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I posted this on another site, but would like to hear more opinions. Like the title says, which is better for general coin /jewelry hunting in Parks, Ballfields, Playgrounds, School yards, etc., Deus or ORX? I know that the main problem with either is probably all the aluminum trash found today in those kinds of sites, and that most hunters probably wouldn't choose either one for that activity. Don't really want to hear about other, "better", units for hunting those sites, just which would be best between these two? Anxious to hear the opinions, and how you came to that conclusion...

Question regarding ground balance please, Reading the DEUS manual, it appears to ground balance in two different ways depending on what mode you are in, Goldfield (or all metal) says it is an exact ground balance point that matches the ground phase. In the discrimination modes it says that all the ground numbers are rejected below the setting. It almost sounds like the ground balance in the motion modes are like the discrimination setting but for the ground region of the scale. Am I right thinking this? and how many different methods are there to achieving ground balance? Thanks.

I’m having huge interference from the Quest using it with both XP models .Changing frequency doesn’t help .It is quiet with the Nox .Any help is welcomed . Also here in Canada having good success with G’s Sonar programme on the Deus ,though one needs to be vigilant with crown caps as they ring high tone .Pull tabs barely make high tone so are mostly recognizable , at least for me in my conditions .

I got a place that has deep coins. I've found a lot there with the Equinox with a lot of them 9 plus inches deep. I'm hoping there are some a little deeper that I've missed with the 11 coil on the Equinox that the 13 deus might pick up...any ways just playing to see what might show up. Also will have the Equinox with me to play with. I've found all the other coins with the recovery speed on 7 and thinking about slowing it down to see what might happen. Like I said, just playing around to see if I can possibly get an older deeper coin. HH!

The XP Orx has been taking quite a bit of heat on this XP detector forum lately. Indirectly, the same can be said for the XP Deus. All I want to say here is that no one detector can do it all the best in all detecting situations. All VLF detectors including the Deus and the Orx are a compromise between speed and depth, accurate numerical target ID and accurate tone ID, simultaneous multi frequency and single or selectable single frequency, waterproof or not, great ergonomics and ergonomics better suited for a bionic human. Personally, I would not go on a relic hunt without a Deus or Orx. The same goes for a gold prospecting trip. I know some people (I am not yet one of them) that are absolute masters with a Deus in aluminum trashed parks when coin and jewelry hunting. All in all, one of these two XP detectors are tools I will never be totally without. I have struggled with them, had some of my best and worst detecting experiences with them, sold several of them saying "never again" only to buy another after realizing what I was missing.......... Using them in the best ways that suit my hunting style and for my hunting situations, while knowing and accepting their great qualities and limitations has been the key to making them work for me when I need them the most.

Question: Does anyone else have a problem with the ws5 headphones battery going dead while they're turned off? They are updated to 5.21...twice !! Could it be the headphones have a problem or is it the battery? It's certainly not normal. Thanks!

Special thanks to Calabash digger for his reasearch on the pitch mode being good in iron , and His heads up on keeping the silencer at -1 so the target does not get masked in iron . well i used the pitch mode on the DEUS and kept the silencer @ -1 and it came thru for me , Got a good hit on many non ferrous targets today and some right next to iron . i was using the full tones but when i seen Calabash diggers VDs on the pitch mode i had to try that and it has proven to work very well the VDI on this target was 49 and 50 right where a 22 casing comes in or some foils . glad i dug it

I’d have to say the Orx has been a successful venture for XP. But what comes next? Their R&D must be working on a next generation detector, so what direction do you think they will go? An incremental change in existing technology or a whole new direction? I haven’t a clue but I’m interested in what others think might be coming in the future, although right now I’m sure their focus is on getting their stock replenished after COVID

trying to decide , 11inch coil x35 or the 11x13 x35 anyone have experience with both

Does anyone have any advice on how to make the arm cuff wider. I don't remember the orx being this tight. I don't have large forearms so I know there's guys having the same problem. Thanks!

Heading to low country in South Carolina looking for good custom programs to pick out those rev war buttons.

Jan 29, 2021 by Relics & Rings - Quick video for those who are interested in setting up the Deus for gold nugget hunting.

