Steve Herschbach Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Well, I took a bunch of crown caps found with other detectors and bench/air tested the responses and posted with a photo. And although I have not had an issue digging bottle caps with Equinox it was promptly misinterpreted as meaning I am out digging lots of bottle caps with the Equinox. The post and those that followed have therefore been deleted. Chase, Minelab has tried to normalize target id responses in all frequencies and modes but there may be slight variations. These in turn might be helpful in cross analyzing results in different modes or frequencies, but it will remain for a study of shipping units to determine if there is anything there that is useful. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabin Fever Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I apologize for my part in this. Good information is now lost do to my post.. Time for me to reevaluate the way I respond to forum posts for this is starting to become a pattern for me... Again, I’m sorry.. Bryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 46 minutes ago, Cabin Fever said: I apologize for my part in this. Good information is now lost do to my post.. Time for me to reevaluate the way I respond to forum posts for this is starting to become a pattern for me... Again, I’m sorry.. Bryan Bryan, it was not you. More posts in a similar theme piled on and so this is not about or aimed at any person. I was leery of posting the photo in particular because of the thousand unintended words it invoked. Take 50 bottle caps, air test them with a CTX and post a photo of the 50 caps along with the target id information. All targets have to read someplace, so have at it. Now, when you post those results, does it mean the CTX is a bottle cap digging monster? No. Most would say just the opposite. “But hey, what about that picture of all the bottle caps dug with the CTX?” says everyone else. And that was where this was heading. From here on out I will pay attention to any bottle caps I actually dig and perhaps discuss those, but trying to air test caps dug with other detectors was apparently not a good idea. I should know better - I hate air tests. All that matters is what I dig or don’t dig, and bottle caps have not been an issue for me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayard Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said: And although I have not had an issue digging bottle caps with Equinox it was promptly misinterpreted as meaning I am out digging lots of bottle caps with the Equinox. The post and those that followed have therefore been deleted. I didn't have any such misinterpretation. What I read is that crown caps report in the same range as pull tabs. If true, that may be a problem for those of us seeking war nickels and other deep nickels. Regardless, I don't think any posts should be deleted unless they are clearly in violation of the forum rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewcon4414 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I had no problem with mine being deleted Steve..... i understand why. But i think you know that bottle caps are the one beach target that with a little depth can be iffy good targets.... thus the huge interest in where they fell. In all fairness ...... it was about coins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Herschbach Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I have been doing the best I can to provide as much information as possible while working around a non-disclosure agreement. I would hope that has earned me just a little understanding and forbearance from people when I feel like I need to backtrack a little. For those who have extended me that courtesy, I thank you. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Mike Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 I personally found the post VERY encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go-rebels Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Steve, how much variability are you seeing in dug nickels? Have you dug any deep, black Buffalos? Do those read as "13?" Thx and keep up the good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Goldman Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 55 minutes ago, Go-rebels said: Steve, how much variability are you seeing in dug nickels? Have you dug any deep, black Buffalos? Do those read as "13?" Thx and keep up the good work. Oh no, not Nickels again! Lol Just poking fun. Seriously though, not sure if Steve has an answer for you, but discussing that level of minute detail regarding visual Target IDs for a very specific target in the absence of audio ID, mode, site, and depth data may not be all that productive, especially if you are considering that at this point you are only getting essentially a single data point. However, that sounds like a GREAT question to ask a larger population of Equinox users after the product is released into the wild. When we can get a broader population of Equinox users and the resulting access to a good deal more data including first hand data then we should find out more useful contextual information on specific targets. Especially since nickels (like gold alloys), as mid conductors, are a notoriously difficult target for any detector to differentiate from mid conductive trash like pull tabs and mixed metal bottle caps, it will be interesting data that can be useful in truly assessing the Equinox's capabilities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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