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Yes, it would be. If one puts a tape measure to the 9" Deus2 coil it actually reads more like 8 3/4. Even though it is a DD coil it still loses a little coverage at depth. A 10X5 coil would be more forgiving on coverage!

I would not mess around with the cheap Bones Phones. I would get a pair of Tony Eisenhower waterproof diving headphones. Contact here: tony@idigbeaches.com

🤨 I am not even going to look. They must be selling Quest detectors...🤣

Carbon fiber is just about indestructible and zero flex. Steve now has a replacement. http://www.stevesdetectorrods.com/list.php?Brand=1 BEFORE Steve had the replacement made, he helped me put together a shaft with my own custom mount that I built!

Did you ever put the 12X15 Equinox coil in the water??? Yup, quite a treat. The stock rod for the Deus2 is inadequate for any water hunting in my opinion. I replaced my stock rod with a custom CF rod. I was not wild of water hunting with a 9" coil. My past opinion was a coil that size was too small on a salt beach. After the last three months of working the Deus 9" , I have no plans of changing to a larger coil to hunt in the water. If I had a choice, it would be for a 10" coil for in the water.

Just to reinsert the causes and effects we are talking about DEEP fringe targets. At the beach I hunt fringe targets of all metals will not give numbers on a routinely daily basis. My method is to investigate in another mode [like others do] I usually raise the sensitivity to look at that one target and also take a scoop off if needed. It is amazing how many of these are iron. Even in the two-tone program I hunt in, Iron wrap-around is a fact with the D2. The D2 is a good tonal machine until you have fringe targets that do not lock. I have had iron grunts with deep nonferrous and no iron grunts with deep ferrous. What really is disappointing deep nonferrous gives zero hints it might be nonferrous. ALWAYS choppy, ratty,bitey broken signals [just like deep ferrous] My only hope is that I can get the D2 to throw a number. I chase WAY more ferrous targets at the beach than with the GT Sovereign, Equinox, and although not enough time on the machine I suspect the Manticore would be added as well. [it is not even close] And of course,>>>someone hunting land my not see what I am experiencing on a black sand salt beach. Of course [2] No machine is perfect. But the D2 does make the Equinox look like an Ace 400 in the moving wave wash zone.

Awesome fiinds!!!!! Congrats.

Not trying to be argumentative here. However, this Vid you posted in fact shows the Deus 2 NOT being a good tonal machine. I refer back to the 8-minute mark of this Vid where the user is unsure of what is in the ground and is trying to get the machine to throw him a number. No person could dig that target with any confidence because of the ratty, bitey, broken tone it was giving! The user is unable to confirm the target on tone alone. I KNOW, as 1000's of deep targets I have looked at sound identical FERROUS and non-ferrous. Also, I want to point out that the user has very nice sand and little black sand. Black Sand will only amplify the tonal issues and breakdown will occur at a much less detection depth. However, what the Deus 2 is better at than most is throwing a number that will give hints to what might be there. Only after an exhausting 360 degree look and hopefully a group of numbers can one make a determination of the target. As a reminder, I am a beach hunter only and my goal is to dig all nonferrous. In my opinion: The Deus 2 is a lousy tone machine but a good numbers machine! [on deep targets]

This Vid just shows what I have been talking about. First the D2 throwing numbers all over. Second, how the machine is bitey on deep nonferrous targets and VERY difficult to tell the difference between ferrous wrap-around and nonferrous. Go to the 8min mark of the Vid where the user states he is getting no TID numbers, and the tone is bitey and breaking down. I routinely check deep targets in identical programs of Beach and Beach Sensitive. Not too worried about missing BIG gold. Worried about missing chains which the Dive program is not the best at.

Have You Dug Good Targets With Negative Numbers? Let's be CLEAR> EVERY machine that has had a ferrous and nonferrous TID idenification system has identified very deep nonferrous targets as IRON!

Yes! Yes. One reason I am not buying one right now. Also, the added coil structure on the 11" coil catches more sand and water and can be a PIA when trying to swing on the sand. Personally, I would wait for a {10X something coil} and dedicate it to water only. I just do not understand this engineering concept of offset coils which make detectors harder to use in many conditions.

I thought it worked really well on a salt beach with moderate black sand. There are going to be lots of gold chains found with the manticore. Transitions good from wet sand to wave wash.

I just have to say>There is more accurate information to be gained from swinging the coil than pumping the coil. Save pumping the coil for doing GB.

LOL>>>True words! 😂

I have a little more time now so comments can be made on some changes made. With regards to the breakdown of detection and targets sounding bitey, I found no real changes running PWM or Full Tones. A couple of things cleaned up the Black Sand chatter. Taking reactivity from .05 to 1 in Beach Sensitive helped. However, when I tried going to a Reactivity of 1 in Beach mode I did not like the results. Also compared beach and beach sensitive mode in full tones. I hunted full tones in the 00-disc. setting. Interestingly enough the extra noise from ocean water and black sand was reduced. The bad part I also found. Deep targets are muted and do not stand out as well as compared to Square and PWM with Disc set at 22. When I found pockets of even more concentrated black sand the D2 had to be backed off in sensitivity and detection field breakdown and bitey sounding targets were even worse. Final thoughts: The D2 no question struggles in Black Sand. The ability to identify wrap-around iron FROM non-ferrous targets that will not TID is not possible as these targets sound identical. The only chance is that the D2 throws a number.

Yes. In my limited EMI world, the Manticore works as the D2 does. As a side note. I hear very few people using Manticore and EMI in the same sentence.

This would normally be a reasonable deduction. But after comparing a 9 and 11" coil for weeks on end I would tell you not to get your hopes up on a 9" coil handling salt or black sand any better than a 11" coil. The 9"coil can definitely hold its own on depth performance compared to the 11" coil in a salt environment.

DD coils are not accurate on Iron! Spot on with nonferrous.

Congratulations on learning the power of the Horseshoe mode. At least for myself when hunting in beach 2. EVERY piece of iron with double sound on 360 inspections. [swing speed is important] and it will take practice. You cannot go too slow. Anything nonferrous will NEVER> Repeat NEVER make a double sound [unless very shallow] in which case your Equinox will lock out on a nonferrous number. I highly suggest hunting more with the Horseshoe mode on to understand this concept. Ditch recovery in pinpoint and recover your targets with the horseshoe mode on.

I dig everything that is nonferrous! Except for one beach where I try to skip some tabs. I take the Equinox to this beach.

It is my Experience that an Expanded ID range to 100 scale is a hindrance to idenification of aluminum to gold ratios. Example: My equinox is AWESOME at locking in tabs where I hunt at 13-14 for 95 %. My Deus 2 is HORRIBLE at locking in a range of tabs. I run numbers from 49 to 64 for 95%. This is absolutely unacceptable and makes skipping tabs impossible. Don't run air tests, they are worthless. Run ID tests on the wet sand. The dynamics of wet sand and black sand will change ID numbers, especially at depth.

Can you give an example of why this would be true?

Are Full Tones only available in 1 operating mode?

Can you explain this a little more? Edit: No need to explain

No, Why?