Axiom Vs GPX 5000

[Gerry in Idaho]

Great points have been brought up and I agree with most.

I'll go over a few things I prefer the Axiom vs a GPX-5000 overall.

Axiom faster Turn on and Go.

Axiom lighter and easier to handle and swing.

Axiom requires no harness to be tethered to.

Axiom is more Sensitive to smaller gold and specimens (even bigger ones the GPX-5000 can not see - trust me).

Axiom is more compact and easier to store or take on a bike, motorcycle and plane.

Axiom accessories, coils and batteries are prices more reasonable.  $440 for a GPX-5000 battery is stupid.

Axiom is much more User friendly and fun to use.

Axiom is better weatherproofing and waterproof coils as Minelab GPX-5000 coils are not WP.

Axiom is made in America

Axiom comes with wireless system

Axiom is much easier to use with a VLF on your side or back.

Not saying the 10+ year old GPX-5000 is no good, heck I've dug many nuggets with it.  But I didn't have the option to use an Axiom back then for $4000.  The GPX-5000 was $5800.  Today, both are priced at $4000 and if Military, take an additional 15% off.  5000 is a known CW relic detector top machine and I think the Axiom will get there, but it's a matter of time.

Not telling you to get the Axiom as you already know the 5000 and more than likely have all the coils and accessories paid for.  I guess at this pint it's a matter of if you want swing with a new girl on the dance floor for a while.

What I see with most of have a GPX-5000.  The majority don't know all the Settings and what they are doing.  Too many options of Settings and they get overwhelmed.  It's actually a pretty easy detector and performance on dense gold is tops.

[mn90403]

Let's mention some numbers on this thread.

What can I get for my 5000 right now?  What if I throw in 5-6 coils?  How much will it cost to ship all that to someone who would pay the highest price on eBay?

What would a dealer give me for a trade in on an Axiom?

These numbers can influence a decision more than performance so I stick with my 5000 that I rarely use but then how much would I use a new Axiom?  Will it make more time in my schedule to go to placers that still have gold?

My priorities right now in order are time, location and detector for nugget hunting.

If I had the time and location, I'd already have the Axiom and keep the 5000!

[mn90403]

I should mention that I have a 7000 also and not just a 5000.

Something else has come to mind since I read Kevin Hoagland's Axiom review.  He mentions at the end that the Axiom is updateable.  Does that make a difference?

It could if it is put into practice differently than Minelab.

Minelab has the ability to update many of its models but they don't.  It seems that Nokta updates often on some of its models.  They also come out with new models.

What if Garrett were to keep their flagship model Axiom current with software updates even after the warranty period?  I would think this would make the resale value higher if you told someone it is current.  If an Axiom held value in addition to 'paying for itself' then this would help my buying decision.

[Steve Herschbach]

Basically what you see is what you get. Update capabilities in general are intended more for bug fixes than for keeping people from ever buying another new detector.

[mn90403]

It would take a different marketing vision to keep the Axiom software platform current even after coming out with new hardware at some point in the future.

Many of the old pre internet detectors could be sent off and modified for better performance.  I have a friend who has the hottest GB2 you can get.  That can't really be updated.  I guess you could say that all of the Minelabs through the 5000 could not be updated with software fixes.

Not being a detector historian, was the 3030 the first Minelab that used an internet connection?  I'm still disappointed in them for dropping the ball on downloading programs and find locations to be shared with the 7000 but those connections didn't affect the performance.

I would consider paying for a subscription type of detector that allowed me to download different programs or aps that would work with my hardware.  I know at some point in the future I would have to get new hardware that could handle the more robust programs of the future.

[Gerry in Idaho]

Selling a GPX-5000 right now??? you take a big hit.  Even all the extra coils.  Heck I can't even get 30 cents on the dollar for the coils as so many people (20 yrs worth) have coils in every corner of their garage.  Only the newest of new coils by CT and NF are worth anything.  Used 5000's in the last year typically go for $1500 to $2500, depending on package size/condition/etc.

If I were in the market for new detector only and it was between the Axiom and GPX-5000, I'm going Axiom as I prefer lighter, more compact, much more User Friendly and able to find the smaller gold (more of it still out there) and specimens better than a GPX-5000.

Here's the bottom line.  Some people chase gold with the mindset, a new detector will find them more.  The facts are... The detector one knows best how to operate and maximize, I feel is your best tool.  It's been said before, Proper skill level and technique is more important to newer players than the newest detector.

[mn90403]

Gerry, Gerry, Gerry,

Tell it like it is.

Sell the new detector and people will get lucky believing that there is still gold in a hammered location.  To hell with technique and understanding.

You're a dealer, get with the program!

haha

[Gerry in Idaho]

3 hours ago, mn90403 said:

Gerry, Gerry, Gerry,

Tell it like it is.

Sell the new detector and people will get lucky believing that there is still gold in a hammered location.  To hell with technique and understanding.

You're a dealer, get with the program!

haha

Oh my, I've lost it.

I actually informed folks not to buy the latest and greatest.  And I'm supposed to be a Salesman?  SELL, Sell, sell.

Sorry,  If you don't purchase the next new wiz bang detector from me, you won't find $hit.

[mn90403]

That's hearing it from one salesman to another.  But ... you need to learn how to sell that new chip, that new screen, those new features all over again.  The engineering department is depending on you to keep their jobs.

I know you like to sell The Dream but we've learned a lot from selling computers with more speed over the years so get back to it.

Come to think of it, maybe this job is just too big for dealers.  We'll give all the units over to the Big Box Stores instead.