Grey Ghost Headphones For Equinox Available Soon?

[Daniel Tn]

There has been a huge surge in people using their smart phones as Db readers for headphone volume. I may be to blame for that since I was one of the first to start it for volume comparisons and now it seems as if everyone is doing it and getting different numbers.  I think two of the big probles are the downloadable Apps are different and the phones are diff too.  I can download two or three Db apps and get quite a spread between each program.  One might peak a target at 50 and another app peak the same target at 75.  Then there's also differences in phone microphones, etc.  Some have calibration offsets and some do not.  One App I downloaded was already reading steady 15-20 Db readings by doing nothing and was giving the loudest/highest readings of all the apps.  I assume it was adding the 15-20 to whatever reading I was actually getting.

[Jackpine]

46 minutes ago, Daniel Tn said:

There has been a huge surge in people using their smart phones as Db readers for headphone volume. I may be to blame for that since I was one of the first to start it for volume comparisons and now it seems as if everyone is doing it and getting different numbers.  I think two of the big probles are the downloadable Apps are different and the phones are diff too.  I can download two or three Db apps and get quite a spread between each program.  One might peak a target at 50 and another app peak the same target at 75.  Then there's also differences in phone microphones, etc.  Some have calibration offsets and some do not.  One App I downloaded was already reading steady 15-20 Db readings by doing nothing and was giving the loudest/highest readings of all the apps.  I assume it was adding the 15-20 to whatever reading I was actually getting.

Daniel

I have not tried the apps, using my sound level meter (radio shack) with a nickel as the target I get 54db on the non piezo Hungarian phones.  Sens 20 volume 4, 2 tone vol 10 and pitch 20.

[Chase Goldman]

I made it pretty clear in my post the readings were not calibrated for the actual dB numbers but merely for side-by-side comparison purposes using an identical setup for each pair of phones I tested.  User to user comparisons of actual dB readings should be avoided for this very reason (variability in test setup, hardware, and software used).

[Treasure_Adventure]

It seems to me everyone is assuming it’s the Minelab phones that are have varying volumes, has anyone had a few pairs of ML yellows and a few equinoxs to put them on to ensure it’s not the equinox’s that put out varying volume?

Also definitely DB meters apps and phone mics have a HUGE impact on these readings 

[Daniel Tn]

1 minute ago, Edsped said:

It seems to me everyone is assuming it’s the Minelab phones that are have varying volumes, has anyone had a few pairs of ML yellows and a few equinoxs to put them on to ensure it’s not the equinox’s that put out varying volume?

Also definitely DB meters apps and phone mics have a HUGE impact on these readings 

That's what I was getting at in my post.  People all over the forums are popping up with Db readings and then that leads to comparing their figures with other people's readings. I think it is giving the impression that there is quite a variance within the yellow Minelab phones themselves...maybe even suggesting that there are good batches of them and less than good batches.  That's why I brought up the points about different apps and such, giving different readings even on the same phone.  I didn't mean it to be offensive to anyone here doing the Db testings but from the responses, I guess that's how it was taken.  

[Treasure_Adventure]

2 hours ago, Daniel Tn said:

That's what I was getting at in my post.  People all over the forums are popping up with Db readings and then that leads to comparing their figures with other people's readings. I think it is giving the impression that there is quite a variance within the yellow Minelab phones themselves...maybe even suggesting that there are good batches of them and less than good batches.  That's why I brought up the points about different apps and such, giving different readings even on the same phone.  I didn't mean it to be offensive to anyone here doing the Db testings but from the responses, I guess that's how it was taken.  

Sorry yes I was just reinforcing what you said, it’s a really good point. 

[Chase Goldman]

3 hours ago, Daniel Tn said:

That's what I was getting at in my post.  People all over the forums are popping up with Db readings and then that leads to comparing their figures with other people's readings. I think it is giving the impression that there is quite a variance within the yellow Minelab phones themselves...maybe even suggesting that there are good batches of them and less than good batches.  That's why I brought up the points about different apps and such, giving different readings even on the same phone.  I didn't mean it to be offensive to anyone here doing the Db testings but from the responses, I guess that's how it was taken.  

I wasn't offended, just reinforcing the fact that people shouldn't be comparing absolute dB numbers between posts,as you stated.  People appear to be doing it anyway even though I tried to be clear that was not the point of the post.  We are in violent agreement.  Lol.

[BeachHunter]

I used a calibrated analog dB meter and app dB meter and got the same results between the two meters when testing the Yellow WP Headphones. That’s not to say all apps will produce equal results. Best of luck!

 

[Jackpine]

Okay got the Pelso's today and while not as loud as the Hungarian phones that I have been using there is still plenty of room left to go much higher than I will ever use.  I set the Hungarians at tone vol 10 with master volume set at 4.   With the Kellyco phones,  tone vol is at 25 with master volume at 18 for the same sound level which leaves plenty of adjustment to to go higher than just about anyone would ever need. 

Cord is heavy duty and taller guys especially will appreciate the extra length.

Noise isolation I haven't really tested yet but seems about the same as the Hungarians after the mod I made adding insulation inside the cups.

Have to agree with Daniel on the quality. They get a thumbs up from me.