Gerry in Idaho

Not until they get caught up with orders will we start learning the cost of accessories and different coils. Should be hearing something real soon.

Ridge Runner (Chuck) thanks for sharing a nugget of pic. I realize the old days and pics were nothing like we have today. My most memorable times are on 8MM reel when I was a sprout running around on weekends with family and detector in hand. I have no issues with you pic as it brings back memories and that's exactly what this holiday is about, being thankful for so many things, including the early prospects and hard work for the color earned. You name is in the hat my friend. Purplehays69 Now that nugget pic has so many twists and or stories to tell. Oh my I would love to hear just half of the history it could speak. I'll have to look up the mention. Yes there's way more history across that Black Rock desert than many who travel through each day have no clue. Did they happen to fit?🤣.Your name is in the hat my friend. LuckyLundy, (Rick) I have to agree 100% and that's why I used the term "nugget" as there's so many ways to use it. Friends and stories made on gold collecting journeys is most valuable to the soul. The beautiful yellow stuff is just the icing on the cake. Your name is in the hat my friend. HotSauce I can see you have put some time on your coils and the adventures have a golden shine at the end of the road. You've done well my friend. I used to think I would remember all my nicer finds and I probably did for 15 to 25 yrs, but I think the sharp tack mind is starting to wear on me a little. Now I have to use notes and cheat on occasion. The hunt for the next big o gold is always on our minds. Thanks for sharing and your name is in the hat my friend. mn90403 (Mitchel), Gold finds like that can leave an everlasting highs/lows in the soul. There's usually great joy and pride but for some reason a few sour grapes seem to surface as well. I'll check out your story later on. Hopefully those great times and memories with the ones around at the time will last forever. Thanks for sharing and your name is in the hat my friend. geof_junk Silly me.... I have never seen a guys hand so small.🤫 Or could it be your stones are so big? Well either way those memories will last forever my friend. Thanks for sharing and your name is in the hat my friend. Glenn in CO My gosh Glenn, that golden dove is just amazing. You are so lucky to have a nugget beside you on every trip and willing to take part. I wish you 2 many more golden years to come. Thanks for sharing and your name is in the hat my friend. Arky (Mike) Good to see you and your best find still out there swinging and learning. Each site is different and something to learn all the time. That’s a fine chunky nugget there and most would think around the heavily pounded Quartzsite area, it should have been picked up already. Maybe it was me who boot scraped it and walked, as I have done so many times before. I especially do that in known trashy areas. If site was new to me or if a lot of surface trash, then yes I probably walked and left one for those more determined. Good to see you again last month and hopefully seeing you more down the road. Thanks for sharing and your name is in the hat my friend. oneguy (Scott) that pic is certainly a golden pan full. Many hours and memories to be thankful there. A few really chunky ones as well. Be sure to ask Santa for a new pair of gloves for X-Mas., as I’m sure you need them. Thanks for sharing and your name is in the hat my friend. Norvic Finding that virgin site is something most of us dream of and especially when you are finding golden slugs and fist size sunbakers. You certainly have many hunts and memories to be thankful. I imagine there are a few of those such sites left, but they are certainly getting harder each year. Thanks for sharing and your name is in the hat my friend. deathray I love the shoe plate and to get a complete one if even more rare. The display of Au and the plate is stunning. To hand it over to the landowner is most advantageous in so many ways. I do it quite a bit myself and it usually brings back the “come back any time” comment. Well done and thanks for sharing. Your name is in the hat my friend.

Different spelling as the top dog at Garrett is spelled Novakovich. Below info from Garrett website.

Strick and others. Sorry I was not on the ball last month when all this was going down. You guys know me better than that and I'm usually much better focused. Honestly, I've been so focused on the Axiom and getting as much time in the field with it. While at the same time, I had a massive flood in my shop and total strip down/rebuild in the rooms. I love DP but at the same time, I can easily get wrapped into it so deep that I'm not taking care of other things and sometimes they are very important. Just getting on and reading a couple posts and then I want to help and reply. Next thing I know is it's been 3 hrs and I'm missing something else. It was one of my own customers on here who brought it to my attention Go figure. So in the meantime I've patiently waited for Minelab USA to inform me and not a word. No call, no email no communication what so ever. If anything, a simple mass email to all dealers would be nice. So I guess we'll use DP and the friendly folks posting to keep us (including dealers) updated. No I didn't have time to read all pages and threads on this subject so hopefully I'm not repeating something already said. Not sure if another US dealer such as Rob or other has chimed in but honestly I think we all were in the dark. Bottom line is it should have been taken care of in a better manor. Let's hope they learn from it. The good thing, eventually is, we now have a fix. What that means is they are listening/watching/reading. At least in other countries.

