midalake Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 10 hours ago, Bill (S. CA) said: This is really fascinating stuff. How high do you run your sensitivity when hunting this way and any other settings different than the pre-sets that I should be aware of? I'm very curious to try this out the next time I'm at the beach. I can run sensitivity between 20 and 24, depending on Black sand. IB, and recovery both at 6. IB the original f-6. I do run 1 or 2 points of threshold [it seems to enhance deep targets] and really even with the good headphones I have you cannot hear the threshold at 1 or 2. Because it is going to sound like a new world to you> hearing everything even Black Sand ticks try not to run the sensitivity at your max. Run it pretty clean and if you get a deep target [and are unsure] then bump the sens 1or2 to look at just that target. Once you get a hang for the single, double ring targets, then increase your sens. One more point, good coil control is needed to hear the double ring, you have to swing slow over the target and be centered best as possible. It is OK to have have a half fast regular swing but when you get a hit [slow down] It is real easy to know where the center of the target is in horseshoe mode, and you will never need to use pinpoint again! I really don't like Beach 1 and never hunt it. I can get much more sensitivity and less falsing in beach 2. Sensitivity wins with the equinox. What sensitivity range are you hunting now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger-NH Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 midalake said: "It is OK to have have a half fast regular swing but when you get a hit [slow down] It is real easy to know where the center of the target is in horseshoe mode, and you will never need to use pinpoint again!" People have told me that my swing is half fast, but I never knew what they meant by it. ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill (S. CA) Posted August 15, 2022 Author Share Posted August 15, 2022 Midalake, This is brilliant stuff. Here in S. CA falsing in Beach 1 isn't an issue so I run it most of the time. It seems to get better depth in discriminate. I run my IB, recovery and sensitivity the same as you. Thanks for the tip about this being a whole new world. I'm going to try this the next time I hit the beach and will let you know how it goes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midalake Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Bill (S. CA) said: Here in S. CA falsing in Beach 1 isn't an issue so I run it most of the time. But letting me know your current sensitivity range tells me what your conditions is. After all I can get Beach 1 to hunt quiet, but the sensitivity is not acceptable. Are you able to hunt 21 sensitivity and over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger-NH Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Bill (S. CA) said: It seems to get better depth in discriminate. The horseshoe button shouldn't have any affect on depth. All it does is turn the low tones on or off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill (S. CA) Posted August 15, 2022 Author Share Posted August 15, 2022 2 hours ago, midalake said: But letting me know your current sensitivity range tells me what your conditions is. After all I can get Beach 1 to hunt quiet, but the sensitivity is not acceptable. Are you able to hunt 21 sensitivity and over? I generally can get to 22 before it gets chirpy. Most often I settle in at 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midalake Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Bill (S. CA) said: I generally can get to 22 before it gets chirpy. Most often I settle in at 20. OK, on those days where you can only do 20 sens, don't be afraid to run the same settings in Beach 2. You should be able to at least run 22 in Beach2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midalake Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Badger-NH said: The horseshoe button shouldn't have any affect on depth. All it does is turn the low tones on or off. I prove this wrong at every hunt with nonferrous targets. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Goldman Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 59 minutes ago, midalake said: OK, on those days where you can only do 20 sens, don't be afraid to run the same settings in Beach 2. You should be able to at least run 22 in Beach2. It’s surprising that such an incremental increase in sensitivity could overcome the inherent raw depth loss in Beach 2 due to the lower transmit power (to increase black sand stability) associated with that mode. Though ML has never actually quantified the magnitude of the transmit power reduction in Beach 2 (or Overload for that matter) compared to Beach 1 or the non-beach/non-gold modes (i.e., Park/Field). Can’t argue with field results, though. Dave, I’ve never known you to be someone who knowingly puts themselves at a settings “disadvantage” under real world conditions as you settle in on settings that work best for you after many hours of real world trial and error. One thing I have never really understood is what you describe as a “double hit” as a telltale for 100% ferrous targets. Does that happen with shallow/big ferrous due to coil edge sensitivity or what? (I do understand what you mean by 360 degree ferrous target breakdown). Further explanation would be helpful. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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