New White's Detector On The Way?

[Ridge Runner]

J

I think we may be seeing the twin of the MX Sport . I base this on the face looks the same as the MX. The bright color around the face may to let you know up front that this detector is water proof. Just looking at the MX  you wouldn't know it was water proof but by the color says it.

White's really needs a new PI other than the TDI SL. Now if it's a VLF and they want to draw in the nugget hunter plus the coin hunter they for sure will have to put their thinking cap on. It will have some of  what the Equinox has to offer but on the nugget hunting it will have to pass the Gold Monster on detecting nuggets. I would think it will be almost impossible to accomplish this in the short time they got.

I wish all the best to White's and Minelab plus us the buyer.

Chuck

[auminesweeper]

I would rather see them leave the VLF's alone, the MXT and the GMT's work well enough, I would rather see Whites expand on the TDI Pro format making an all new high powered version of the TDI Pro because there is only one real option when it comes to PI's when it comes to raw power.

The MXT was ahead of it's time being really powerful yet simple with sensitivity to match and modern machines are using some of those Ideas with good results with the new Impact and the Nokta Gold+ and the Relic and the Racer etc.

These are good times for detectors with ML and XP doing the high frequency thing and not to mention ML's latest offering, I think we are going to be spoilt for choice soon

[Mark Gillespie]

For years I've wanted a good PI machine "TDI", but with a fair amount of true, actual, working discrimination without loosing depth.  So many say it will never happen or rather they just don't know. 

[Mike Hillis]

I've watched the release of the new multi frequency machines like the Dues, Alter71, the GoldMask 5+, the  Impact, and now the pre-release show of the Equinox and my personal thought is, "those are nice, but I already have a V3."    At one time I was hot and heavy for the Alter 71 but again, after I completed my review,  the V3 stood out as better.   The V3 is just a hard to detector to top once you get your mind wrapped around it.   

Personally I would like to see Whites spend more time on the multi-frequency correlate mode.   You could do a wider range of selective frequency like the Impact/Equinox,Alter71, Dues,  but allow the user to pick the combination to correlate.  Create a screen specifically for correlate mode, something like a bulls eye plot or something....something to make it easier to dial correlate in, and to see how signals are reporting in reference to correlated settings.   Add the ability to give correlated responses a different tone, or tone id based upon the bulls eye plot.  Maybe tone id by plot rings.  I dunno.    Wouldn't mind a larger frequency offset range for tuning it either.  Anyway. Theres a lot I'd like to see developed around that mode of operation.

Wish I had the money to licences the V3 correlate mode from Whites and develop my own set of detectors based around it.   They'd be sweet detectors for the jewelry hunter I kid you not, and wouldn't be bad at other stuff either.

Other than that I want coils.   A 7" concentric and a 18" x 4" cleansweep coil for my V3.  

Got me dreaming now.   Maybe I need to buy lottery tickets every now and then.

HH
Mike

 

 

 

[auminesweeper]

Whites already make a 6" Concentric so a 7" would not add much,

No matter what machines hit the streets people are never happy, The V3i and the MXT etc can all go very deep when matched with the right coils, The depth question is never far away but weight and waterproofness seems to be what people crave, personally I hate detecting in the rain, everything gets covered including me,

 

[Ridge Runner]

Not being happy with what we got is what keeps the push on detector companies to come out with something better. If a car company could make the same looking car every year they would do it. The thing they know if they don't make a change each year then why would we want to buy the same year after year.

We know a detector company can't come out with something every year. The detector is not just on what's on the outside but what's under the hood too.

Chuck

[johnedoe]

1 hour ago, Mike Hillis said:

 

Personally I would like to see Whites spend more time on the multi-frequency correlate mode.   You could do a wider range of selective frequency like the Impact/Equinox,Alter71, Dues,  but allow the user to pick the combination to correlate.  Create a screen specifically for correlate mode, something like a bulls eye plot or something....something to make it easier to dial correlate in, and to see how signals are reporting in reference to correlated settings.   HH
Mike

 

 

 

The V3i already has a fully adjustable correlate mode unlike the lite version in the V3.......

[auminesweeper]

I am happy with what I have got, If I need more depth then I just change coils, In most soil conditions and depending on the size of the target can have a person digging way beyond what most people care to dig,

[Mike Hillis]

 

 

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Whites already make a 6" Concentric so a 7" would not add much,

No, Whites makes a 5" coil (they call it 5.3) placed inside a big 6+ inch flying saucer shell.    I hate that coil.  The shell says 6" coil, while in truth its a 5" coil and you have to place extra concentration on it to make sure your swinging it like a 5" coil.    So yes, a 7" coil would give you quite a lot over the 5" coil, and there wouldn't be such a gap between the 950 and the next size down.    The 7" coils sizes are really nice.  Easy to swing and get good separation and depth.  Fisher's little 7" coil and Tesoro's little 7" coil are both a nice size.  Its unfortunate all the external coil mfgs just copy each others coil sizes and don't offer anything unique.

Regards the correlate mode...the V3 and V3i have the same correlate modes.   It only offers two types of correlation and you don't get to pick it.  It correlates 2.5 kHz to 7.5 kHz and it correlates 7.5 kHz to 22.5 kHz.   The peak phase responses of the target signal determines which frequencies are correlated,  You don't get to select those.   You can select the basic width of the correlated window, and adjust for any over wrap above +95  and fine tune the low or high correlate window with the frequency offset but thats about all.   

But as johndoe has already stated, I suspect the V3 is too complicated for most users and much of the available capability is under realized.

HH
Mike

Edited the mixed mode tone statement.