Equinox = Disappointment Coming For Dedicated Salt Beach Detectorists?

[dewcon4414]

Gary....... im thinking a lot like you... minus the wife lol.   I currently have to choose the best time to use the CTX.   On those big swell days you sure dont want to try and push the CTX..... its not worth the effort because you just dont have the coil control needed.   Lucky im on the Gulf side.   Its nice for those 4am hunts with the lite screen........ unlike the Xcal.   Ill likely put the machine on my own CF straight shaft.... the longer swing covers more sand/water as well.   I hunt in PP with the Xcal..... so there really isnt a lot of recovery speed like in disc.... and for the most part recovery isnt a problem for me....... BUT THEN, you dont know do you until you start finding targets?   It may come into play a LOT more in the dry sand with those higher freq....... all that tiny stuff.   You can bet ill be testing it on small chains......i might actually have to buy a PPer.  I have no expectations of it being deeper either ........ but maybe better if its more efficient out there by covering more sand faster, getting smaller targets, or those near iron missed by the other two.   We may look at how this machine out performs BBS/FBS differently than ML.   How will we judge this machines water real potential?   Im thinking an end of year count.   Ill be running mine full time...... thats a lot of hours in a year and should have a good handle on where its strengths lie.   I often hit a beach 2 or 3 days in a roll with different machines.   Im sure ill get a hunt with another guy i know to do some target comparisons as well who knows his CTX.   Im hoping it noise cancels as well as the CTX.   You cant even get in the same neighbor hood with two Xcals lol.   But the CTX does a nice job allowing you to hunt near someone.

[☠ Cipher]

My understanding of BBS/FBS is that it's not all that we've been led to believe it is. The idea that FBS would transmit, receive and process 28 frequencies simultaneously is pretty ambitious. On closer consideration, Minelab only claims to transmit 28. Carl Moreland, formerly of Whites, now First Texas, is convinced beyond doubt that based on his tests FBS only uses (transmits, receives, and processes) 2 frequencies, and the same 2 (3.25khz and 25khz) with the rest being harmonic echoes of the base frequencies that any multifrequency machine could claim to transmit and which serve no useful purpose other than marketing. The clever stuff to him is the sequence in which those frequencies are fired and the way the half life of the 3.25khz frequency is utilized. So it will be interesting to see, if all this is true, how a machine that actually uses (transmits, receives, and processes) 5 frequencies does in saltwater and if Minelab is downplaying it there for obvious reasons. One thing I found curious is when Steve reported what seemed to be no loss of depth from single frequency mode to Multi-iQ. This almost suggests to me that Multi-iQ may not be so much "simultaneous" as sequential, in rapid succession. 

[Nuke em]

On 1/14/2018 at 4:47 AM, ☠ Cipher said:

My understanding of BBS/FBS is that it's not all that we've been led to believe it is. The idea that FBS would transmit, receive and process 28 frequencies simultaneously is pretty ambitious. On closer consideration, Minelab only claims to transmit 28. Carl Moreland, formerly of Whites, now First Texas, is convinced beyond doubt that based on his tests FBS only uses (transmits, receives, and processes) 2 frequencies, and the same 2 (3.25khz and 25khz) with the rest being harmonic echoes of the base frequencies that any multifrequency machine could claim to transmit and which serve no useful purpose other than marketing. The clever stuff to him is the sequence in which those frequencies are fired and the way the half life of the 3.25khz frequency is utilized. So it will be interesting to see, if all this is true, how a machine that actually uses (transmits, receives, and processes) 5 frequencies does in saltwater and if Minelab is downplaying it there for obvious reasons. One thing I found curious is when Steve reported what seemed to be no loss of depth from single frequency mode to Multi-iQ. This almost suggests to me that Multi-iQ may not be so much "simultaneous" as sequential, in rapid succession. 

My mate told me that the FBS at best transmit only a few freqs at a time . And maybe the Equinox will too ? Not being any good at electronics i wouldn't know and as long as they work i dont care either . In any case the fact still remains that they are the best on the salt wet other than a PI . The V3i is supposed to be multi freq and uses 3 freqs , are they used the same way as FBS or do they run together ? They can be used singularly too like or similar to the Equinox . 

[Steve Herschbach]

The number of transmitted frequencies is a marketing thing. All that matters is frequencies received and processed. Even more important is how the frequencies are processed.

[dewcon4414]

I dont think anyone hunting a salt water beach is going to be disappointed....... in fact i think ML may have to change that suggestion that its not as good as BBS/FBS out there for gold at least.