New D2 Software

[Zord]

There was a time in the past when the French were incredibly fast and responsive...

 

 

[Doc Bach]

4 hours ago, Detectornado said:

What are the chances they will introduce a elliptical coil(s) with the new software? Could this be a reason that it takes this long?

Pleasant thoughts, although probably just wishful thinking? But on the other hand, nothing at all wrong with positive thinking....And cheers to you if that is correct.Definitely a different angle to a somewhat frustrating topic and situation for most.

[CPT_GhostLight]

6 hours ago, Detectornado said:

What are the chances they will introduce a elliptical coil(s) with the new software? Could this be a reason that it takes this long?

Yes, please! ?

I can wait for both as long as it takes, but I'm ready when they are. ?

I have an advantage because I'm not in a race fighting for scraps on detector crowded beaches and parks, so I'll just plod along enjoying my toys, finding what I'm finding, and not finding what I'm not finding until we get whatever goodies XP has in store for us. Have fun out there, after all that's what it's all about... for me anyway. ?

[raziel900]

1 hour ago, CPT_GhostLight said:

Yes, please! ?

I can wait for both as long as it takes, but I'm ready when they are. ?

I have an advantage because I'm not in a race fighting for scraps on detector crowded beaches and parks, so I'll just plod along enjoying my toys, finding what I'm finding, and not finding what I'm not finding until we get whatever goodies XP has in store for us. Have fun out there, after all that's what it's all about... for me anyway. ?

it's not a matter of fun, the deus 2 hits the targets but it's incomplete! 
it's a matter of respect for us customers, 
we spent a lot of money and after more than a year we have a beta product... 
but above all their silence is even more embarrassing! 
I think they are in trouble with the update otherwise it is inexplicable!

[UKD2User]

15 minutes ago, raziel900 said:

it's not a matter of fun, the deus 2 hits the targets but it's incomplete! 
it's a matter of respect for us customers, 
we spent a lot of money and after more than a year we have a beta product... 
but above all their silence is even more embarrassing! 
I think they are in trouble with the update otherwise it is inexplicable!

With the greatest of respect, I think you're getting a little bit carried away ?.... Of course the D2 can be improved, and I have every confidence that it will be, but it's already a world-class machine (on the beach and in amongst modern/ancient pollution particularly).

I think that XP are wise to only release new software when they are 100% confident in it.

The alternative to XP's approach would be to make an announcement and then to continually fail to deliver against it (any similarity with other manufacturers would be entirely coincidental...?)...

[1moar]

7 hours ago, Zord said:

There was a time in the past when the French were incredibly fast and responsive...

 

 

Oh I think they may have a little speed yet LOL;

 

 

[raziel900]

2 hours ago, UKD2User said:

Con il massimo rispetto, penso che ti stai facendo prendere un po 'la mano ? .... Naturalmente il D2 può essere migliorato, e ho piena fiducia che lo sarà, ma è già una macchina di classe mondiale (sulla spiaggia e in particolare tra l'inquinamento moderno / antico).

Penso che XP sia saggio rilasciare nuovo software solo quando sono sicuri al 100% in esso.

L'alternativa all'approccio di XP sarebbe quella di fare un annuncio e poi non riuscire continuamente a farlo contro di esso (qualsiasi somiglianza con altri produttori sarebbe del tutto casuale ... ? ) ...

yet with the deus 2 I find it difficult to hit small medieval coins in the middle of the iron,
 the targets that exist in the United States are different from the European ones ... 
for example I found the 6-inch plate with the nokta makro legend great 
for hitting those small medieval coins disguised in iron and it doesn't cost 1600€ :)

[Bill (S. CA)]

I've debated throwing in on this topic because sometimes these types of discussions can become toxic.  So I will state right off the bat that this is only my opinion.

With that being said...it was only a few years ago when detectors could not be updated.  We bought the detectors, figured out their warts, shortcomings AND advantages and learned how to use them.  That's just how it was.

Now we have detectors that can be updated and that is for the most part a good thing.  But keep this in mind: manufacturers are under no obligation to update their products. They could easily lock these new detectors and move on to the next one.

Instead they choose not to and suddenly there is this backlash where some folks feel that they are entitled to updates immediately and continually.  To call a new detector a "beta" is grossly unfair.  Unless a manufacturer releases a beta update to solicit user feedback, it is absolutely absurd to think that any company would knowingly release a flawed detector.  I can tell you first hand that these detectors are tested and tested and retested, both in the lab and in the field.  That doesn't mean that they are perfect and in fact they may have bugs that were missed.  It only means that in the company's view the detector is ready for release. 

Further, while it is easy to say "oh, Detector X needs this feature because it has a problem in this environment," making that statement assumes that updating software on a metal detector is as easy as changing out a car battery.  Please.  For example, to add an iron filter may sound easy, but to do it in a way that works and that doesn't compromise other aspects of the software and detector performance is no easy task.

My advice: use what you have and learn it's pros and cons. Submit feedback to the manufacturers if you wish and post those results if you want to.  But leave companies like XP alone when it comes to the updates.  If and when one shows up use it.  But  until then, use your Deus II and learn it.  I can tell you that my buddies who have them are killing it in multiple environments and are continually learning how to tweak their detectors to get better results.  I wish I had the dough to buy one.  From what I have seen it is an amazing detector as is.

Bill

 

 

[PI-Man]

Bill great comments — not toxic.   That is why I prefer just a few manual knobs to mess with instead of all the software.  Less hassle and forces you to utilize just a few settings and learn the machine.  The TDI SLs are always my go to detector everything else is a bonus.  Glad I couldn’t update my V3i software I am still learning it since it came out.  Haha

I just want to know why the Manticore brand new out of box on the park  program with no adjustments smoked me on my D2 park program no adjustments and same targets.  Lol 

My biggest problem with XP is the software updater to run on different platforms (Mac/pc) and if that hasn’t been addressed yet well…..to me that’s a tell tale sign it takes them a long time to produce something.  Maybe they only have 1 developer working for them.  Now in my eyes if they promoted a product that was supposed/sold to be upgradable well bad on them then - they should have known people would ask.  That goes for any company.  I am sure something will come eventually.