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I certainly am, I learnt some time ago the quick noise cancels do next to nothing, I don't trust them at all. I like the good hearty old fashion wait a minute noise cancels as I genuinely believe they do something, these 1-2 second instant noise cancels I believe do next to nothing and just randomly select a channel and they expect you to keep pressing it until it clears up. I even preferred the older detectors with the frequency shift option instead of noise cancel as it also genuinely worked. I find the Manticore long noise cancel quite good, it really does settle on a channel and if you press it again and wait it often settles on the same channel which is a good indicator it's doing something, if doing it and it settled on random channels I wouldn't trust it near as much. I am in very mild soil, I've never met a detector that actually gives feedback on my ground prior to balancing, I do however out of best practice do a ground balance. I just think the Manticore is a different beast to the Equinox, it's sensitivity scale appears to be different as if I was to set the sensitivity level as low as I do with the Manticore, both using 11" coils I can make coins completely disappear on the Equinox that the Manticore can find. Perhaps it's not the scale that's different and it's just a more powerful deeper detector on these coin size targets, I think the only people that REALLY know are the geniuses sitting in an office in Adelaide Australia that designed and coded the thing. The more I learn and fiddle with it the more I appreciate it's advantages over the Equinox, especially as a coin and jewellery detector, not so sure about prospecting but it's very early days and with that opinions can change overnight.

It's GotAU gets the credit for this one, I've since changed mine to the correct size O-ring and now I can use my shaft just as if the o-ring wasn't there and its just as easy to adjust as original but I have next to no twist at all, it takes a lot to cause twisting. Perfect solution, it seems like the shaft was made to have the o-rings in there.

Yes, less is more when it comes to Manticore sensitivity. Cranking it right up is counter productive. It's plenty deep on lower sensitivity settings. The Nox 800 lost depth quite quickly on lower sensitivity levels, I'm not seeing that with the Manticore.

All you need to do is a buy a Simplex+, it's audio sounds like a duck being tortured.

yea, their long range detector range looks fantastic. this gadget is a detectorists dream, jam some probes into the ground, fire up your detector and find gold with the minerals eliminated from the soil! FALSE SIGNAL ELIMINATOR A false signal eliminator is produced to eliminate the mineral problem which is the biggest problem for treasure seekers. Eliminator eliminates the effects of minerals that people who seek treasure by using metal detectors, field scanning, and 3D imaging devices. The eliminator generates a magnetic field on precious metals by emitter signals sent to earth by the magnetic field. In this way, this increases the depth of detection of precious metals with metal detectors used in treasure searches. It increases the magnetic field level on the target and causes a depth increase in the detection performance of the detector. They'll make a gadget for everything if it makes money.

Have you tried another coil?

That is really cool thanks

Odd, I believe the 16x10" has got test coils floating around. But yes, hand making coils is very time consuming. Usually around a week from start to finish for the GPZ coils I'm told.

In this video it looks a bit too good to be a fake product

I know the feeling, these were certainly found in a place the 14" DD was beneficial. I just wish there was a smaller DD. No headphones for me, this was speaker!

I like to know where the stuff I buy comes from, It's been pretty interesting to look up the manufacturer addresses of products and see their factories. Nokta make great products so I figured I'd take a look where they come from. Nokta Detectors's headquarters are located at no4 Emek Mah Sivatyolu Cad Sakiz Sok, Sarigazi, Istanbul, 34785, Turkey A quick Google street view and up pops their factory. I wonder if in that cage on the front of it is a load of Legends on their way to dealers. It's quite a big build too, you can see it here So now we know where Nokta detectors come from. Wishing our friends in Türkiye (Turkey) the best, they just had a big 7.8 earthquake, not near Nokta fortunately but still sad to hear, hopefully it's not too bad. 😞

I think you can pin the blame on the dealer not Garrett, the dealer orders the stock they want, and think they can sell. Garrett Australia is not Garrett the US company. They obviously didn't think they'd need the receiver. Garrett doesn't force a dealer to carry stock, I'm sure it was an option for them to import from day 1, they probably just didn't realise they'd need it. I agree though Northeast, it would seem logical to provide the receiver as part of the kit, especially for the price of the detector in our region.

I'm confident they're not aligned.

