Norvic

Steve, just looking through your pan of non-ferrous targets, there are no brass buttons, are they not present in your fields? Over here in NQ OZ they are probably the most non-ferrous targets after bullets around old workings.

Got to agree, whilst gold has always paid the way, the hobby is what it is about. To compare with fishing, have an excuse for why I don`t catch many fish, reckon they cost about $5000 each fish (boats, fuel, tackle etc) thus can`t afford to catch many!!!!!!!! A nugget, a coin or a fish tis the same difference if you enjoy.

What have you done SS, Kl`ll be another 40% better at least.

I`d say it is definately a clock key Paul, note towards the rear the two "live" old pin bullets. Get a fair number of those when hunting near old workings, something I don`t do much now days, prefer to hunt away from workings, in "virgin" areas the results are much better, although sometimes weeks or more between finds.

Some of NQ OZ goldfields targets, Note the horse bell on left and how it was "tuned" to give a xteristic sound. The copper/brass cylinder above it is a match container(I think), still has a sort of sandpaper surface on top, for match striker, for its age and where found is in amazing condition, lid unscrews after cleanup. I think the two small collars at front are carrier pigeon leg collars. They have numbers on them

Wow, that`s impressive, top video of the GPZs capability.

Yeah, I have a New Years resolution to cease reading SHs reviews, on my treasurers orders or is that threats. Tis all his fault my 15 budget was blown. While I`m at it anyone interested in a cheap bridge. Good panoramic views, location, location, location.

Paul, your a really bad influence, I found one on Ebay OZ and ordered for my 4yr grand son for Xmass. Great way to get him a good case of untreatable detectsoritis that`ll last his lifetime perhaps.

I want,I need, I must have one, as you folks are closer to Santa, pleaseeeee put in a good word for me. Merry Xmass to all you folks up yonder may the Goddess of Gold come across for you in the New Year.

Yeah, I think there is some diffs in nationalities attitudes although I`ve not noticed much between us and you folks( other than Fords), but recall once run into a German prospector, invited him back to camp for a drink.. He noticed we had dug down into the dry river bed sand for our water supply. He considered we were taking a big risk drinking that water (it was crystal clean, sweet), he considered it was probably full of mercury. I didn`t have the heart to tell him the water he was using at the caravan park he was camped in come from downstream about 10 miles from our soak. I think he was mirroring the more environmental awareness attitude of European folks. Relichunter...... the pandas aren`t much of a worry, but you gotta keep your eye on the drop bears.

It really is not rocket science. Detectors that get used find stuff, detectors in closets gather dust. ​ That is the best bit of advice but probably the most disregarded. If it weren`t so coin detector manufacturers would be concentrating on GB, depth and useability enhancements rather than discrimination features. There just would not be a confusing number of detectors with massive amount of features. The one feature I`d love to see is GPS full features complete with say a android screen, ML with the CTX is getting there.

Chasing coins with our "evolved" dig almost all signals and single frequency is the go approach, would say a A2B and a say a CTX operator both of same experience do any different on the same old settlement or park site? Excluding salt beaches where the CTX would be king of course. I would not entertain this question in the gold fields, a A2B verse a GPZ, just no contest. Yet one would think by following 4Ms that a discriminator is needed on a GPZ? Are our machines evolving away from what the operator wants to what the operator is perceived to want? A commercial product for the masses rather then a machine for the enthusiast.

Yeah, guess I`m in fairyland re. light GPZ, but maybe a light, non-gimmicky 2300................come on ML.

Not a drama your initial post being long as it is concise as per your "hot 7000 setting" post. I think my son is heading the same way with his CTX, replacing with or at least acquiring a Deus. Not that the Deus lacks features but it is so light, compact and easy to swing over the CTX. Many hours running them side by side over the same old sites tell the story. Why lunk a heavy detector if there is no advantage? in fact a disadvantage with the slow recovery. I see a few messages to the manufacturers in your post, light to swing, good depth and fast recovery detectors is the way. Now if we could have a GPZ with those attributes...............probably not possible now but down the track?