Yes I asked Minelab USA about that email the other day and they would not reply? Now it could just as easily be as already mentioned, "Buy a GPX/GPZ and get (here in US) a GM-1000. Knowing Minelab, they are trying to keep detector sales and market share from swaying to Garrett. Just so many turns/promos the last few weeks with Minelab and the recent release of the Axiom. Or, there is actually another detector coming out around the same time as the Manticore and so they choose the "in pairs". Either way, we're falling for it and peeking to see what's next.

That's exactly why we need competition and options. The more options, eventually means a better price point for my customers. We've already seen Minelab make adjustments and that's great news for everyone on here.

I’m thankful for all who contribute to this fine forum in so many ways. Some just read and gather knowledge while other enjoy posting pics/stories and sharing your experiences. A few wise old men who’ve busted so many pairs of boots to the ground…as well as plenty of young new gunners still wearing metal in their soles and plenty of average Joes to share the fun and tell stories when the sun goes down. You all help in different ways to make this DP forum the best. As a thank you from Gerry’s Detectors. I’d like to have a little fun contest. No I'm not giving away a free $1000 detector like I did last year on here, but a very nice Minelab Detecting Vest with more pockets to lose stuff in. It is a nice vest (see pic at bottom) though and the best part, is just having fun. Share a pic and short story (Simon, notice I said short story) of a “Thankful nugget” on this thread. Contest ends Sunday, 27th at midnight my time. 1 entry per person. The winner will get a Minelab vest sent to them free of charge. Sorry but I do not plan on sending the vest outside of the USA. Sure we all would enjoy seeing your Thankful nugget and short story, no matter what country you are from. So, if you are the lucky drawing winner, then give me a name and address of someone in the US who you would enjoy donating your winning Vest. This allows everyone to play and also gives kudos to those from outside the US who go along. All who post their 1 pic and short story will get their name dropped into a hat and there will be a simple drawing sometime next week. I’ll post the winner and then you PM me your USA mailing address. Again, if outside of the US is the winner, please select someone in the US you would like to donate the vest and I will send it on your behalf. Below is pic of my Thankful nugget. My 1st nugget from South Dakota. I watched Deadwood and was drawn in from the story. A month later a special friend invited me to SD. 1st day in the field, 1st hour and I scored gold in more ways than one. Fun times, memories at dinner (happy birthday to your wife) and just an overall wonderful experience. I'm Thankful for the opportunity you shared with me. Looking forward to having some nice reads and interesting nugget pics to see. Again, Happy Thanksgiving to my DP friends and safe travels during the holiday weekend.

Steve H - 100% agree that Mr. Novakovich and his engineering team are making a difference. This machine and it's price point are so great for the competition and having the features they provided us along with the performance is a real winner. Sure there will be the few who flat out will disc it (heck there's been well known dealers on this forum who were blowing it off at first) and find every way, wrong washer to down talk it. They just assumed and we all know what what that means for they lack of knowledge. Another part of your comments are well accepted from me as Garrett plans on staying in the game. I sure hope they offer even more new and exciting technologies to come. Norvic - You know me well enough, always trying to make a bloke silly his cup while reading DP. You also know, I've put my foot down on the dirt enough times to have a pretty good idea when something new and good is for us. Will be interesting to see if "Axiom" makes it's way on your profile of "Gear Used". Either way you decide, you of all know this will help keep pricing inline. Simon - Sorry they did not price it so well for other countries. I'm still trying to wrap my head around that one as I can't figure it out. We would think, the price point would be comparative to US, but somethings surely off. You are dead on about competition though and that's the bottom line. We can look back just a few years ago and see how XP has done so well and that make Minelab step up their game. The more options, the better the price point and that my friend is helpful to all. Smigo - It's kind of a long standing joke and reputation I have with the mouth shot that started 25+ yrs ago. I'm not sure if my body/gut has been so infected that is now used to it, that it doesn't bother me much anymore or I'm just stupid lucky. Either way, you do bring up a great point (especially around old mine sites and free range cattle). Thanks for pointing it out. Northeast - You're another old timer who knows the ropes well. As with Norvic, I hope you do give it (the Axiom) a true run and comparison vs the price point. On a side note. One of your interests is "Footy". Do you wash her toes before you do that? GR Guy - The 6 coil options are from Garrett and we don't have to worry about 2nd sourcing. I'm all on board with NF coming out with the coils for the 6. They sure have a way of stringing out their release though and not sure how that happened but a smart and strong company like them better make some changes next go around. This release of the NF coils has really soured a crowd. If/when the coils are in many hands then the more options we get the better. My main point was from the manufacture. Minelab offered 3 coils for the 6 and that is it. Garrett offered 6 which is twice the amount for 1 machine. Another thing I expect about the coils from Garrett. I'm willing to bet their price point in the US will be better as well. Options are the bottom line that allows us more fun. Thanks for asking my friend.