I've been playing with the Manticore quite a bit, I can't do much digging unfortunately as we are in a drought and the grass is a bit dry and brown, if I start digging up the fields I'll be causing damage which I don't want to do as I want to maintain my access to these areas without causing trouble so I've just been finding targets with the Vanquish or Equinox 800 and comparing results. The Vanquish is and has always been my best cherry picker out of the multi-IQ machines, its jewellery mode and EMI handling is just great around here, perhaps its the v12 elliptical coil helping I don't know but it is always the most accurate with ID's on these deep coin targets, and that's still showing now. I wish the Nox had the Vanquish coils. The Manticore is actually doing better with EMI than the Equinox, mainly because I can run the Manticore in lower sensitivity settings and still get the depth, where the Nox starts to drop off the Target in lower sensitivity the Manticore is still doing great at 14 sensitivity, these are coin targets at 20-30cm deep (8 to 12 inches), I have dug a couple of targets just to be sure what I was finding but I'm purposefully not digging much at all unless in a spot I'm not concerned about the ground like in the dirt car parking areas. The 2D Target trace is working very well, ID stability although not quite Vanquish is doing pretty good on lower sensitivity settings, if I try go over 16 to 18 the stability of ID's drops away, this is in All Terrain General, in Beach mode I can have 25 sensitivity and still maintain stable ID's on the same targets. The fields I'm detecting are in a town that does have quite a bit of EMI even underground powerlines under the field, outside of the town area I may not see this Target ID instability in the higher sensitivities, I'll find out with time when I try it in more places, it's just hard at the moment as I can't really dig anywhere where I'd find good stuff with the dry ground so it's not worth going anywhere further away. I may have to wait until a change of seasons before I can go and see if the Manticore will find me anymore silvers in my fields I've missed with the Vanquish/Nox and then CTX. It's certainly showing promising depth, it is deeper than the Equinox and Vanquish, that I'm sure of. I'm not so sure it's deeper than the CTX though, I can't lift the Manticore coil off the ground and still get good hits on deep targets like I can the CTX so in long grass the CTX is likely to be the better choice for me. Plenty to learn with the Manticore, I'm much happier with it now I know to keep my sensitivity lower and I won't be missing these deeper targets by doing so, it really has improved the Target ID a lot by doing that. So far so good, really like the Manticore.

Minelab may have opened a can of worms now with all these Youtubers making sensationalist claims to attract attention and try go viral hoping Minelab will respond to them. Views = $$$$$

I improved my T2's shielding by using extra layers of conductive shielding paint, painting the ground wire into the paint to secure rather than just the masking tape Teknetics used. I did the same with my Gold Bug Pro which for some reason I can't find photos of but for it I added some copper tape instead and grounded it with a wire to the PCB's ground, it didn't have any shielding paint on it's plastic so obviously it didn't come with a shield wire to the housing. It seemed to make a reasonable difference to both of them. As with everything EMI it's hard to definitively tell if you made a difference but it sure felt like it did as I was able to run it in higher gain before I had problems. Stock from factory, I'd already removed the shield wire which was masking taped onto the plastic housing in this photo. It has a thin layer of conductive paint on the plastic from the factory which looked like it was sprayed on. A new thick layer of shielding paint just after being freshly painted. This is the paint I used. Shield wire back on after paints dried, the shield wire was painted on to hold it in place, don't know why I bothered putting the masking tape back on as I ended up putting hot glue over top anyway to hold it secure. In saying all this, the conductive paint on the inside of the GPX 6000 shell is likely sufficient. It handles powerline EMI much better than I expected it to. This is the copper tape I used on the Gold Bug Pro.

You couldn't be more right, the stand on the Deus 1 is incredibly useless, I have no idea how they could sell a metal detector with a stand that doesn't even touch the ground. A good idea, I'll have a look for something similar locally. Thanks.

