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Still cheaper than a GPX 6000 battery, will last on the detector for about 14 hours, when the 6000 batteries will last under half that run time, and has a whole lot of features the 6000 batteries don't, super build quality, waterproofing, and bomb and bullet proof 🙂 I guess we're just used to paying too much for Minelab gear, so their batteries prices are OK.

Coiltek advertised their AI coil as having a 5% hit from the DD of the same size, although the extra gain you could run with it more than made up for that so by running the gain much higher in high EMI areas you were gaining performance not hindering it with the AI coil. I can run my AI coil directly under powerlines with the detector maxed out on sensitivity and it's stable. I never liked Cancel mode, cuts out all smaller targets, but I guess if you're hoard hunting that wouldn't be too much of an issue for you. It will be good to hear how the Detech AI coil goes, keep us updated.

It's a shame you found it fiddly to change coils on, takes a few seconds longer than a GPX shaft as you do have to line it up and as I've pointed out you can just put a GPX lower shaft onto it if that really bothers someone. I don't find it all that hard, but I've changed coils a whole lot of times now so had a lot of experience doing it. I'm guessing the SDC is easier to change coils on? There is absolutely no cable bump noise where it enters the controller on mine, I hope you didn't have a faulty coil, detector or perhaps you didn't do the cable up tight enough, if secure the contacts can't move thereby causing a bump noise, this goes on every detector. I can make my GPZ and GPX have bump noise if I don't do the cable up tight. Also, the cable noise of it being detected by the coil is a positive for sensitivity of the detector, not a negative and with the coils you were using on it I'm very surprised you had much of a problem with this as they're not sensitive enough to even experience it, the Sadie only responds if the coil cable near touches the coil, not when it's secured on the shaft as it should be and the large coils shouldn't pose a problem there.

Thanks for the tip off Jeff, they seem great and similar really for cheaper prices. POWER BANK | Stealth Angel Survival

You're one step ahead of me already Doc, I've never had the pleasure of using one of your covers. Your covers sound like they will do the trick just nicely. I now know the quality of your products, second to none, your control pod cover looks great, and good for beach hunters to keep the salt off, the battery cover I think is near vital for the Algo to protect it and hold it tight into place and if you do it right it will be a hit. The Algo is so light it's not top heavy like the Gold Monster and detectors that like to fall over, I thought its little feet were an odd choice but thus far I've found it a very easy to put down detector that likes to sit upright, so hopefully the battery cover and pod covers you design don't change that. I have no concerns about your ability to do great products, you're an innovator for sure and will likely exceed my expectations.

Calm down ladies, if this was a Minelab battery it would be using USB-ML not USB-C with a funky connector that is different to anything you've seen before🙂 They would put a chip in the battery so it can only power the Equinox, Manticore and other Minelab USB powered detectors, Its plastic would resemble the Strawberry Ice Cream container you opened to tuck into your desert tonight and last but not least the USB-ML connector would twist wildly when you tried to plug your USB-ML cable into it. This thing is cheap compared to a Minelab battery for the 5000, 6000 or 7000. 😁

yea, it's nuts, the Manticore cost me far more than the Algo with a coil and battery.

Might be best to wait until they hit the USA, DD Leather in OZ that make most the GPX and GPZ covers people use in AU/NZ are looking at making covers for it too, so you'd have competition in this part of the world. The battery cover I think is the most important cover, and it has to be super lightweight, or it just makes a light detector heavy.

In theory it should handle coils better than the detector they were designed for as it calibrates to the coil so slightly out of whack coils can work better than they normally would. All good posts above though.

I've got two batteries for my Algoforce so far, both work great but I've discovered they make battery banks for a tough life, and well, at least for me that's hanging off the bottom of my metal detector and seeing I like my Algo so much I'm going to treat it to a tough battery Dark Energy Poseidon PRO Power Bank Portable Charger Kit - Survival Supplies Australia It's about double the price of a normal one, if not more, but it's made for the outdoors even being waterproof IP68 Poseidon Pro – Dark Energy It claims to hold a charge for 8 years. The video is funny, they blow it up, shoot it, drown it, you name it and it survives.... and all this and it's significantly cheaper than a Minelab battery 🙂

yea, they're in a figure 8 but only run properly in DD mode on the GPX, should plug one in and see if it calibrates, I'll do it today sometime when I find the coil in the tubs of coils 🙂

Nope, Coiltek AI coils need to run in DD mode on the GPX, so they're not going to be an ideal coil, likely one that won't calibrate, or if it does calibrate will just be weird running as a mono.

There are detector coil cables on Aliexpress, they have GM1000, GPZ, GPX 6000 etc. Applicable to metal detector: gpz7000 sdc2300 gold monster 1000 (aliexpress.com) I haven't seen an Equinox one, but I haven't tried to find one either.

Yes, it always helps to turn something on 🙂

Yes, I would imagine so, you only need to take your control pod, so pop it off and take it along with the supplied USB C to A cable that your battery normally plugs into, you won't need battery as the computer powers it to do the update, plug the USB A end into the library computer, download the flash tool, USB driver and the firmware and it will be pretty easy for you. You just run the UBS driver, then flash tool, select the firmware file that you download and click the update, my video shows a lot of the process. It's very easy, as soon as it says it's completed you can disconnect the detector and you're good to go.

