Anyone Using Steve's Detector Rods For The Deus 2?

[basstrackerman]

If anyone is using a carbon fiber shaft made from Steve's Detectors Rods and use the ws6 master , can you tell me how good it fits?  How much hand room I would have on the hand grip.. on the stock D2 shaft the puck mount sits a little lower and takes up my hand space.     Let me know.   Thanks. 

[Doc Bach]

Haven't heard from you in a coons age Bassman unless I missed it? Anyhow it's good to know that you are still on the right side of the dirt.

[ColonelDan]

I use nothing but Steve's rods.  Best on the market...by far. Precisely made by one who detects and has a sterling reputation for top notch products and customer service.

Buy with confidence...

[F350Platinum]

20 hours ago, basstrackerman said:

If anyone is using a carbon fiber shaft made from Steve's Detectors Rods and use the ws6 master , can you tell me how good it fits?  How much hand room I would have on the hand grip.. on the stock D2 shaft the puck mount sits a little lower and takes up my hand space.     Let me know.   Thanks. 

I'll take a look at this for you, I have all of the above, just need to find a minute to test it. My hands are large, but yours must be huge if you're having issues with the WS-6 Master. 🤔

[Chase Goldman]

Yup.  I use Steve's for the Beach with my D2, but I use the remote not the WS6 Master.

[basstrackerman]

14 hours ago, F350Platinum said:

I'll take a look at this for you, I have all of the above, just need to find a minute to test it. My hands are large, but yours must be huge if you're having issues with the WS-6 Master. 🤔

Well the WS6 master sits about a half of an inch lower once snapped into place on the stem. Yes I have very large hands. When the puck is on the xp deus shaft it hangs low enough to hit my hand. A few times it had popped off due to that.   At the moment I'm using an Anderson carbon fiber shaft with a swivel mount and it's working but it's a heavier shaft by several ounces.  

[F350Platinum]

49 minutes ago, basstrackerman said:

When the puck is on the xp deus shaft it hangs low enough to hit my hand. A few times it had popped off due to that. 

I can see where that might be a problem. 🫤

As much as I love the SteveG carbon fiber shaft, it appears that his handle and mount are nearly identical to the XP shaft, and it's not much lighter as I recall. However it is a lot less flexible, and provides an option to route the waveguide cable through the shaft albeit not perfectly:

The waveguide exits the shaft below the top cam lock, thus limiting the amount you can shorten the shaft for storage. Additionally the shaft is round so you have to set it on the floor when extending it to get proper alignment with the handle.

There is an option you may not have considered that might be helpful:

The top cam lock allows the remote to be raised higher over the grip, but shortens the overall shaft length. If you're tall as well this might be an issue but I'm 6'1" and there is still plenty of room to extend the shaft for me. That would solve your problem without expense.

SteveG's lower is a bit longer than the XP lower. 🤔

[basstrackerman]

47 minutes ago, F350Platinum said:

As much as I love the SteveG carbon fiber shaft, it appears that his handle and mount are nearly identical to the XP shaft, and it's not much lighter as I recall. However it is a lot less flexible, and provides an option to route the waveguide cable through the shaft albeit not perfectly

When I use the stock XP shaft I always use the legend or simplex carbon fiber lower rod they're about two and a half inches longer and they help since I'm tall but I sold off that shaft with the remote or coil a complete unit and I kept back the WS6 master one of my coils and the WSA two headphones and then I purchased the Anderson shaft which actually works really well. But it is a little heavier I was able to lighten it yesterday by about 3.4 oz so it's only about 2 oz heavier now than the stock Deus shaft or Steve's shaft. So I may end up just having to keep this and use it since I'm not built like normal people lol.  Thank you very much for that information I appreciate it That's exactly what I was looking for

[ColonelDan]

From my previous post on Steve's rods.  My opinion has not changed

 

Bottom Line up front: This is simply a work of art that promises to significantly improve the detecting experience of Deus II users.

 

Fit, Finish, Balance and Weight: As in all of Steve’s shafts, the fit and finish is truly superb. He has once again gone to great lengths to make a shaft that is really superior. The weight is a feather light 16.61 ounces and I can sense that the balance has been improved over the stock version

 

Shaft Length and Lock up: The length of the lower rod and overall shaft is longer than the stock XP shaft which allows the lower shaft to extend farther up into the middle shaft providing greater stability. The cam locks are far superior to the stock shaft and are the same ones he used on his Equinox version--tight as a bank vault.

 

Arm Cuff and Stand: The cuff and stand are much improved over the stock set up. The cuff is also of carbon fiber and extremely stiff. The stand is wider and taller resulting in greater stability when resting the Deus on the ground and is infinitely adjustable to any length of reach. Steve even provides the Allen wrench needed to tighten it down.

 

Grip: The grip is carbon fiber and very comfortable with a slight finger bump which helps to insure a firm hold. Great pains were taken here regarding the angle of the grip which provides a comfortable hold and the length of thumb reach to the Remote Control (RC) buttons is very accessible.

 

Mount and Coil Attachment: Steve’s rod came with a cap over the RC mount as does the stock shaft. This was a bear to remove as the fit has been improved to prevent unintentional dropping of the RC when in use. The RC mount is very solid with tighter tolerances. This resulted in a much better fit than the stock mount with which Deus II users are all too familiar—the RC can easily drop off the stock shaft after an inadvertent bump. Steve’s mount really secures the RC tightly. Even so, he designed an attached locking mechanism that can be thumb or screw driver tightened which provides an added level of security. The coil attachment uses the stock XP hardware so there is no need for anything proprietary.

 

Shaft: As I said, the shaft is not only longer than the stock shaft but round versus the triangular shape of the the XP shaft. This may take a little getting used to as the shaft now freely rotates when the locking cams are opened. I questioned this at first but then realized the benefit. I can now precisely select the angle of the RC so I can view the screen better if that’s what I wanted to do. Great!

 

Options: Steve offers several options that will personalize your shaft. If you like he will provide the capability for an internal channel for the underwater antenna and can outfit the upper shaft to accommodate a counterbalance weight just as he did with the Equinox. Even though this shaft is longer than the stock one, he can also provide additional length for those really really tall folks.

 

Conclusion: This shaft is an extremely usable thing of beauty in my view. It has been very well thought out and in great detail. It’s rugged and stiff with absolutely no wobble. It was very simply and very clearly designed and built with the user in mind and with user input from multiple user sources.

You can read Steve’s own words about this shaft with photos at:

https://www.detectorprospector.com/forums/topic/20979-deus-shafts-in-production/#comments

 

 

 

[F350Platinum]

51 minutes ago, ColonelDan said:

From my previous post on Steve's rods.  My opinion has not changed

Totally agree with you Colonel, I'm not disparaging SteveG at all, the initial post was regarding the WS6 puck popping off if you have large hands, at least that's where we ended up. 🙂

Since BT man bought the Anderson rig, to me it wouldn't make sense to spend more on the SteveG shaft as he would have the same issue unless he tried raising the puck with the top cam lock. Dimensions are nearly the same from grip to mount. While I was at this I merely pointed out some minor troubling observations.

One thing I like about the XP stock shaft is the trapezoid, that and the scale engraved on the lower. Great design in concept, not particularly in materials.

I'm not familiar with the Anderson offering other than I know it is expensive. Seems like an equally good option. I'm glad he was able to lighten it a bit, everything helps.

My two main detectors both have SteveG creations, and both of my sand scoops have his CF shaft offerings. I am a fan as well! 👍