Jeff McClendon

Thank for your gold nugget testing video. The Gold Field testing was basically what I expected. For any Deus 2 discrimination mode whether an FMF or Deus 2 Mono, you may need to either turn iron audio volume up a lot and/or lower the discrimination setting to 0 or below to hit the smaller gold targets in that kind of mineralization with a clear tone even if it is an iron tone.

Welcome to Detector Prospector!!!! I am very sorry to hear about the monetary inflation in your country. We have similar issues here in the USA too. My grocery shopping bill has almost doubled since Covid 19 began as has my heating bill and gasoline for my car bill. My income for paying these doubled prices has not doubled unfortunately. I am amazed that Nokta Makro could price the Legend at such a good price here in the USA. Some other international detector companies have already raised their prices on previously existing models here I am guessing, to cover their unexpected supply chain costs. I really hope Nokta Makro is doing okay and that the value of the Turkish Lira will stabilize soon........

I don't know about hearing nothing in Calabash's example. He just didn't initially hear that target and did later when he did a frequency shift. Same with Gigmaster putting his Deus ll back in the car and grabbing his Equinox. Maybe he did not perform a frequency shift check before he started detecting with his Deus ll due to unfamiliarity with it. There could have also been another EMI source besides a nearby Equinox or crucial setting that he was unaware of that caused his Deus ll to not be able to detect the deeper targets that his friend's Equinox was detecting easily. "Silent" EMI is still EMI whether it is coming from another detector, pinpointer, our phone, camera or some other source that we can't control. It can effect a detector in different ways especially simultaneous multi frequency detectors and pulse induction detectors. If I can hear the effects of audible EMI I just assume that their is also inaudible EMI in the area. Doing a noise cancel/frequecy shift should take care of most of it. I don't see this as an issue or major problem. As long as detector users hunting together take the necessary steps to alleviate most of the interference, things should go well. It is a good thing that both Deus ll, the Equinox and the Legend have the ability to run in selectable single frequencies when EMI is too bad for the detector to operate as an SMF detector. Those of us that have a Deus ll and those that don't have a lot to learn about how Deus ll works.

Your statement above removes the problem of habitation and human trash. It does not address the problem of the ground itself being a detectable target and attenuating detector effectiveness and the depth issues that can result. I don't have a Deus 2. I have owned the Deus 1 and ORX. Abenson on this forum is doing some testing and preliminary videos using Deus 2 Gold Field with FMF tech. He is a Deus 1 owner also. XP claims that FMF will perform extremely well in all terrains and soil types. If that is true and I certainly hope it is, Deus 2 Gold Field or any other Deus 2 mode using FMF should see the ground itself as less of a target no matter how mineralized it is or isn't. That should improve overall depth and target ID accuracy when testing a Deus 2 against a Deus 1 on the same ground if Deus 2 is operating at a similar weighted FMF frequency combination as Deus 1 in single frequency and the ground balance, reactivity, audio, audio response and discrimination or IAR settings are similar.

My comments as a Deus and Equinox and pulse induction detector user who also uses handheld pinpointers..........do an automatic noise cancel, automatic frequency shift or manual frequency shift if you are hunting with others and with handheld pinpointers BEFORE you start detecting and do another one if problems arise during a hunt. That is what these features are there for. Some seeded hunt organizers tell their hunters to turn down their sensitivity before hunting and to do noise cancel/frequency shifts and to stay well away from each other if possible. Using an Equinox and a Deus, I simply can't hunt around some other detectors either without doing the necessary steps. Blaming it all on the Equinox is not accurate. I can hear some FTP and Whites VLF detectors approaching from 20 yards away using either an Equinox or a Deus....... Conversely, I can be using an Equinox or Deus right next to another Equinox or Deus IF we have prepped our detectors and pinpointers to minimize crosstalk feedback before hunting. So, Calabash and his hunting partner along with Steve (Gigmaster) and his hunting partner should have taken care of that before starting out instead of blaming it all on the Equinox.....or Deus ll depending on which video your are watching.

Hi Seabee Ron, great to see you over on this forum. We are definitely having drama issues here too but there is still plenty of good information and good behavior happening on this site.

