Some Things To Take Note Of With The Algoforce

[phrunt]

9 hours ago, FishBamboo said:

Good to know. Looks like both hot rocks and iron can be identified by the minerization bar and minerilzation numbers. Nice job Simon.

Too early to know for sure, maybe larger good targets do it too, that's what I've got to test, I just stumbled into an area with iron junk, I haven't yet tried normal targets to see if they do the same, like a non-ferrous coin.  The small shot pellets I was finding obviously don't do it ?  It would be great if this turns out to be the case, I'll find out today, but the bars certainly go up with an iron target, hopefully they don't with a non-ferrous.

Here's a short video of the Algo ground balancing in some very iron sand rich soil.  It generally takes 5 pumps on the coil to balance anything out, later in the video I am pumping the coil, without the balance button down to show how out of balance it is, I then press it and my pump speed changes so show when I've pressed it, and it balances within its usual 5 pumps.  You'll see the bars on the ground balance meter growing as I swing over the iron sand concentrated ground; these are the same bars that shoot up on the iron targets I was hitting.  They're the bars in the middle of the screen below the number.

Once out of high concentration areas of iron sand like this even though it remains in balance in the milder areas with the same balance setting, I like to balance again as I believe you get better sensitivity to tiny targets that way.  

It's such an easy detector to use and understand.  I really like its fixed ground balance; I wish the 6000 had a way to do that too.  It has enough settings to give you some control while still being suitable for a beginner as it's very easy to use and understand, there is nothing complicated about it and navigating the user interface is very simple.

Woody's done another interesting technical video on it too.

 

[BigSkyGuy]

10 hours ago, phrunt said:

Another little bit of information that may be of interest, it is looking like you can use the mineralization bars on the screen as a form of Iron probability meter, when going over an iron junk target, they rise right up like it needs ground balanced, pass over the target they drop back down.    I tested this quite a bit today, every bit of iron I knew was iron before recovering it by using this method.  I need to experiment with this more and see, and do some iron air tests.

Phrunt,

Does this mean that you do not see the bars increase for non-ferrous targets? Less increase for non-ferrous?

Thank you!

[phrunt]

Just now, BigSkyGuy said:

Phrunt,

Does this mean that you do not see the bars increase for non-ferrous targets? Less increase for non-ferrous?

Thank you!

I'm going to confirm this today, I only noticed all this yesterday and I got home late at night from a big adventure gold hunt ?

[dig4gold]

57 minutes ago, phrunt said:

I'm going to confirm this today, I only noticed all this yesterday and I got home late at night from a big adventure gold hunt ?

I am guessing that you found no gold as you haven't posted about it, & I am sure you would have had you found some. Obviously you had a long day looking but came up empty handed on the gold. If you were hunting old past producing grounds then this detector is no miracle machine despite its cool features.

How was your shotgun pellet count? If getting pellets then there is every possibility that each one of those signals could have been a piece of gold. 

D4G

[Steve Herschbach]

32 minutes ago, dig4gold said:

this detector is no miracle machine despite its cool features.

 

Nobody ever said it was a miracle machine so this is a classic straw man presentation. This whole idea of this needing to outperform the GPX 6000 and GPZ 7000 at one third the price or less was brought up before, and I flat out said no, just go use the GPX 6000 and be happy. Same still applies here. If that is what anyone is looking for then look elsewhere.

[phrunt]

16 minutes ago, dig4gold said:

I am guessing that you found no gold as you haven't posted about it, & I am sure you would have had you found some. Obviously you had a long day looking but came up empty handed on the gold. If you were hunting old past producing grounds then this detector is no miracle machine despite its cool features.

How was your shotgun pellet count? If getting pellets then there is every possibility that each one of those signals could have been a piece of gold. 

You're correct, I didn't find any gold, I was going over ground I'd done before with the 7000 and 15" CC and 8" X-coils along with the 6000 and 10x5" Coiltek, and even the Equinox 800, it was an area I'd found one of my biggest nuggets along with a few small bits so I really wanted to just check out how it performed on the same ground doing the same things, and if it did find anything I'd missed,  The area has quite bad hot rocks too, yet I never found one, the E1500 went over them like they didn't exist.