Let me start off by saying, I normally do not mention other brands and or models of detectors when I'm giving kudos to those who have earned it. But at the same time, I also realized I've been giving the same kudos for years to those other brands and detector models my staff/I prefer and or use. So I'll stuff the rock in my mouth now and get it out of the way. 1 year this month is how long it's been and boy what a blast and fun my team/I has had. Funny, how they are just now (a yr later) getting into customers hands. Better to wait a little and get it right than piss off the world.. 1st off a big thanks to Garrett Electronics and their distribution center for getting the Axiom out to my customers in time as some of them are already in their hands and I’ve been told of some Thanksgiving detecting going on. As many of you follow on DP, my staff/I were selected to work behind the scene and help make this detector even better. Being a US Military Veteran, I was also very adamant about Garrett offering a 15% military discount, which they have never offered in all the yrs I've been selling their products. On a side note, I was one of the most vocal dealers to talk Minelab into the same thing yrs back. I heard a few dealers are not offering it (it is voluntary) but here at Gerry's Detectors, I most certainly will do so. One of the things about the new man in charge at Garrett, he is a thinker, but most importantly, he listens. No, I didn't get everything my way, but I feel what changes have been made are all better for, end users of the Axiom, dealers who sell it and even Garrett themselves. Back/forth open discussion is critical for new releases, the longevity of our hobby and the manufactures who build them. Hopefully other manufactures do the same. My Field Staff and I have spent hundreds of hrs on the new PI technology using/testing/comparing and making judgment of this new detector while finding gold in 3 different states. We even shared it for a bit at the last Rye Patch NV Field Training class and watched Lunk pull a small nugget some of the other big machines missed. No, it doesn't have the same raw depth/power of $8500 detectors but at the cost of only $4000 ($3400 with VET discount), you sure are getting 85% to 95% of it, depending on soil conditions and kind of gold. Why do I say kind of gold? Because some types of Au rocks and nuggets, the Axiom has greater depth/sensitivity. I've been swinging a variety of detectors for 45+ yrs with the last 25+ in the pursuit of the heavy metal. I'll admit the majority of top performing detectors for my Au tasks were not from the Garrett brand. In my opinion, they and the other manufactures just could not put a complete machine design to my liking for the styles of my hunts. I've owned Infinium, AT Gold and even the ATX. They are nice machines with a couple good features and their price points are what you would expect. But the bottom line, I would always going back to the well-known brand for most situations….until now. Thank you Garrett Electronics (and all the people involved with the making of this fine detector) for providing a PI detector option at a reasonable price that actually performs extremely well for a variety of conditions and on many different styles and kinds of gold. My Field Staff and I (each one of us) are more than pleased and actually quite blown away that you could come out of nowhere and produce a detector of such caliber. My guys and I are used to running the best of the best and we’re willing to pay whatever the price to do such. So when I told them about said machine and they selecting my team to test it, they (my guys) just played along and said sure. It was as if them telling me. We’ve been down this road before Gerry and we’re pretty sure of the results. Well to be honest, I couldn’t blame them for be so…so.. ok we’ll do it…but as soon as it’s over, we’re back to what gets us the gold and the machines we prefer. Not so fast my friends…. Things didn’t play out the way we expected. My guys are totally on board and eager and wanting to get back out there with this Axiom. They’ve pounded the ground, sweated the heats, broken the frost and still happily swinging the Axioms. Why you say. Cause the results are golden and they pokes have been overflowing this year. Folks, I say this as FACT and no bullshit here. This last year 3 of us found more gold than we did the previous year. We attribute the success to the Axiom and the way it runs, the features it has and the overall performance for the areas we detected. Garrett has made a detector that will provide so many people the ability to enjoy it’s benefits of a PI. PI’s of past are just that, the past. Prime example, why so many people in the US go from a GPZ-7000 to a GPX-6000, when the 7000 is still the deepest big gold detector out there? I’m guessing here, but a big % of my customers was the weight and ergonomics. Those who waited to see and hear the results soon found out so much of the big gold had already played out in the US. But still the GPX-6000 was finding small gold and specimens better than the 7. So for many, the switch was a no brainer. Now we get another option from another player and this one has features the other 2 mentioned do not. This one has better coil selection the other 2 do not. This one is priced much better and more affordable for more people. This one, the Axiom.. is a great detector to be thankful for. I'm not saying it beats the others in every way, never have, never will. But the overall capabilities and fun factor...let it shine let it shine. Again Garrett, your complete family and also Steve H. (yes you had more to do than many realize), I thank you all for giving us the gold detecting, beach hunting, and CW Relic era detectorists an amazing option to use in the field and have fun doing what we enjoy. You really built a detector that has impressed me and most of all my Field Staff, way way way more than what we initially expected. Cools digs.. We are lucky to live in a country that allows us to enjoy a variety of hobbies, allows us to speak our mind and allows us to have a little fun and laughter. If you are not smiling, choking on a chunk of Au or getting a laugh with friends while out enjoying the Hunt, then I ask you to please grab your detector and go make some memories. Finding the gold is just part of the fun. Thank You All and Happy Thanksgiving. (some new pics many of you have not seen). Gerry at Gerry's Detectors in Boise, Idaho.

