove to be a winner. 🤔
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I've always had Silencer at 0, never saw a need for any change to that. 🤔 Could be I'll make it less. I might turn FE TID off, but even with Bottlecaps at 5, I come back with lots of nickels and even gold if it's there. Taking the 13" to the beach tomorrow for a dry sand test. I'll mess with some of this stuff. Thanks for the info. 👍
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XP Announces New HF2 Coil For Deus 2
F350Platinum replied to F350Platinum's topic in XP Deus II Forum
Welcome to the forum. 🙂 It took quite a long time to really understand the Deus 2, but for me it has been well worth it. I think browsing the information in this forum particularly will get you will on your way. 👍 There isn't much about prospecting with it yet, but I'm hoping there will be. You might want to post a meet and greet and tell us a bit about what your experience is, and what you hope to do with your new detector. -
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F350Platinum replied to F350Platinum's topic in XP Deus II Forum
I took the Manticore to the same beach today, and using its deepest settings (One Tone, 30 sensitivity) I found... ... Absolutely nothing else. FWIW, the new D2 software is, at present, pretty darn good, although I'm concerned with the "cut-outs". I'm going to take it to another beach soon with the 13x11", pretty much dry beach because the tides right now are not favorable. Should be a good hunt anyway because of events happening in my area right now. 🍀 -
Nice large date seated, NJ! I Know how you feel, I whined about not finding any Barber coins, and just this year got one in my oldest permission. It's a big field so anything goes I guess 🤷♂️ Your 1917s is fairly common, but the large date Seated is pretty scarce. Congrats!
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Saw a post where another user scooped the availability of the Deus 2 V3.02 software, I happened to have a spare RC unit on a shaft with the 9" coil rigged up for water with the antenna, so it was a no brainer to just go ahead and update the RC, and the spare WSA II headphones I have. It took 3 attempts, but I got the RC done, and the headphones updated the first time. It wasn't hard to put my programs back in, both Beach and Relic, I didn't really notice any major differences in the menus. Nothing at all, actually. Everything was where it was before. I quickly threw everything in the truck along with my scoop and went to the beach. Beautiful day today, and ironically it was also just minutes from low tide when I got there. 🥳 I started out in the water, and immediately noticed the difference in the software - the machine was much quieter in the water, it still has the spurious blips and some bump sensitivity, but hey, sensitivity was 93. Otherwise It was silent. It was even more silent on the beach at sensitivity 95, I couldn't be more thrilled. 🙂 There is no EMI at this beach, and no black sand today. The recent rain even kept the jellyfish to a minimum, so I went in barefoot knee deep. Some of the targets were pretty deep, but the jury is out on depth. 🤔 Here's the trash: At reactivity of 2 and AR at 6, I was quite pleased at the loud response of the detector even over the tiny stuff. One piece of iron in the photo went off loudly, but I couldn't find it with the pinpointer! It really found some small stuff. 👍 I got some light iron tones in the dry, and dug a couple of toys: They're plastic except for a spring in one and screws in the other. Tiny screws. Higher on the beach I found a few coins: They were the same IDs as usual, 84 for Zincolns, and 63 for the nickel. I don't do air tests, I was going to drop a nickel, quarter, dime and penny on the sand, but I'll let y'all do that, I prefer finds in situ. 😏 I did have one issue, 3 times the detector stopped working, I had to wait for the coil to be rediscovered and reconnected. It just dropped out. At first I thought it was my antenna, but one time I saw the reconnect so this beta is definitely a beta 🙄. I have no idea what causes it. Pinpointing is better, audio is louder, I was using the 9" so I nailed the targets mostly on the first scoop. 👍 The one thing that really impressed me so far is the stability, the increased volume, and pinpointing seems more accurate. It also really finds small stuff! More to come, I'll be taking it out for a relic hunt soon. 🍀
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Thanks, I was in a hurry, corrected. 🙂 Out on the beach with it now!