I have a standard Deus with the 9.5 and 9 inch HF coils. There is gold in our area, though the pieces are generally quite small, under 1/10th of a gram for sure. Anyone have any experience or advice on hunting gold with the Deus? Most of our gold is in big rocks and cobble as well so it's hard to work around them and get the depth we need. Your thoughts? Thanks Brett

Hey guys, I'm gonna geek out on this debriefing report 🙂 A couple of friends were down in my area of CA @ early November to do some beach hunting. At the conclusion of their stay, one was kind enough to loan me his Deus for a few weeks. Which I will ship back to him when done. Over the years I've heard how this is supposed to be the "cat's meow" in nail/iron-riddled sites. But never had my hands on one personally. I've always just reached for my Tesoro Bandito in such situations. Which, as you know, is wimpy on depth, has no TID, etc. Then a fellow I know gave me an hour's tutorial over the phone from Virginia a few days ago. Walked me through all the settings, pros/cons, etc.... Last night I was able to take it on a maiden test voyage to a certain adobe site. An "adobe site" in CA, is our version of what the east coast guys would probably call a "cellar hole" site. This site was the adobe home of a Mexican land grant recipient. Granted in the early 1830s. Although the dude might already have homesteaded the place earlier. This is just his formal grant date. And since this was on the road between 2 mission era towns, it was a stopping spot in those days. Ie.: hospitality to travelers, did trading, etc.... Today is nothing but a faint rectangle outline of adobe melt in a hilly cow pasture area. After the gold rush and statehood, this was one of a myriad of the 800-ish land grants in CA, that just got taken over by the incoming settlers. Either via bought out, or legal maneuvers , etc.... And apparently by the 1860s, was abandoned. The *newest* coin we ever found there, was an 1860s IH. When we first researched it in about 1995, it was SO thick with targets, that we literally went into park mindset. Eg.: going high disc, avoiding iron-ridden patches, and not bothering to dig anything that didn't ring the bells of Notre Dame. Just so many targets to choose from. I filled a box with 10 or 20 lbs with green copper, endless cool doohickeys (mankiller balls, gun parts, endless henry shells, lantern parts, buttons, etc....). All told we've pulled about 20 to 25 period coins from here. Many reales, many early seateds, etc.... And perhaps 15 phoenix buttons. By the early 2000s, all the "easy gimmees" were picked off. Leaving only the thicker iron zones to get more stuff. Because go figure, when we started in 1995-ish, it was machines like XLT, 6000 Di pro, Whites Eagle, and Fisher CZ6. None of which are known for ability in heavy iron. Then eventually using creative arsenals to see through the iron, we got to where even the iron zone was getting stingy. So today, the site is nothing more than a test zone. For testing machines for their iron-see-through ability. Such that .... even if you only got some more camp lead or copper snippets you KNOW that your machine or method you're testing is competitive. Ie.: a sport-unto-itself JUST to eek some more conductors from there (even if they're not turning out to be coins ). Thus this was the perfect test site for the Deus . Started with the "basic" (#1) pre-set program, and modified from there. Assume the basic pre-sets, unless listed here : 1) Disc : negative 1 2) Full tones 3) sens : 90 4) Frequency : 17.6 5) Iron volume : 1 6) Reactivity : 4 7) Target volume 5 8) Audio overload : 0 9) GB (ground balance): 85 10) contrast : 10 The results were astounding : 16 conductive targets. See the pix. And as you can see, several of them *could* have been coins. I especially like the lock-dust cover. That was deep ! Of course , since I'm just learning, I got fooled by cast-iron. There is a different sound, but nagging doubts sent me to dig a few "just to be sure". More than I would have been fooled by the explorer, yet more conductive targets that the Explorer would have found last night. And the ratio actually wasn't that punishing. Like if I got 16 conductors, I don't think I got more than 5 or 6 iron . And for several of those conductors, there was utterly no doubt. So theoretically I could have been more picky, and dug zero iron. But it's a trade off , since some targets could be fighting masking. Hope y'all enjoyed the report. Looks like I'll be looking to buy one of these, as soon as this loaner period is over 🙂

⁉️ Which one is better? Has anyone done a comparison test between the two coils for a jewelry hunt in the water? (freshwater or land) Both are able to use the same frequency. 28 kHz is very good for detecting gold. When I hunt in the water it is a very useful feature of target ID normalization. On the of LF coil, this was a big advantage. I set the gold range, so I only dug out the signals that belong to it. The HF 9" coil is great, but when I increase the frequency the VDI changes, getting higher and higher. The upper range will become narrower. This makes it difficult to decide whether to dig or not. Let's look at an example. A 1.5 g 14K wedding ring is the test object. HF 9 "coil at 14 kHz = ID 50, 28 kHz = ID 65, 56 kHz = ID 79. X35 11 "coil 11.3 kHz = ID 54, 16.4 kHz = ID 54, 25.4 kHz = ID 54! If I use frequency offset these numbers will change a bit. The general opinion of many people is that the HF coil is the best. I'm not so sure about that. I looked at this idea in terms of the gold jewelry hunt.