Most certainly and don't even look back. The actual answer depends on your preferred detecting style, but since you mentioned NOOB, then go with the US version. Here's the great thing about the Axiom. Once they get all orders caught up and start working on coils, there is already 6 different options to select from. Another bonus with Garrett (if we look at the past), is their coil pricing will be more reasonable than the other brand. If the Axiom sells good (and I don't see why not), then we might get options from other coil manufactures as well. Options and more options is what we want.

I've already had to explain this to a couple of my customers of the Axiom. All of the 1st allotment I received were American version Axioms with 13" DD and the 11"MONO. I feel that is the best for most folks. But then it was brought to my attention, the videos I provided showed me using the 13" MONO. So they wonder what is up with why I want them to get the 13" DD. The main point....I was hunting for bigger gold. Most folks want any and all nuggets. I knew what you and Lunk were up to so I wanted to be different. Thanks for the detailed explanation.

Thanks for bringing this up Steve as my test unit is still the older version. I was told to keep it that way and compare it to one of my other Field Staff Members Axiom, which his has the upgrade. Yes when we compared, there was a difference and I think he told me he was 2 clicks off of Max, as I was running MAX. My MAX unit runs to smooth for my liking. What's most astonishing is that Garrett took the time to listen to our feedback and then actually did something about it. So so many times in this industry, when a Field Tester gets something, the product is pretty much complete and they are just looking for our opinion and for us to make some finds for their advertising. This go around we actually had something in time with room to improve and it really did help make a difference on a few of the things we noted. I prefer it this way, but in times past with most other companies it's not that way. Well done Garrett you are on the right track. Thanks again Steve.

Those are some nice chunky digs my friend. Your hard work and efforts have rewarded you with a collection of Au nuggets and even bigger of the man made trash type. Be sure to haul that stuff out so I don't have to find it next time. Thatks for sharing your Success pics.

Mike, We didn't freeze to death but it was cold. You and the wife be in AZ this winter? Let me know when either of you need a new detector. Stay safe this winter and warm.

Heck yeah you are getting us Northern boys all fired up. Ground is frozen up this way. May try sunny slopes in a few days as we might hit 40's. Nice gold and thanks for sharing.

I didn't know if it was ok to post the coins/relic pics but they were part of the trip and the main reason I was in NV to begin with was so I my team could teach on the gold detectors.

I'm sure they have, it's right off the freeway and you get to hear the trucks in the background all day. I even have to crop my pics so folks don't see the road and background. That's almost as bad as saying "I found it right here".

