jasong Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 I'm guessing asking in person is the only real way to have success. A lot of what I did was via mail or over the phone since I was working every day in the oilfield and couldn't travel except on days off. But on the selling and losing permission thing - one thing I've noticed that is happening now which wasn't happening anywhere close to as much 10-15 years ago due to the country demographics/age is a ton of land is getting inherited down and then later sold. I see a lot of land owned by kids now who will never see or even visit the land (by kids I mean people in their 40's/50's now but children of the owners who wouldn't give permission). So it's worth the time to pursue permissions again probably. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesD Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Jason, My experience with some of the new generation is they are more paranoid of liability issues, whereas the old timer nearing the end of the road, dont care no more, and says have at it. Of course there are cranky ol codgers too. Had a few go frothing mad just for asking permission. Its a funny wold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry in Idaho Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I don't feel a different coil is needed for nuggets vs specimens. I think (could be wrong) the original source of the gold from thousands of years ago is what dictates if the gold is in nugget or specimen form. On many occasions the specimens when slowly working their way down the river systems, start breaking apart to allow for some smaller solid nuggets coming off the larger specimens. For example, in Southern Idaho we have thousands of tiny picker nuggets and 100's of ounces of the well known flower gold or dust. Our potato specimens eventually turn to dust over time. In Northern Idaho and Eastern Oregon, they had bigger veins of gold so the chances of bigger nuggets and more solid specimens have been recovered with detectors. We still prefer the faster and lighter VLF type detectors with stock size coils. Realize a small pea nugget will eventually work it's way down into the tailing piles and be out of reach of most VLF types, so that's why I normally spend my time in tailings chasing bigger gold. As Steve mentioned. Study the area and know the kind and size of gold being recovered in that area. Then match the coil size to the size of gold you wish to hunt and match the size of gold to the size of tailings. Big cobbles are the least productive, but on a rare occasion the biggest of finds. It there is exposed bedrock, that is the site I put the small coil to get the little pickers. It does not matter is it's a specimen or nugget, a VLF hits them both well. 3 gram nuggets and up, I feel the stock coil on most detectors is sufficient, unless you know your buddies have cleaned it with stock, then try something different. In the pics, you'll see I'm detecting golf ball to fist size rock piles using a VLF EQ-800 with the larger 15x12" Coil. I typically use the stock 11" coil for these piles, but my hunting buddies spent a summer on it with their stock coils so I had to try something different. You can see in the rock piles, trying to find a grain of rice piece of gold is almost worthless, so I don't even attempt it at this kind of location. Good Luck. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSC Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Thanks Gerry, hope that rock taste good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Steven Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 Gerry: Thank you for our insight and advice. Greatly appreciated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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