Wow, that is a marathon post, I`m going to have to reread a few times. Way back with the A2B I did a few early 1900 vacant sites, got many copper and silver coins. Bugger all discrimination, dug everything that wasn`t too big a signal. Back to the same sites with a recently acquired Deus, firstly with heavy notch discrimination, get rid of all ferrous targets and lead, bugger all targets and I was very disappointed. Remove notch discrimination, only discrimination at lower end for ferrous and set with 5 tones, 4Khz frequency, and play with reactivity. Now in conjunction with tones and visual ID a little more success, mainly at depth which can be attributed to the frequency. But not the success as back with the A2B, I guess with all the years of tech advance, the notch discrimination etc all the features that sell detectors, but do they represent much in the way of more finds? like the GPZ does to gold. My experience tells me no, lighter and easier to use, but all that discrimination for what. Not knocking discrimination no way, has its uses, but at these sites I`m digging all smaller signals still as back 30 years, next tackle the larger signals, and address the target masking issue.

From my 35 plus years prospecting have only seen one taipan, that was in NT, a few pythons, night tigers etc. Yes I also think there is a fair few myths about OZ, our ground being the hottest being one of them. That is more of an excuse for getting bugger all and blame the detector. But on snakes the Taipan encounter in the NT probably would have ended in tragedy had my dog not warned me. The snake was in strike mode with its head probably 18 inches off the ground, was a large snake about 8ft long. (was shot by a local next day, but not at my insistence, in fact had I known it would have been shot I would have kept quiet) I still have chills when I think how fortunate I was and believe I was saved by a mans best mate.

I myself wear long trousers and long sleeve shirts, but that is for sun protection. In regard to snake protection, I very rarely see a snake whilst prospecting, see more around my residence. I guess this may sound blasé, but protection from snakebite has never been a very big concern to me, but I do carry a wide elastic bandage to bind such a bite and slow circulation. I think with our taipan you have a lot less than 1 1/2 hrs if your bitten and not treated. The only people I`ve personally known of, all were bitten trying to kill a snake. But I know the Gold Hounds have one member at least who is an expert on snakes, and imagine will answer your query when they return from their current mission.

Jasong, Don`t know about with the GHs but suspect is same, have found it is just not worth it to chase buyers, time spent chasing buyers is much more productive behind a detector. We have only 1/10th or less of your population, thus not the market, but this is from my experience. Only place I`ve had some success with solids is Ebay but mainly into Germany and USA and that market is becoming saturated.

Many thanks Gold Hounds, heard John? on Lawsy the other day. Hope you send Utube site address to Lawsy, re videos, give the old codger a education, just thought he was a wee patronising. Lawsy is a radio talk show jockey of fame in OZ.( John Laws)

My understanding is the pinpointer is wireless, terrible but I think I`ll follow Goldbricks health tip.

Wow, there has been leaks and speculation for a few months but that looks like the real thing, smartphone friendly, 40Khz, pinpointer etc etc. Crickey I can feel another toy coming on.

Doesn`t matter what the numbers are, as SS`s thread shows, we all leave gold, stings and gets to our competitive nature. Makes us want to do better.

Wow, you covered it all, in particular the analogy to coin hunting. With all the discrimination features of the modern coin machine. It seems better to leave them off and process with ears-brain.

It is the sort of detector you seem to either like or dislike, I like mine a lot. Lightweight, very competent and very customable. For coin hunting I suspect right up there with the CTX, my son who has a CTX and been very successful with one, he is on the verge of buying a Deus for his wife. He has worked alongside mine with his CTX, there is nothing between them in their performance, although he nearly always scores more coins as he does more gold when we compete, it is more so because of his youth and better senses.(I hope!!!!!!) I will be very interested in the new coil and version 4 of the software. Certainly XP have been successful with their innovative products, their expansion shows that. May XP and Minelab prosper.

Yeah the detector in coil was something I considered a no no, but I took the plunge and now with the ver 4 upgrade coming out soon, I can see a plus for it in that to be able to use all of Ver4s upgrades you will need the new coil that uses those new features. For less than a complete new comparable detector you can buy the new coil and you basically have a new detector. It has grown on me and I feel we might see more companies adopt this innovation. No doubt horses for courses but.