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it's the weekend, and of course the weather is horrible. But these nasty foggy, rainy cool days are good for something. What is that? It minimizes the number of people at public parks, playgrounds, and other areas that are normally full. So OFF I went with the Nokta Legend in hand. What was found is less than stellar but these are coins that came from a place I've hunted for years. There are still more pennies at that place. I got tired of digging them all and the rain came in harder so just time to go. The haul= 3 quarters, 3 dimes, 2 nickels, a fake kid ring, and an odd penny with a cross seemingly cut in it. I don't know how many pennies there are, I didn't count but it weighed my bag down. Of particular interest is one of the quarters and a couple other coins. Heavy iron and they were being masked. The Legend and LG24 helped me hear there was something else besides iron. Digging revealed coins. My goal is to truly hunt this place out, even of pennies. But the place keeps on giving. Crusty clad if cleaned goes right on to coinstar. Any that is rejected gets another more vigorous scrubbing and a return trip at a later date. Only with practice do you learn a machine and also experiment with what it can do. It was fun!

Sie werden mit dem Nokta Score 2 zufrieden sein

It seems none are willing to have a repeat of when 1.10 beta was out and worked great I hear. But when 1.11 was released something seemed neutered. Really wish the Legend was owned by me when that 1.10 beta was available. Still can't complain with how well it's running right now at 1.13 You hear all the time how different detectors see the same hunted places differently. I never was a real believer in that until I've seen it for myself after using the Legend on the same old places the Teknetics T2, Equinox 600 and 800, and the XP ORX were used on. It's really hard to understand all that, and how those things were missed because they were on down in the ground. The Legend didn't miss them though. Most of the time I'm running LG24 coil. The LG30 has more depth and raw power but that smaller coil really helps separation not to mention weighing less.

I can't speak of the Nokta Double score. I take it that one is like a Nokta Legend but without some of the extra settings. The Equinox 600 is pretty much an Equinox 800 without the extra settings of that one. What I can tell you is I own the Minelab Equinox 800, Minelab X Terra Pro, and the Nokta Legend. The Legend can do all that Equinox 800 can. The XTerra Pro is not on the same level with either of my other two. It's got a lot of power but no way to tame it, to tune it. It's single frequency. I've had an Equinox 600. It worked ok for me but I wanted more settings to tune the tone breaks, the pitch of the tones, and the volume. I also wanted the ability to go single frequency and have the 40khz as an option so I sold my 600 and got the 800. We also can't over look the VERY numerous documented cases of the Equinox 600 and Equinox 800 leaking water. The Nokta detectors so far are not having that problem. For ease of use I'd say the Equinox 600. However the Nokta Double Score seems comparable to that and the build quality is much better than the Equinox 600. Either one of these are going to be above the XTerra Pro in terms of performance. If I had to choose today between the Equinox 600 and Nokta Double Score, I would go with the Nokta. Just my opinion.

What good is it for them to make coils if they aren't readily available? Still waiting for Nokta Legend coils to be available over here in the states.

Simon, I'm upset with ya. You got me on the Nokta Legend and you still haven't gotten one?? What kind of rubbish is that? It's time for you to get one too and enjoy the fun of learning the thing. Surely you can find the funds by selling one of your diamonds from that mine of yours. Simply no excuse Simon.. None at all! The Legend wants to torment you like it has me. It's such a curious machine. What torment you ask.. The torment of knowing there is an excellent aftermarket coil for it that can only be obtained by ordering directly from the factory (NEL). See there is another item you could correct for all of us. I just know you are tenacious enough to force them into shipping some out in multiple countries. Yes, that tenacity would make them see the light and error of their ways.

What an adventure. Times like that are ones to remember. I'm so glad you found something nice. I wish you many more great hunts. Never stop Dirt Fishing, it's good for the nerves and your character!

Went to a local school that I've never found anything good at in the past. Lots of play areas and ball fields but lots of junk. Today was different. these finds are indeed meager compared to some other places but for this place that has never given anything more than a penny here and there this is the best hunt yet at that dead zone. I was surprised because I had dug quite a few aluminum can tabs today. The location is littered with them and other great things like screws, can slaw, loads of 10-11 ID foil, and even larger pieces of foil heading up to the 30-33 range. I was hoping for a ring but every time I dug a ring looking ID and sounded good it was an aluminum can tab. Did find a kids earring, complete with the back on it. Obviously junk but still a small target fished out of a pile of other lesser interesting junk. I didn't include a picture of all the can tabs, can slaw, and pieces of pressed copper pipe. Best thing was the US Dollar coin. Only the second one I've found metal detecting. This brings the Legend up even with the Equinox 800 on those. Does anyone else ever take a little while to get "warmed up" when detecting? I seem to peak at about the 45 minute to 1 hour mark and really connecting with the machine and also the feel of the place I'm hunting. At about the 2 hour mark it wanes a bit and the arm gets to hurting, but I've pushed it pretty hard the past few hunts and extending out the hunt time. Tendonitis sucks. And I had a messed up eye today. Chronic dry eye and rubbing real hard when you wake up equals a BLOODSHOT eye. Went to eye doc and got some stuff. Looks rough but is essentially a bruise in the eye. Looks like death though.. LOL Not my first time having it over the years. Even with one eye not 100% and tendonitis in my swing arm still found stuff in a crappy location!! YEAH that is what it is all about!

