Fisher CZX Metal Detector "Ground Breaking Technology"

[Elbert]

Been lurking here for quite some time. Great site with allot of information. Not many can match it.

Has there been in new news on these two detectors ?  I'm interested in both for salt water beach and relic hunting here on the Central Coast Section (Monterey Bay Area) of California.

Thanks for any info.

El

 

 

[Steve Herschbach]

Hi Elbert, and welcome to the forum. No new information that I am aware of beyond the fact that 2016 is slipping by with no sign of an introduction. Delays happen for many reasons in the detector industry to the point where I think they can just be expected. Personally I like rumors and speculation but ultimately I just believe them when I see them.

[Desert Dawg]

Been doing some thinking on the new Fisher CZX, they say 9-1 frequency ratio, well why not build it at least say 71 khz high frequency with a low of 7.88khz frequency, so it mimics the Gold Bug 2 for tiny gold detection with its high freq, or even better do 80khz high and 8.88 khz low freq if its possible to do in the electronics. We all know the success of the GB2 over other vlf detectors due to this high khz.

Deus seems to be coming out with a high freq coil of 80 khz elliptical soon which I think is a great idea. However their detector is single freq, so the CZX should possibly  be able to walk all over the Deus for deeper gold as well as grain size  gold at the surface, between the two freqs working at the same time and the new form of ground balance they speak of.

[Mark Gillespie]

I can say the new CZX  will have me hooked if it will meet or beat my TDI SL.

I've dug a lot of nice barbers since getting my SL.  Most are pounded areas and void of all good targets, or so I thought.

 

[Mark Gillespie]

On ‎6‎/‎1‎/‎2015 at 3:49 PM, Steve Herschbach said:

CZX - Fisher and Teknetics

• This machine is ground breaking technology
• Turn on and go
• 2 frequency - 9:1 ratio
• No need to ground balance or adjust the detector to the environment
• It automatically senses the ground and makes changes accordingly.
• First detector birthed from this platform is a gold unit priced around $1000, but deeper than current VLF, this detector will also see through red dirt, and highly mineralized soil.
• From this platform other machines will develop. We intend to develop the CZX and MOSCA platforms to offer more machines in the $1000 to $2000 range than have ever been available.
• Target release 2016
• We have senior engineer Dave Johnson on this project

Still hoping for this to be released this year.  Two feature are a must for me, "see through red dirt, and highly mineralized soil" Can't imagine that will be accomplished (they had to start somewhere)with a VLF machine, but I can hope.  I've found a lot of nice gold and silver with my TDI SL and many times over with nails, so discrimination is a must for me.

 

[Steve Herschbach]

The problem is First Texas is missing a window of opportunity if it takes too much longer. The new Minelab Gold Monster 1000 just took a big chunk out of the "turn on and go" gold detector market.

Presumably as a two frequency detector the CZX will bring something new to the table. So far engineers have chosen single frequency due to its ability to deliver more punch on targets in a specific conductive range. Dave's previous offering in this area, the CZ models, run at 5 kHz and 15 kHz, a 3:1 ratio. The CZX is claiming 9:1 and if the low end remained 5 kHz the upper end would be 45 kHz, a solid gold frequency.

So I am imagining a "hot CZ" but with the GM1000 at $799 with two coils and the TDI SL just reduced to $989 it's going to have to either reject ground better than the GM1000 or hit small gold better than the TDI SL. Nothing at all has been said about the discrimination capability of the CZX, if any. I took the announcement above as implying the first version might be all metal only with the mention of discrimination going missing like it is. This information is now so old however we really have no idea as to what final unit features may look like.

Time will tell, but hopefully not too much more time. Like you Mark I hope we see this detector this year. The First Texas model shuffling and price reductions seem to indicate this might be in the cards, but that could just as well be an attempt to keep the sales afloat while the new models undergo further refinement. Although this year would be nice my bet is now on 2018. Unless the project stalled entirely. Some good ideas just never come to fruition and the recent hire pointing to a renewed push by First Texas in the area of pulse induction might indicate this is just not working out.

[Mike C...]

Ive been waiting for this beeper to come to the play field for sometime now-hopefully soon -when fisher puts something out its usually rock solid and hopefully upgrades will be offered like they did on the F75 series-Come on fisher  Mike C...

[Mark Gillespie]

Any word from these projects?

 

[Steve Herschbach]

Sadly, no. I have bumped this from the "hopefully in 2017" to the "hopefully in 2018" column. There is however still a possibility of a late announcement in time for Christmas. The window is closing fast there however and if nothing happens by October then its probably game over for 2017.