There is no doubt that Turkey, just like the rest of the world is experiencing supply chain issues and inflation issues. As far as the Turkish government shutdowns, I have yet to hear anything about that. What I am hearing and reading are natural gas shortages due to problems with pipeline malfunctions and the resulting electricity issues which are not helping the Turkish monetary situation and which are impacting big multi-national companies. Whether Turkish companies are being heavily impacted by these shortages......I don't know. I have read that the amount of natural gas and electricity availability being cut by 40% then 20% was targeted at Turkey's multi national industrial zones.....so their would not be a loss of power or heat for hospitals, schools, private citizens/residential areas. As of this morning, 2/8/22, full flow of natural gas has been restored and repairs to the Iranian natural gas lines into Turkey have been completed. Whether any of this is impacting the release of the Nokta Makro Legend......it is still February and Dilek said she hoped some time in February that the improvements to the Legend would be complete. Shipping them is another story. Like many that use this forum currently, the ground is basically frozen and covered with snow where I am, and aside from some fast moving streams, all of the lakes are very frozen. I really don't have anywhere to use the Legend if I had one.

I did not see any activity in the lower left where GND LVL is labeled. it stayed empty/blank. Actually, I think I am giving you bad information. You might want to really study the Ground section in the manual page 22 (I think) and figure out how to ground balance in the Beach modes and how to use the Magnetic Ground accept/reject setting. Like I said I don't have a Deus 2, but in Beach mode you may need to first press the top right button under G.B. to access the Beach ground balance menu where you chose if you want tracking or grab and magnetic ground accept (probably yes in our case) or reject....test it and see if accept/reject makes a difference.

I don’t have a Deus 2 and I don’t know if you ground balance yours before using it or if you have used all of the iron sand features included in the Beach programs…….So, as you try to do a ground grab ground balance by pressing the pinpoint button and slowly pumping the coil, instead of watching the numbers in the bottom right corner of the display, try to watch the bar graph in the bottom left corner that alternates with the battery levels and see what happens. Just by looking at your videos, the sand there looks similar to some of the Southern California beaches I have hunted that have moderate levels of black sand and can definitely give VLFs problems.

Thanks Andy. The only thing I do differently than you is put both detectors in 2 tones…ferrous/non-ferrous. I get similar results using Equinox, Deus 1 and ORX. Coin in position 2 swing direction 4 defeats all three detectors regularly. Otherwise all three do very well as did Deus 2.

It looked like 3 to 5 from what I could see which is about right for the gold prospecting areas I have hunted in central AZ. Most ground balance between 1 and 13

About as fair as one can get for a recently buried US dime test in mineralized dirt. On established, undisturbed US coin targets in dirt like this using an optimally setup Equinox, more depth is very possible even down to 10" on a US dime, copper penny or larger US coin, IF EMI and soil moisture conditions are favorable. Too much EMI, too dry or too wet and all bets are off. Deus 2 on the 6" dime approached from Andy's swing direction had very good numerical target ID and tone recognition. So did the Equinox. Deus 2 on the 7" dime had intermittent correct target IDs and tones along with lots of 00s. Similar effect on the Equinox swinging over the 7" dime with intermittent correct target IDs and tones along with iron range numbers and tones. For someone with lots of US coin experience with the Equinox in high iron mineralization, the 7" dime target responses would have been an absolutely must dig especially if the target was investigated more and the high numbers were consistently in the high 20s to mid 30s. If the high numbers had been 39/40 only coupled with iron responses, I might have passed up that target as deep iron. So, virtually identical results that were about what I expected from the testing that has been done by others in milder dirt. XP's FMF technology has definitely improved the depth and target ID accuracy of Deus 2 over Deus 1. However, unless one is a saltwater beach hunter or diver, or really is enamored with the Deus platform from long experience or for its great ergonomics, I have not seen any other reason to ditch the Equinox, trash the soon to be released Legend or declare one over the others as the greatest detector in the world. thanks Andrew!!!!!

Any chance you could do a Monte's nail board test. I know it is a 2D test but for comparison to other detectors and their results it does have some value.........using General, Fast, Relic or anything you want to use.

Comparing Deus 1 to Deus 2, that is a very good result and XP is to be commended. Comparing the Equinox to Deus 2………not such a good result if that is the best that Deus ll can do with an 11” coil in moderate mineralization. That test was done with a freshly planted target. Targets that are similar in size and conductivity but are wild or well established test bed targets may give different results.

So when the bone phones are selected as the audio output choice on the display, all subsequent program choices whether beach programs or turf programs will automatically switch to square audio? I thought that the only program that was square audio only was Diving.