I was showing my orx and deus lite to a friend and he wanted to buy the orx so I sold it and bought the deus controller. He loves the orx (so did I) and now I'm really liking the deus. I've been using 5-G-MAXX and checking each target with 6-DEEP (xy screen)to see the correlation between the two on targets. It takes very little effort to switch back and forth and I think I'm starting to see the difference between good targets and bad ones.(after a LOT of digging) I say lot of digging but I've only been out with it twice. Anyways, after hitting the signal I knew it wasn't a coin but the XY screen said better investigate...glad I did. My first Civil War spur. I think the extra info you get really helps with the dig or not dig decisions we all have to make. Just some thoughts so far using my Deus. Any advice appreciated! Thanks! Tom

I have been forcing my self to use my Deus more here lately. I am finding that I like the Deus very much. For the most part I am using Gold Maxx and deus fast. I have a custom deep program I use as well. What I am getting at is i am not really using as many of the programs and settings. I fiddle between 2 for the most part and some times 3. And that is Deus fast and either gold Maxx or the deep Custom one I made. I have been thinking of selling either my Deus remote set up and keeping the ORX or selling the ORX remote set up. I like the ORX for the large easy to see screen and iron probability bar. Plus I only fiddle with the coin programs anyway. I actually favor the ORX to tell you the truth. They are slightly different animals. And each has their own strong points. But target and depth between the 2 are equal. Who else has the same delima??

Yesterday i wanted to see how the HF coil staked up against the x35 coil in my test garden , I wanted to see how it did on high conductors . 8" dime 7" dime, 6" dime, 7" pull tab, and a 7" cut nail pointed at a 45 degree angle to make it false good . I used the ,Deep program, 7 disc, 2 reaction speed, silencer 1, 93 gain, bumped up the audio volume to 6, and to my amazment it hit all targets good and this at 50KHz I also have to 3" cut nails laying flat at 5" the one has a nickle 1" under it , and the other just the nail . so at the factory pre set of 5.5disc i was getting a high tone on the cut nail and i adjusted up the disc untill it went to a low sound , that was 7 disc but when i went over the cut nail with the nickle under it i got a clear high tone unmasking the nickle , so i wanted to take it out to the 30,s tar paper shack and see what it could do with an earea i had cleared of brush and went over many times. it was not long i started hitting 22 short shell casings and slugs, and to my great amazment a 1930,s shot shell , could hardly think i had missed it , but it was the 50KHZ was just picking things out in the iron , very pleased with it , i did dig several iron targets one was a fence post nailand a round tarepaper washer, and two pices of flat iron and at least two nails , but the performance was very noticeable at how good it is at hunting in the iron and still getting reasonable depth

What happens when you turn off ID normalization on the Deus?? Does bottle caps ring up lower and other targets spread out on the spectrum better?? Or does everything just run up to 95??

I just put together a deus lite and I'm needing some input on what works good to set up wireless headphones with it. Thanks!

A few weeks ago I got WS4 headphones to get a Deus lite setup out of my Orx. I liked using it so much I decided to get a Deus controller so I can make use of target ID and other functions like horseshoe and X-Y, etc. the only way I can get the remote and WS4 to work together is by first turning on the WS4 and after its initialized with correct coil, then I turn on the remote. I don’t think this is the right way, but it doesn’t work if I turn on the remote first. Could someone explain to this idiot the right procedure for starting up Deus to work with WS4 headphones?

Had a little fun comparing Deus Fast vs the Sonar program on an iron infested site. Didn't find anything good while filming the comparisons but I mixed in some good finds made by the Deus.

Is it not possible to adjust the reactivity with the ws4's?In the manual it says hold the minus button for 2 sec and the disc will flash, then you can adjust reactivity. If I hold the minus down it just goes into hyper mode lowering the disc. Is there something I'm doing wrong or...don't know or understand. Thanks!

Hi everyone! Hope y'all doing great! Yesterday i recorded a 1h Live Video on my own Facebook Group. I used a iron slag so simulate a mineralized soil and compared signals. Let me know your thoughts. Would really like to "ear" Calabash Digger opinion too! Most of you probably don't know, but that dude is one of my role models... Calabash, if you are reading this, let me tell you something: If you need anything from Europe that can help for your videos, let me know! I'll be glad to ship some Roman iron, Medieval iron, mineralized pottery fragments, Iron Slag like the one in this video, Hammered coins... I don't want anything in return, because you already gave me so much by doing your videos! Btw, I forgot about something regarding the little gold coin. On that day, while I was in Field 1 and the other guy was on Field 2, I had a recovery speed of 5 and max sensitivity, no iron bias. The other guy had a recovery speed of 3 and 23 sensitivity. ( can't remember if he had some iron bias, I think he had a level 3, but I'm not sure). Sorry for the long video, but I had to talk about my experiences and point of view. Hope you enjoy!