sjmpainter Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 And I thought gold was the smart investment for the future. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Whites-metal-Detector-4900-5900-6000-Quantum-Spectrum-XLT-Bigfoot-coil-/111981388089?hash=item1a129c6139:g:rVsAAOSw1DtXIX~b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughwater Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Here's a well used one on ebay right now. It has 12 hours left on it and sitting at 100 dollars. Somebody ought to buy it and reverse engineer it? http://www.ebay.com/itm/white-big-foot-17-5-coil/331837706718?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D36499%26meid%3D0e7bb1363c9742efb1ba6d4be45ef62f%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D111981388089 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridge Runner Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Miner John makes a folded 8 coils now that work on the TDI of different size. That may be the one to talk with on making the Bigfoot coil. It's a great coil but I don't remember if it will work on the GPX. I'm not sure if any will work on a VLF detector. Don't take long to find out. Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobill Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Maybe Miner John could make one using the new flat or spiral coil winding that Coiltek and Nugget Finder is currently using: Evolution Technology: In traditional bundle wound Litz coils, the individual turns of Litz wire are grouped together to form what essentially looks like a rope of wire. The Evolution Coils use the same Litz wire; however the individual turns of wire are laid side by side to form a wide flat strap of wire. This method of winding is called a Flat or Spiral winding. Flat winding reduces the capacitance between the wires and produces a much more efficient coil. It also dramatically increases the surface area of the winding, thereby producing a coil with both improved depth and sensitivity across all target sizes. I would buy one for my MXT Pro! Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geotech Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Here's a little back-of-the-envelope figuring... Let's say the Bigfoot in active production can't justify a $500 price tag. Maybe $375 MSRP for a typical $300 street price. Let's say the manufacturer sells wholesale at 60% MSRP, that's $225 which would give a dealer $75 mark-up to street. The manufacturing costs for this coil will push $100, so the manufacturer makes $125 per coil. They average 10/month, so this comes up to $15,000 per year. Not really worth the effort to develop and tool up for such a coil. Now you'll say, "I'll bet the market is a lot higher than 10/month!" Maybe, maybe not. I knew the last guy who was hand-building Bigfoot coils, and 10/month was about right. And, to make matters worse, half of those he built didn't work, so he built 20 to sell 10. This would be an opportunity for an entrepreneur to step in and develop a family of Bigfeet coils, not just for White's but Tesoro, Fisher, Garrett, etc. Then your market really opens up, and makes sunk development costs more palatable. But it would still be a one-man band, not enough money to be made to hire any help. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argyle Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 That all makes sense, most definitely. Then again we have coils say like an 8"DD PI coil being made by Detech (great little coil btw), and hardly any guys buy them, maybe lucky to move a dozen across the world in six months. But a single size range of Bigfoot in the 8design across many brands would be a must have for most detectorist's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridge Runner Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 If a person would run a ad telling everyone you want one you may be rewarded. I don't think it was a large amount made but you only want one. I ran a ad for a drone 2 cycle engine some years back and one guy called with three.So you never know what may pop up. Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobill Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Chuck, took your advice and I'm looking for one for my MXT. Thanks, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick K - First Member Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Thanks Geotech welcome to the hard graft of dollars/cents/material costs/labor hours. I Bet Jim Karbowski never got rich making them in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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