It was just nice to experiment with it and hit the heavy junk area trying to take advantage of the Target ID to experiment.  JW was with me and he was smart for someone trying to find gold, he went to the spot I found a nugget right as his 6000 coil died the last time we were there so that area hadn't been as detected and we knew nuggets were likely hiding there, he found 3 little bits with his 6000 and Coiltek 10x5" in the time we were there, which was only a few hours.   I could have done the same sort of thing but just wanted to experiment more, learning the detector.  It won't easily perform miracles finding gold where the others have already done, I never expected it would but wanted to try experiment more with the Target ID feature and just see how it behaved in various situations.

We ended up spending a big part of the day not even detecting, driving exploring gold producing areas I'd never been to before, largely as I was too worried to try take on the 4x4 track up the mountainside, it's a challenging drive, even the drive back down the various gates along the way had all been bent and buckled by being crashed into by vehicles with their breaks failing so it was good to have someone experienced with me to take on that drive for my first time, I got stuck once where even in 4x4 mode my tyres just skidded but he advised how how to get through that ?  I'm not an experienced off road driver.

I learnt plenty and saw a whole lot of new detectable ground that I could experiment with in the future, a little more confident to take on the drive myself now, in the right weather as long as there has been no rain for quite a while as I would get stuck ?

It was nice to get out of the mid summer heat and go cool off in some snow too.

There is a town down there, can barely see it.

This is Jw that found the 3 bits of gold with his 6000 and 10x5" in the thyme bushes.  My 10" round would have struggled in that area anyway, I'd have to put on the Sadie.

[phrunt]

Unfortunately, good targets like coins shoot up the mineralization meters too.  I didn't notice it with pellets as they're too small to shoot up the meters, but larger targets like coins do.

[Taz]

5 hours ago, dig4gold said:

I am guessing that you found no gold as you haven't posted about it, & I am sure you would have had you found some. Obviously you had a long day looking but came up empty handed on the gold. If you were hunting old past producing grounds then this detector is no miracle machine despite its cool features.

How was your shotgun pellet count? If getting pellets then there is every possibility that each one of those signals could have been a piece of gold. 

D4G

Hi. 1 dead hunt doesn't mean anything, neither does 1 good one. I got a hill which yielded wonderfully too a Vlf yrs ago. Over the years since it hasn't yielded a cracker.  

Im liking the look of this thing greatly and my buy finger is itchy, though they are sold out and there is a wait list by now I gather. Ahhh, sd2000 memories! But like anything new there is the marriage honeymoon time when its all gushy and oohs and aahs, that's human nature. I get that with this detector especially since its a new kid on the block and by all means has a good pedigree and is cleverly made. Quality too going by Woods take apart. I get too scepticism due to great fanfares on things past and todays Influencer society, and not just influencers with fish lips and face fillers telling us how wonderful the new rare deep sea cucumber face masks are, but influencers everywhere. Not saying here, I just get people being wary these days because of it. Damn, there are even anti influencers that are on the kick from companies that join forums and faceslap groups that their sole objective is to be negative about things regardless of how good they really are. I listened to a late night radio show on it and its off of the charts what is going on with products these days with influencers and anti influencers. Again not saying that about here.

There is some good info here though, though most is very early days impressions, test target, test patch, trial stuff, but still I think the E15 looks promising. I'll wait for the honeymoon period to finish, the dust to settle and gushing from the gieser to die down a bit and hope to see some in field bad ground Aussie actual runs put on the board. Having said that, I do appreciate the info put here on the 15 and the effort spent doing it. I wouldn't write it off though based upon 1 dead outing.

 

[phrunt]

Yup, I'd never base a decision on if I have a skunk day or not, they're random even using the best of the best equipment and happen often! 

It's not the best detector on the market, according to price the GPZ is, yet some prefer the SDC, or the 6000, or the GPX 5000, some even prefer older GPX models, it all comes down to wants and needs.  It's a great detector for its price though, for people that are having some sort of anxiety problem this $2275 detector is somehow threatening their $9,000 AUD GPX 6000 detector, you need not worry, but it's sure not 1/4 of the detector the 6000 is like the price indicates, so perhaps you overpaid ?