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Fisher Has A Lot Of Models Marked Discontinued On Their Site And Teknetics Has 3 Models


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On 1/21/2022 at 1:49 PM, RobNC said:

If they are around after this year at all it will be a surprise. Nobody even knows who they are as a company anymore when it comes to metal detectors. Maybe all those other ventures they've been doing while neglecting metal detectors has dried up too.

Yep, they are not going to be around much longer. On borrowed time due to their own arrogance.

They sell huge numbers of detectors, just not the ones you are interested in. They are also doing a lot more than just metal detectors, as First Texas is a diversified holding company. In fact that may be the problem - the real corporate interest may be focused elsewhere. The company is not close to going broke, far from it. Even if detectors go away, First Texas will go on.

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I took my T2 out for a spin this afternoon as I just felt like using it, and I enjoyed using it and almost forgot how nice it felt on my arm.  That's what it's all about isn't it?  More people would get to experience a T2/F75 if the price was reasonable for the detector it is in today's market.   I hope they release their high end detectors as low end detectors at some point like they did with the F19, the T2 and F75 would make good entry level machines, they'd be better off getting rid of a lot of the toys they sell and stick with selling these better detectors as competitive entry level machines.  A T2, F75 and the Bounty Hunter Time Ranger Pro (F19) sit along side the competitors entry level machines nicely as decent entry level detectors, what puzzles me is why detecting companies haven't realized that if they make beginners detectors as enjoyable and easy as possible to use with good Target ID's and not segments they'll end up with more users and happier ones too. 

These detectors with a few discrimination segments and no Target ID's should all be discontinued.  The last thing we want is a bunch of beginners using what are essentially dig all non-ferrous detectors digging holes all over the place to dig up a ton of junk, if they have good cherry picking Target ID detectors the parks and areas we detect won't be so badly dug up by people who know no better using their detector.  Here where we have $1 and $2 coins people are quite content just digging their ID numbers, you can go home with a significant amount of money in coins from a quick hunt in a good spot.   I rarely don't find enough on a days hunt to at least pay for a decent lunch, often enough to pay for lunch and dinner ?  The more ID information they get the less likely they'll dig so many holes.

My usual field detecting spot this afternoon had messy holes dug on it and not even refilled so I spent my time fixing someone else's mess, they left some of their finds sitting in the holes and they were just a bunch of junk including some nails and rusty bottle tops, so they were digging it all.   I've never stumbled across another detector user in my area so I assume someone got one for Christmas or it's someone from out of town.  Either way, had they had a better detector and some education they'd likely not have dug holes all over the place for no reason.

It really annoys me when companies make and sell detectors with no Target ID's targeting beginners, the people most likely to do the wrong thing digging holes.  Releasing kids detectors with a happy face for non-ferrous and a sad one for ferrous is criminal!   This is Bounty Hunters kids detector.

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It really pains me to see detectors like this being sold, imagine the holes a kid will be digging and you can bet the parents won't be letting them dig them in their own back yard.

Why in this day and age do they need to sell something like this?

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Then if you go into their $200 USD and over models, it looks terrible for the price.

https://www.detecting.com/bounty-hunter-serious-metal-detectors.htm#sharp

I know absolutely nothing about Bounty hunter as they're not sold here and not generally a brand I'd be looking to buy a detector from but this is just incredible.  The manufacturing cost of something like this Camo-LS detector would hardly be any different to a F75.

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Paying that price for something with 9 segments of ID.   Surely they don't really sell them for these prices and the website must be so out of date with its pricing, well I certainly hope so.

Anyway that's my rant over, I just don't think they should be selling detectors like this at all, their high end sales must be low enough now they can justify killing off all these low end toys and replace them with their better detectors and actually truly become competitive in the low end market with other manufacturers.  Maybe I'm just grumpy as I spent so many hours cleaning up someone else's mess but the less target information a detector gives the more holes they will dig. 

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Simon,

   Sorry to hear that you have a hole and trash leaver; damn Yanks!?

    Seriously though, the "treasure" shows are probably partly to blame for them, and others taking advantage in the low end market! I figure this will work itself out in the long run! but in the meantime, it's making them money! At least your ground assassin's are few and far between!??

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Yea, I was grumpy and took it out on Bounty Hunter ? The problem is everyone around this area knows me, and knows I'm the guy with the detectors in the area and know I use them in that field, I'd be the one to get the blame.  I had no choice but to try fix it up.

It's very easy for people to ruin it for everyone and the dig it all no Target ID detectors are partly to blame.  I always recommend very easy to use stable Target ID detectors to people wanting to take up detecting, and give them a Target ID list to make their cherry picking a breeze and I've had some very happy feedback from people about their choice of detector after following that advice, some pay off their detector in "spendies" which are NZ $1 and $2 coins in no time.  They cut their teeth digging easy coin targets with the Target ID list and by the time they're ready to branch out and find other targets they have a better understanding of what to do.

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Paying a bit extra for a digital target ID readout detector makes sense for someone who has a chance of staying with the hobby.  Many people who buy Christmas and birthday gifts are very much into cost, not value.  They might even think "so-and-so isn't going to stay with this anyway so why should I spend one extra dollar..."

As far as a better featured detector leading beginning detectorists respect the land, though....  We park, school, beach detectorists have a more/less similar historical experience to compare to -- the aluminum can pulltab.  Early on (1965-75) those weren't attached to the can so it was easy to toss them aside.  There was already an advertising campaign here in the USA regarding littering.  That didn't work (or at least not well enough).  So the can industry was forced to try something different -- the 'square tab' (and eventually 'racetrack tab', 'modern tab') still in use today.  The other component of that design was a (small) coin-sized flap that was pushed into the can.  Surely these changes would solve the problem.  And the cans themselves?  At least the people who cut the grass will pick them up before mowing.

What you propose makes sense, but only for people who have sense -- a sense of responsibility.

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