Buddy, I'm totally with you on the leak issues. It's funny as the amount of CTX-3030's I personally had leak, yet my 1st NOX lasted 2 yrs before a leak. Now I'm not here to say their % numbers are right or wrong, but for the amount of then that I sell (hundreds) and the few that leak, I'm quite pleased. I guess the reality is the style of detectorist. Guys like you/I who are in water to our chin all day long will have a greater chance than those who shallow water wade. I seriously feel post covid NOX are not as well built as early ones. (my opinion) I conclude this based on the amount of machines my staff/I had submerged for hours while on trips vs in the last 2 yrs. Same amount of machines each yr but more issues since Covid? You know me well enough, not a YES man. But the reality is their technology is some of the best. Not saying it's the best, as the new Deus II is a great detector, but guess what, that machine can leak as well and I have proof. In fact, I have never had a detector that was said to be 100% and it never leaked. Sure the old tank size detectors didn't leak as much, but my poor arms, back and shoulder couldn't get as many hours a hunt either. Again, I feel you/I have the same water detecting styles and yes we have both had detectors leak and ruin part of a trip. Funny how we now have to take 2 detectors on each trip. Who knows how well the Manticore will hold up but I do expect it to do better than the NOX. After all, the NOX was better at keeping out water than a CTX. Either way, we'll both own one because that's what's in our DNA. How long with they go without flood and is the extra finds made worth it? Only time will tell. Just curious, have you gave up on Caribbean hunts? Sure beats our winters and even summer water temps any day. Plus the eye candy is good for the old ticker... Chunky Dunk in Idaho 45 degree waters or skinny dip Cancun 75 degree waters... We must be crazy gezzers Clive..but at least we have fun.

Almost forgot 2 other interesting items and one of them was on the surface. A pink glass dish with a critter (see pic). and a tobacco toy metal bull. Sure love the do-dads.

Spent my last good detecting trip with friends for 4 days before driving out to Rye Patch proper and proceeded to give a gold detector class to 12 lucky folks. This will be my last trip down there for 2022 and I wanted to give an update and share some finds. 1st things was good to see Lundy parked at an old patch scuffing up with few nuggies. He sure talks highly of the 10" Ellip GOLD-HAWK coin on the end of his GPX-6000 and even showed me the proof. He's a pretty good hunter ol Lundy, so please don't expect to get same results as he. I think he had at least a half dozen nuggies sitting on it tailgate. Now is our turn. With the weather turning cold on us we had to bundle up pretty well, but it was the winds that was most annoying. Headphones were a must and you still needed a hat over those just to cut out the whistling from the headphone frames. Guess what I found out during this. Those earbud around the neck things Doc sells sure make a difference on hearing but not so much on keeping the ears warm. We woke up to 2 days of fresh snow early in the week and decided not to drive very far off the main roads. It was voted on and accepted that we stay in phone range and so we hunted for old coins/relics/do-dads. I enjoy these kinds of multi hunt trips and NNV is such a perfect area to do so as there are many towns, camps, stops along the highway and also a few small picker nugget patches not that far from there as well. 1st site produced 2 coins and a couple tokens. My brother banged the 1st one an 1909-S Barber dime and then backed that up with an 1884 IH cent. Pic of the dime. I had not even got on the board yet and little brother is making me feel old. Funny how things come full circle in life. At once I was the top dog detectorist of us two and it seems the last few yrs, he’s been outdoing me. Anyway. I sniffed out an interesting oblong piece of brass and can read “2 for 25 Cent on it. Not sure what it is as there is no name to associate. I did score two tokens and think one of them could be a collectors piece. The DEWY BAR of Salt Lake City UT, Good for 5 cent (below) The other one STEVENS & JOHNSON from National NEV from the Ice Palace SALOON for 12 ½ cents. (see below) I actually enjoy tokens more than coins as they have more history behind them. Then I stumbled across a really interesting coin, a US 2 Cent Copper dated 1876. That was my highlight coin for the trip, heck actually my best for the year. My brother managed a V nickel and an 1887 Seated Dime as well. One of the most unique digs was a ramrod guide from an 1800’s rifle. My big silver of the trip was a 1920 Walking Half Dollar just a scuff under the dirt. Not sure how this was missed by so many people as the site gets detected all the time. An interesting pic for you all to figure out what that cement looking thing is. Funny I have seen them before but never up close. Anyone know? Now lets get to the gold the stuff this forum is best at. One day of no rain/snow we drove out to Sawtooth and 3 of us hunted over half the day. 2 small dinks with the 6000 is all we were able to round up mostly because of trying to find a new patch. We know when looking for new gold areas, the chances of success go down drastically. But thats' also how you can stumble across a new site. After that, we boogied back to camp at Rye Patch proper. We had 30 minutes of light and so why not. I grab a detector and 4 targets later I have 3 dinks stuck under my lip. Man it’s funny how camp and the burn barrel just keep on giving. Problem is they just get smaller and smaller each year. Many people always say, "never leave gold to find gold". That's exactly how this day went. 2/3rd a day for 2 small pickers and 30 minutes at a known site for 3 dinks (pic below). The 3 on the coin came from Rye Patch proper. The class had a fantastic group of hard core wannabees. Even with the weather in the 30’s these troopers just kept on absorbing knowledge from staff and I. Gold started to get found on Saturday and by Sunday most students actually had great focus and nuggets were starting to pop. I think be the time it was all said and done, we ended up with a dozen pieces of gold and 5 or 6 smiling faces. It just amazes me how fast most folks can dial in their detectors/skills when around a few Field Experts for a few days. That’s exactly why we offer what we do. Below 3 pics is a customer from CA and his 1st Rye Patch, NV gold with his GPZ-7000 and small X coil. A customer from Idaho using an SDC-2300 found a picker and then after class scooped up 3 or 4 more. ( I guess the class did him well.) see his 2 pics below. Another CA guy with his GPX-6000 and the GOLDHAWK Coil. He was the gold hawg of the trip as I think his total ended up at half a dozen. Below 4 he found while I was there. Lunk was able to share his knowledge with the group before heading south to warm weather land. He grabbed an Axiom just to show it around and in the few minutes of swinging he does what Lunk does best. (below pic) I’m sure Lunk is down there in AZ right now charting his next desert hunt and ready to count his gold. One of the things we’ll offer our customers this winter is to get up with Lunk for a 1 day 1 on 1. In times past we have not really shared this as it’s time for Lunk to find gold or meteorites to help him get through the winter. Because we have a good number of folks who want to do training in AZ during the winter and they don’t click well in large groups, we decided to offer the 1 on 1 or 1 with a couple option. Lunk will be offering 2 types of training days. 1 for finding gold with your detector and the other for finding meteorites with your detector. Contact me for more details and we’ll go from there. That's it this year for Rye Patch, NV and possibly even here in Idaho as we still have snow on the ground from a week ago. I'll be updating my website Calendar of Events for 2023 after the 1st week of Jan. In the mean time, check out a few new videos on my website www.gerrysdetectors.com and then click on Videos. Time to start selling the Axiom and getting ready for a warm weather hunt. Keep in low and swing it slow...the detector you goof.😉 Gerry