Please help those people see the light.. At the very least the marketing person should be flogged repeatedly by all office staff until they can recognize the difference between a Garrett detector and an FTP device.

I look forward to the day a F75 ltd can be had for $250 NEW. LOL The marketing ads look weird. Especially that last one. They seemingly dug up what? Looked like some kids pendant from a grocery store 50 cent turn vendor. Some find that was. Maybe there are tapping into some Lithium-rich water and consuming too much of it? Nonetheless, Fisher has made some good machines in the past but sure seems they are content to be the "vintage" maker these days. I'm confused about what altered state of reality they are living in. Putting out new weirdo ads on very old hardware? That just looks stupid.

I don't know about anyone else, but when I went to 1.14 b2 there was a significant DROP in my maximum wireless headphone volume level vs what it was before. Even trying different wireless headphones still equaled somewhere around a 50% reduction in maximum volume through the wireless audio. I'm going to flash back down to a lower version and see if that corrects it. Also not sure why they would send out that message about removing the 1.14 beta 2 and going back down to 1.13 Has that always been something they told owners to do after a beta period was over? Just odd. UPDATE- I re-flashed to 1.13 and my wireless volume returned to what it should be. Very strange. Will miss the DT feature but maybe some things are better off being missed if it caused my machine another problem. Nokta, I'm watching you 👁️

Minelab just keeps on killing it- yes all the incentives for buying their products. If they keep at it like this being sneaky and cheap along with putting something so important as the battery on a mere 6 month warranty they are really mashing their own crotch. It's becoming more clear they only want to sell their stuff and once that is done they are done with you. It always starts with small things. I get it that batteries are not always reliable, but 6 months? Come on man, the least you can do is 12 months on the battery. Wish I had known the XTerra Pro worked only with those extra expensive special Minelab headphones that adds another $100 tot he final purchase (I won't pay that). Now I learn the battery has a mere 6 month warranty too? Yeah that great deal isn't looking so great now.

That is a real 💩 sandwich. Defective coil and they make the customer pay. That isn't customer service. That's just slack. As big a company that Minelab is and with all their money they could have sent you a call tag/shipping label. I'm sure they would not have been on the hook for $9.99 it would have been much less since they do volume. I also am not impressed with the "can't find your registration" game either. Obvious stall tactic. I always felt like when Jamie left Minelab it would be poop. Sure sounds to be the case. She was the best.

Hmm. Anything is possible in these times. I believe the major problem with Minelab is they have always been on a high horse and have the mentality they are the best and accordingly feel free to charge crazy prices. With the way things have went up in cost the last year or so that really puts the brakes on a lot of people spending extra. Meanwhile, Minelab has kept on raising prices but yet we see now a significant price reduction on their newest detector the Manticore. That was unexpected. No doubt Minelab has proven itself time and time again over the years setting standards others couldn't achieve. But while they were doing it they were also creating some adversaries. Their arrogance precedes them. And that arrogance is not pretty. It appears Minelab enjoys trying to sue people anytime they get too close in competition. A cowardly tactic. Would I want to see Minelab go completely away? No. But I would like for them to stop being so greedy. Their arrogance level and greed approaches and surpasses that of White's at their peak. But we know how that ended, huh? Minelab has had a good run, they've lined their pockets with gold at the expense of consumers. The Equinox 700/900 and manticore ushered in a new line, one that doesn't make use of the Equinox 600/800's headphones and other accessories. This of course is another money grab/proprietary garbage tactic they have used many times over the years and its getting old. There is no reason why the headphones from the EQ600/800 can't work in full AptX LL mode UNLESS Minelab specifically CHOSE to not allow it and went a step further by only whitelisting their headphones. I learned this when I bought the Xterra Pro recently. Had I known that beforehand I would not have bought it. Stuff like that has me done with Minelab. I like my EQ800 but no more Minelab for me. I wish them well, but tend to agree with you, their gig is about up.

Hell, who wouldn't be happy??!! The best of both worlds. The Legend for rough and tumble stuff down in the muck to dig everything when you were bored, and the Versa for cherry picking places first. Seems like a winning combo. Can you tell me if that Rutus Versa is actually better than the Legend by a large margin or is it just my infatuation with the Versa at the moment that is blinding me. I don't have the Versa but lust for it badly. I do have the Legend, The Equinox 800, and the XTerra Pro. The 3 Stooges.

