Tekkna For The Deus 2, First Impression (Updated 3)

[F350Platinum]

37 minutes ago, NCtoad said:

This all with the 13x11 coil!

Hey NC,

Nice bit of pickin' there. ?

Cool you were able to do that with the 13x11", when there's a tremendous amount of junk and nails, the big coil tends to down average, as does the 11", but you can still get great separation in the center. ? I'm sure you've heard the "triple tap" from side to center to side on a single small object in a clear spot. 

When there is dense stuff, the 9" coil sees quite a bit less ground, so it should sniff out even more. I've found I can lower reactivity to 2, I hear a lot more stuff, but you can go higher for the trashy shallow mix.

Despite any complaints I might have about Tekkna, it's definitely a great tool. You do have to force yourself not to dig anything that isn't repeatable in all directions, but if something gives you 50% or more good tones it could be worth a look.

I can pretty much do the same thing with Relic but the extreme sounds are much easier to take with Tekkna.

Did you find you had to lower iron volume? I'm down to 6 or 7 now.

[NCtoad]

1 hour ago, F350Platinum said:

Hey NC,

Nice bit of pickin' there. ?

Cool you were able to do that with the 13x11", when there's a tremendous amount of junk and nails, the big coil tends to down average, as does the 11", but you can still get great separation in the center. ? I'm sure you've heard the "triple tap" from side to center to side on a single small object in a clear spot. 

When there is dense stuff, the 9" coil sees quite a bit less ground, so it should sniff out even more. I've found I can lower reactivity to 2, I hear a lot more stuff, but you can go higher for the trashy shallow mix.

Despite any complaints I might have about Tekkna, it's definitely a great tool. You do have to force yourself not to dig anything that isn't repeatable in all directions, but if something gives you 50% or more good tones it could be worth a look.

I can pretty much do the same thing with Relic but the extreme sounds are much easier to take with Tekkna.

Did you find you had to lower iron volume? I'm down to 6 or 7 now.

Yes, I did lower the iron volume.  I had forgotten about that.  It got a little annoying at time when at 10.  I think I put it down to 7.  

Even though I’ve hit that site many times with the 9” coil, there are instances where a larger coil will unmask a target when the smaller one won’t.  And vice versa. It depends on the distance between the good target and the junk target and the width of the coil.  I learned this from one of Loren Lemke’s (not sure if I’ve spelled his name correctly) videos.  Eventually I’ll get out there with the 9” and the tekkna program and see if anything else pops up.  

[NCtoad]

I think this is that video

 

[palzynski]

3 hours ago, NCtoad said:

Yes, I did lower the iron volume.  I had forgotten about that.  It got a little annoying at time when at 10.  I think I put it down to 7.  

Even though I’ve hit that site many times with the 9” coil, there are instances where a larger coil will unmask a target when the smaller one won’t.  And vice versa. It depends on the distance between the good target and the junk target and the width of the coil.  I learned this from one of Loren Lemke’s (not sure if I’ve spelled his name correctly) videos.  Eventually I’ll get out there with the 9” and the tekkna program and see if anything else pops up.  

Your field results speak for themselves .. Looking fwd to your next outing and the 9"  Tekkna ..

[iron_buzz]

On 3/16/2024 at 11:40 AM, UKD2User said:

I'd strongly argue that filters like Silencer reduce unmasking capability in iron.

Silencer is only supposed to reduce falsing, isn't it? 

[iron_buzz]

On 3/16/2024 at 2:17 PM, Gary XP said:

Great review, thanks for your feedback ??

Gary,

 

I don't think I've heard how you came to hear about Tekkna.  You are certainly the one that has made it a household word but who put it together?

 

Also, (and more importantly) do you know why discrim was set to 42, and not 41 or 43 or some other number?

[iron_buzz]

On 3/17/2024 at 12:30 PM, F350Platinum said:

@simsa, 

Where can we find the settings for Jack Fast?

Thank you for posting these videos. ?

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[UKD2User]

9 hours ago, iron_buzz said:

Silencer is only supposed to reduce falsing, isn't it? 

There's a big difference between falsing and (un)masking.

1) Falsing = iron sounding better than it should (usually because of size/shape/holes/corners/rust).

2) Masking = iron making an adjacent nonferrous target sound worse than it should.

Increasing Silencer will move the decision-point towards iron in both the above types of situation. Silencer will help to reduce falsing but effectively increase masking (a trade-off as per usual). I nearly always use Silencer=0 and use other methods to spot falsing.

[UKD2User]

10 hours ago, iron_buzz said:

Gary,

 

I don't think I've heard how you came to hear about Tekkna.  You are certainly the one that has made it a household word but who put it together?

 

Also, (and more importantly) do you know why discrim was set to 42, and not 41 or 43 or some other number?

I'm not Gary (??) - and I'm sure he can/will speak for himself(!) - but I think it's interesting that if you look at PaystreakSuperfreaks recent YT videos he shows his 'VCO' program which he uses with Disc at 44. Paystreak has clay soil with a lot of iron mineralisation in it - probably a lot more than in most of our soils here in southern England, he also seems to hunt in parks with loads of modern trash and a fair amount of EMI (you could imagine he would want to give his ears an easier time!). He says he uses it as a way to ignore most of the foil and other nuisance signals as a first pass - he then goes back using more 'conventional' Disc settings to find the stuff he missed the first time (ie 'cherrypicking' as I said upthread).

Basically, I don't think there's any magic in a specific Disc number - just a choice based on experience and local conditions (just like everything else in detecting!).