I have been informed a good size order is heading out this week. If you are not on my list, please contact me ASAP at 208-345-8898. Again, I do offer the 15% military discount as I offer on Minelab.

Did you forget my # again Mitchel.😏 208-345-8898 I can assure you the GPX-6000 hits small lead birdshot every bit as much as a VLF and even deeper on occasion. I think the area around Dome Rock would be great for the 6000 and especially if equipped with the CoilTek 10" GOLDHAWK coil. Your weight total may not be heavy, but the gold count should be up there.

As a dealer, it did surprise me of the free Gold Monster-1000, since it sells so well. So either the market is really slow with the bad economy or they are trying to keep market-share from trying the Axiom, or combination of both? Either way, I'm here willing to help customers. Heck if you already have a GM-1000 and were planning on stepping up to 6/7 and don't need Monster, let's talk and I'll work with you. Definitely an interesting promo.

Hey, I know for a fact how hard Rye Patch has been detected. You find any nuggets with a detector and you're certainly doing better than most. Well earned. Funny how I was there the following week. Ran into Lundy and a couple older customers who had saved a few dinks as well.

Oh my Steve you have done quite well. I know for a fact those nuggets will bring top dollar vs the ugly rocks I've been able to recover. As you said, our season is winding down do to weather and since the release is in the next weeks, it's time to sit back and let others get their time swinging and making observations. Hopefully the ones who pull the trigger and get an Axiom, spend time learning it before making judgment. Most certainly for those who've never used a PI. I can honestly say, this detector is much better than what I was expecting from Garrett. Hopefully others see the same. Well done Garrett, now let's work on a true do it all VLF with advancements above Deus-II, Equinox and Manticore. Be sure to price it at $1499 or less and you'll sell like hot cakes.