Hey Sir.. You're just making it worse on me with this Rutus Versa lust condition I've developed. That thing is awesome! Only negatives are price, availability, and a small-ish screen. If the videos can be trusted on its seemingly supernatural ability to separate, it's a real gem of a detector. That right there is what I've always looked for and never found. Sadly, like most things it may look good but you never know until it is in your hands. Will you mesh with it, understand it, like the feel, the sound, etc. So many things come into play. Youtube can sometimes be a terrible influence. I remember a long time ago I got my hands on a new Minelab Explorer S. I never found a single coin with that thing. It just didn't make any sense to me how it worked, and all the flute music really threw my mind for a flip. It was a somewhat heavy detector too but I was younger then and could swing it with no problem. Due to its cost I really didn't want to use it for fear of tearing it up. So it was sold (at a loss). Looking back today on that situation it's clear I was a moron back then who had no patience and a bad case of being unrealistic to think it would magically find things because it costed more. Much younger, stronger, had hair on my head, and stubborn but still a moron nonetheless. I don't want to repeat that lesson again, so I haven't launched out to buy a Rutus Versa no matter how much it costs or what I must sacrifice to get it. My mediocre sites don't warrant such money to be spent at this point in time. If things align right, and I get an inflow of cash (very unlikely)I would gladly obtain one. But for now it is a detector that looks appealing and something to drool over.

You naughty, Naughty Man! Your brute strength has offended the Nokta people.. LOL

Yeah forget that Fakebook crowd and the other "social media" platforms like TikTom, TweeterX, Insta-grass, WeChoke, TeleGoon, and Snapchump. Half of what is wrong with the younger folks today is basing their entire lives off that poison. The other half is pure laziness.

Well, it sure seems they are serious about going up against Minelab. It's hard to deny the fact they are being competitive with the pricing. For the price they have on the FindX($139), it is very appealing to new people just thinking about detecting. And the FindX Pro model for $179 adds waterproofing on the entire unit. They are including a stainless digger, wired headphones, AND a carrying bag.. Man that is insane. How are they even doing this? Spec-wise it isn't a bad machine at all. It lacks advanced feature manipulation but does include automatic and manual ground balance. A very simple turn on and go machine. 15khz frequency. Wonder how it will do? The only odd/weird thing I see is charging on the regular FindX. Someone would have to unscrew and remove the search coil to charge. That may be a problem or failure point over time. The FindX Pro is like the Legend for charging, meaning there is a separate port integrated for headphones also.

That was quite the test. Maybe currents have something to do with increasing leakage possibility? Ya know ocean salt water plus washing waves/current pulling and pushing. I believe your Equinox is considered well done at this point with that slow cooking you did on it. LOL

From what I've viewed on the Versa, it is one heck of a detector. It seems to offer excellent performance. The problem though? it would cost an arm and a leg to get one over here across the pond. I really wish they would make it more readily available in the USA. They would sell a lot of them. It is a VERY interesting piece of equipment. For what it is worth, my hard line in the sand on detector cost is $900 US Dollars. For that amount of money it best do everything except dig the target. Yep, I know that is unrealistic but just how I am.

"seems a lot of messing around". Agreed. But the Nokta Pirate Dude was seemingly enjoying it. *shrugs* LOL "I read a lot of people saying the Legend is a bit of an 8" max detector and many comment on it's not very deep compared to others" Well, depends on what the target is I guess. I've already found a coin down in excess of 8 inches. However it was in wood chip tot lot, not dirt and it was very wet in the bottom. Realistically though 8" would be deeper than I want to dig in this red clay rock soil. If it will do that consistently. Phrunt I am totally in agreement with you on the Deep Target feature. I also think they should have renamed it to something more fitting like "Target ID boost" instead. It makes more sense. Heck this should have been in there a few versions back as an option. In my humble and odd opinion I believe Nokta realizes the Legend is falling behind a little bit versus more expensive detectors like the Manticore and Deus 2. But hey, that is OK. How can anyone that is reasonable expect a lower $$$ detector to operate like a $$$$ detector? I sure don't expect that. But I do expect it to be stable and would love to see the Target ID's tightened up even more. Refinement, not more power. More power isn't worth a poop if you can't use it due to instability and distracting chatter/false signals. Clean up the processing of signals, refine it. It will be even more of a formidable detector against others. Power alone is worthless, but separation and better processing/discrimination would be in my book GOLDEN. Look at the Minelab Xterra Pro. It's a freaking beast power wise from what I've seen. But it is so crude in processing the signal the detector is crippled. The Target ID should have been a screen showing ?? instead of numbers. I don't hate it, but it is certainly a beep/dig detector. If you want to dig every signal that is the detector to get.

Totally agree with you on that. The Deep Target ID feature is perhaps the most useful thing from 1.14 That Beast mode is just not for me. I don't see any real world application of it for myself. Why in the world would I want even more instability and guesswork from a detector I'm trying to get more stable dependable operation from? It is rare if I can run sensitivity up to 22 around here. The Black Beard pirate in the Nokta video had the thing cranked to 30. Just not realistic use for me.

I never have submerged my Equinox 800. Not really hunting watery areas. Having so many verified cases of water ingress it's just not a chance I'm willing to take anyway. My Equinox is now over 4 years old. Would imagine the seals over time get even less effective. Were there any confirmed reports on the actual source of the water leaking?

The odds of me using it at a beach are slim. I'm a long way from a beach and the last time I even touched beach sand was back in 2007. Maybe a creek or something around here but even that is unlikely. The places hunted for me are public schools, parks, and an occasional private permission old home site.