Yes, it will work fine, won't be as sensitive to tiny stuff as the more modern spiral coils though, looks a nice light coil, I have the 16" round version of the Gold Stalker mono's and it works well. I think it would make a good patch finder.

Very true, the 6000 is one of those machines you can get your pick amazingly close to, as is the Algoforce and I suspect the SDC2300, all the machines geared more towards smaller gold, the earlier GPX series on the other hand, keep that pick well away! Put the GPX 5000 with an 11" mono into Coin and Relic timing and put it up against the Manticore with 11" stock coil on a coin and see the results! Unfortunately Jeff you won't benefit from this Coin and Relic timing, it only works in mild soil environments, it's only on the 4800 and 5000 too.

I would say the 10" Spiral X-coil as it's handled everything I've thrown at it and is super sensitive to small stuff being a full spiral but seeing it's not sold at the moment it's the NF 8x6" Sadie for its size and nice edge sensitivity for rocky bushy areas and NF 14x9" EVO for general use out of the coils I've tried, I'd love to try the Coiltek 9" Spiral Elite though, I think it'd be great. I have plenty of coils I liked on my GPX though so I've got a fair few to try out yet, part of the fun of getting a new detector 🙂 I haven't messed around much with bigger coils on it at this stage other than seeing that they calibrate fine. The next spot I intend to hit is a black sand beach with a 15x10" Spiral and 12" Spiral, might also take the Coiltek Goldstalker 16" mono just in case for a bit of a play but of course that's more for the coin and jewellery side of it, it's nice to have a PI so resistant to EMI to even use on the beaches with a mono. It kind of feels like I'm doing something wrong plugging these mono GPX coils into the Algo, the detector looks and feels so much like a VLF, yet I'm putting these GPX coils on it 🙂

Some great reports are coming in from Aussies using the Algoforce on Facebook, particularly in regards to handling ground, it's running over hardpack ironstone like a dream and no issues with the red and orange clays in Victoria, the guy was finding bits around Bendigo. None of this surprises me.

The real big benefit is to those that already have stuff, like coils, headphones and well, batteries are a non-issue really as for once batteries for a detector are extremely cheap, not some custom-made thing to suit only that detector and you can really just get away with a 10000 mAh battery as it will last longer than a normal day. Power Bank 10K | Belkin US $30 sure isn't going to break the bank for a good quality day long power bank 🙂 Fortunately, legacy GPX coils are pretty cheap, I can really only see most people needing two coils for it, a NF Sadie and a NF 14x9" EVO or 14x9" Coiltek Elite out of the coils on the market currently still available would be my picks but there are just so many options for good coils, Detech tend to be cheaper too and make great coils. Unless the manufacturer is willing to take a bit of a hit on profits, I'd guess the USA pricing will be $1600 USD, as they have transportation costs to get it there. I can see someone being setup ready to roll for under $2000 USD.

I think the Algoforce build quality is superior to the 6000, although that wouldn't be too hard. The cam locks are so much better than the junk on the 6000, in fact they're the best I've seen for cam locks with a nice rubber grip coating on them too for doing them up, not just plastic. No shaft twist at all, regardless of coil size. The screen is great, buttons are nice to press. Headphone port has a little water-resistant cover which can be removed if necessary but also dangles there if you want it to which is a nice little feature. JW does indeed have an SDC, if it still works, been in his garage for a decade or so unused as he doesn't like it much at all, it's just not a good detector in milder soils, the advantage it gives to those in tougher soils hinder it in milder soils. I think it will end up Minelab's answer to the E1500 though, they'll wait a few months to see if the E1500 is creating waves and if it is the SDC will go on sale and just remain that way. I don't think they'll pop out with a new detector quickly, they're very slow at everything, the times we think they're fast is when development of something has been ongoing in the background with no hints its coming like the X-terra Pro, but when something is in the pipeline like the Manticore and it's coils it takes them forever to get them to market, and then in small numbers. Thinking they'll pop out with a detector to combat it in a few months with no awareness they even had to do so prior is expecting far too much from them. It was probably a bad time for them to discontinue the Legacy GPX series, unless they're planning on re-housing it into a modern design, that'd be a pretty cool detector if they did as long as they didn't mess with coil compatibility at the same time, I wouldn't put it past them.

I hear this all the time, yet I don't agree especially when people state they are equal, as someone that tinkers a bit with mild soil situations all I see is PI goes deeper in very mild soils, noticeably deeper especially on larger targets like coins, on tiny gold PI and VLF are similar in depth but the bigger the target gets and using a coin as an example the PI wins, a coin on edge the VLF may catch up again a bit. Some VLF's like the Manticore and CTX and gaining ground a bit but they are still not at PI / Mild soil depths.

He's got a box for the 15x12", the bundled ones don't come with a box, wouldn't be my pick of coil for it. I hope it's not a scam and a lot of people are in queue waiting for one so it will get snapped up pretty quick. Puzzles me he found it too hard to use. Either way, probably found what he uses a detector for he preferred his SDC. There's been a lot of talk about if it's better than the SDC, I guess this guy think's it's not.

I wonder if you're right, that the E1500 is going to punch the SDC2300 in the face, it looks like it from my hot rock and bad ground testing so far, although I've not used an SDC before it's doing better than other detectors I have used, I'm balancing out crazy hot rocks in its ultra fine gold mode.

yep, was more pointing out they don't need to be like Quest and avoid the US in case the legal stuff happens, as they're already selling in the home land of Minelab so if it was going to happen anywhere it would be there.