You could wrap your control box in aluminum foil and find out, it's always best when connected to the floating ground though to get best results, not sure the easiest temporary way to do that, perhaps when screwing up your coil get a little bit of the foil screwed into the socket obviously nowhere near the wires as that could go badly, just in the thread. I suspect most of the EMI is coming in from the coil and you can't do much about that, although it's why we are finding smaller coils working better in high EMI... smaller antenna. The 10x5" actually works quite well in high EMI areas on the 6000, the NF 8.5x6 Z-Search will be pretty damn good when it comes out for EMI areas, looking forward to that coil. I will try zero threshold next time, thanks for the tip Ron. The 14" DD works well, it's just a bit awkward and not ideal in many places due to it's size. It really makes the 6000 lose its weight advantage too. Hopefully Coiltek come out with the small DD they've eluded to. The 6000 surprised me with how good it works near power lines considering it's a GPX especially after the audio fix, it's not GPZ good but it does a pretty good job considering, even with the mono coils.

Yes, lower weighted frequencies seem to use more power. This is from the XP Deus 1 manual as an example as they outline it, look at all the different battery life changes between different modes Have a look at 4kHz with TX Boost, only 6 hours battery life when if you use it at 80kHz looking for Nuggets you'll get 25 hours, a substantial difference. Looking for high conductors will be using low frequencies, thereby using more power, I think with the Manticore it goes as low as 2.7kHz from memory too.

If it is a fake they've put a lot more effort in than normal, they have written software based upon the Nox software by the looks of it to run the thing. I like the little Notching bar across the top, the full scale of target ID's like the Nox 900 too. Minelab have got a lot to worry about if they're doing fakes like this, if it performs reasonably well they'll market it to the right countries at the right price and sell a lot of them. If its a real test one or something leaked it's a puzzle where it fits into their lineup. The shaft shape is a copy of the Vanquish, much better idea than a round shaft I think. Don't know why they insist of doing round.

That's so bizarre, it looks like it might be genuine. It's so much like an Equinox 700/900 in design yet it's not multi-IQ, just switchable single frequency so it's going for the lower end of the market, perhaps to combat the Simplex price range. It looks like it would be priced above the Vanquish being waterproof and a better build quality yet I think I'd rather use a Vanquish to get multi-IQ. I first thought maybe some sort of clone as the Chinese cloners duplicated the X-terra 705 near perfectly some time ago but it really looks like it's a new model. They're saying salt water capability too, on a single frequency machine who knows. Maybe it's coming in when the Equinox 600 and 800 get discontinued when stock runs out. I just can't see where it would fit in price wise to the range. Can't see any obvious spelling errors on the box to indicate a fake 🙂 At least it's a detector I don't need to buy, that's a relief.

I bought one of them Rodworthy shields for my GPX 4500 as it was rotten near power lines, it's now on my GPX 5000, they actually do work, I was surprised as I thought they might be a gimmick. I also put a small wire from the Rodworthy cover to a screw on the front of the 5000 holding the end plate on which I know those screws connect to the sheilding ensuring the cover itself had connection to the shield of the detector for extra measure. I could even run other detectors closer to it which is easy to verify.

I hunted right under and around high voltage lines with the 14" DD, it worked reasonably well and I was quite happy with it, I kept my sensitivity on manual 7 and was viable. The little Coiltek 10x5" had a go too, it was barely worse than the DD and worked pretty well, I guess the smaller size. Yes it was affected but it was usable. I just left the threshold on, didn't even bother with it off as I was happy enough with it on. The 6000 is surprisingly good at power lines compared to older GPX models. For powerline hunting though nothing beats the GPZ with the 15" Concentric coil, Another good alternative is the GPX 5000 with an Anti Interference coil like the 11" Coiltek AI if the targets are a bit bigger. The 40kHz Gold Monster is a good option too, or the Nox in 40kHz if soil conditions allow it. I hunt around power lines quite a bit, mostly high voltage ones too so this is of particular interest to me.

You could contact Garrett NZ and see if they'll ship it over, crazy if they won't. Worth a shot.

The only way you can buy a WR-1 in New Zealand is to buy the full Z-lynk kit. https://www.garrettnewzealand.co.nz/garrett-z-lynk-wireless-system/ $350 NZD though, pretty pricey. Garrett should include the WR-1 in the kit especially for the International version seeing with exchange rates we pay so much more for it than US customers. Give a little bonus to the international market with the higher pricing. I still think the Quest Wirefree mate is the best alternative for audio on the market. https://phasetechnical.com.au/product/quest-wirefree-mate-kit/ $150 AUD, be done with everything else, it works and it works well..