Are you using the bone phones with Square tone audio? They may not work well with PWM audio. Also try lowering the Reactivity a bit to lengthen the square tones along with increasing Audio Response. Try the on the bones right in front of your ears.

Thank you for doing this test. Personally, I will gladly accept 6 to 7” of accurate target ID using Deus ll. Deus l and the ORX no matter what program or frequency usually lose target ID accuracy on coin sized low and mid conductors at 3” or even less where I detect. Most coin sized targets of any conductivity deeper than 7” to 8” here are undetectable with a Deus l or ORX using any sized coil except in Gold Field. Did you happen to check the mineralization meter when ground balancing? Also, what was your sensitivity? thanks, Jeff

Thank Erik. That looked like hard work. Also, your beach appears to have plenty of black sand areas so I am not surprised if you continue to see similar results between the Equinox and Deus ll. thanks, Jeff

I also have hunted in North Georgia red clay a lot with Deus 1 and the Equinox. Deus 1 mineralization bar is usually 1/3 to 1/2 full with ground balance of 86 to 88. Equinox ground balances there between 20 and 40.

I have had my Deus 1 and Equinox 800 on various moderately to highly Fe304 mineralized ground where magnetite is visible on the surface and ranges in size from tiny particles to ping pong ball sized. These sites completely fill up the Deus 1 mineralization meter and my Equinox 800 ground balances between +1 and -3. Deus 1 ground balances in the low 90s at the same sites.

On Deus 1, the Gold Field mode was by far the most sensitive on smaller gold than any other program. I am going to assume that it will also be the same on Deus 2. However, when gold prospecting it is great to have a secondary discrimination program to investigate iffy targets with. The first 4 modes included on Deus 2 look like very good candidates for that task where you can use the notch feature if needed, have multiple tone audio choices, the ability to customize those tones and have actual iron discrimination if needed. Listening to a threshold tone and 1 tone VCO audio for hours and hours going off on hot rocks and iron can definitely cause audio fatigue. So I would also be interested in how General, Sensitive, Sensitive FT or Fast do compared to Gold Field on Deus 2 for ground handling and sensitivity to smaller gold nuggets in the .05 gram to 1 gram range. Thanks Andy for doing your testing and for being willing to share your thoughts and impressions with us.

There are several Youtube pontificators (I am not referring to Calabash by the way, he actually knows what he is talking about and won't say something that he hasn't substantiated through testing at least in his area) who sit in a chair in their YouTube home office and tell us all about what's up with a manufacturer or specific detector and base their opinions on opinions not facts. Some like the Vegas person above are just click bait artists, period. I don't blindly believe anything that guy says and I gain very little of anything from watching his videos.

I don’t think the bone phones need the audio cable adapter. If you wanted to use different 1/4” or 1/8” plug wired headphones or earbuds and you wanted to plug them into the remote control, you would need the audio adapter cable.

Like I said earlier, I like the X-Terra 705. However, as soon as I was able to use the Equinox 600 and 705 at the same time on wild, in the ground targets here in Colorado, it was abundantly clear which one was the better detector. It took about 5 minutes…….that was back in early 2018. I detect a lot and I am a member of a detecting club with over 100 members. No one is using an X-Terra 705 here anymore. So your local dealer would be very happy to sell you a used X-Terra 705 with the 18.75 kHz coil and 7.5 kHz coil for $525 and no warranty. You would have a single frequency detector that has two selectable single frequencies when you change coils. Or you could spend $649, have a 3 year warranty and have a brand new Equinox 600 that has four different multi frequency weighted programs…Park1-Field1, Park2-Field2, Beach 1 and Beach 2 with simultaneous multi frequencies ranging from around 5 kHz to 40 kHz along with selectable single frequencies of 4, 5, 10 and 15 kHz that can be used in the Park and Field modes instead of multi frequencies. You don’t need to change coils…….you just press a button. The Equinox models are all-terrain detectors and were intended to replace the X-Terra models, with a much more versatile and feature rich model line which the Equinox 600 and 800 did very well. So basically as far as frequencies, you have 4 different multi frequency detectors built into the Equinox 600 and 8 different single frequency detectors instead of 2 different detectors frequency wise, with the X-Terra 705 along with a very good prospecting mode.

You asked the question.......I could not hear anything coming from Deus ll. That doesn't mean anything other than, it can't be heard underwater which is not unusual and you need those bone phones pronto. It sucks that the audio adapter cable (if one needs it) and bone phones aren't included as an option so you don't have to order multiple times.