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With all the Equinox hype, these seem to have being overlooked, if true that is. I cant find anything on Minelab website. http://allmetalmode.com/mikes-blog/2017/09/16/minelab-pro-pointer-35-my-pinpointer-dream-come-true/

Has anybody thought that the Equinox just might be the little brother of a new Minelab flagship?

But the speculation and all the crazy ideas is great fun

https://hobby-detecting.com/what-will-minelab-show-in-september-2017-in-the-uk-new-detector-2018/

Add the Rutus Alter 71 to Steve's list.

Not having to take out a mortgage to buy one would be nice.

Why blame engineers when it the job of PR and advertising?

Something must be in the air, I also had my worst start to the year ever, beach wise that is. First quarter was also a blank, zero gold or silver. Thankfully my dry spell was broken with this week with an 1929 4.25g 9 karat.

When it finally comes out i will consider it but at that price i think i will be waiting for a few reports first. I have become very sceptical about claims being made by certain companies. Sure the Signum is the most powerfull detector i have ever used but i have yet to find sites that power can be used. Most of the time you end up trying to calm the beast. My openion is the Sorex is a more user friendly machine and still as deep in most situations.

The 12k price was just a number plucked from the air over on another forum, but somehow it done the rounds, latest from AKA is that the Intronik will be in the $3000-$3500 range for the top model and also a lite version will be produced without the deep hoard hunting capabilities.

A bit like the US so

I asked for clarification on what's this "ground zone" over on another forum, now translations can be difficult at time but what I got out of sounds exactly like what XP are saying above, its all about a nervy narrow band of ground rejection.

If I was able to put my thoughts down on paper properly I would for sure, see how hard I got it to try and explain the so called "ground zone" above LOL. I am highly dyslexic so converting thoughts to the pen is difficult. Its being a while since I done a report on anything but, you know what I might give it a go and see how I get on, might take a while though.

Also AKA only do VLF's so I think we are being fed a load of BS.

Cheers Carl, I was hoping you would join in, I look like a fool now dam deep detectors though what ever way they do it.

Well that solves that so, lesson learned the Ruskies are full of it

Its so long since I used a Whites, an XLT back in the 90 that I forgot the low negative range. One difference though AKA put it up into the high positive range. Not a clue what Nokta do. How about trying one out? and seeing what most AKA users see and that being a serious deep machine. I know there is no dealer network in the US, but we do in Europe, other makes do not either and are widely accepted in the US.

Again I am not a detector engineer but I will try my best at explaining this. The ground zone is a detection zone between high conductors and iron on the conductivity scale. Most manufacturers totally eliminate this zone because it results in a lot of falsing resulting from ground conditions. AKA have somehow managed to include this zone without all the falsing, one of the reasons why proper GB is critical on AKA units. As targets get closer to the limits of detection they go from the non ferrous range to the ferrous range as per traditional detectors but in fact, what really happens they go from non ferrous to the ground zone then to the ferrous zone before being lost at depth. So detectors that include this ground zone will have an extra bit of depth over ones that eliminate it. Is this all bull, I dont know for sure, its only something I picked up from the AKA lads. I do not that AKA's have being the deepest VLF detectors I have ever used and they tend to get a lot more falsing very high up in the conductivity scale over other detectors.

And here is the link http://www.xpmetaldetectors.com/metal-detector/deus-update/

Steve I think you have hit the nail on the head there, AKA, yes it AKA by the way, have they developed some way of ground compensation that is ahead of others, maybe? They certainly have done it with single frequency units by including the "ground zone" in their detection range that other companies eliminate, so is it feasible to say that their multi frequency units will include something others have missed? time will tell but by looking are various claims and videos, there just might be some substance to it? Saying all that leads me back to the original question, does the tech being used compensate grounds better than existing tech. Most grounds have some sort of mineralisation and compensating for this better could actually push the bar out a bit further than single frequency units on ground with any form of mineralisation?

LOL don't shoot the messenger, not me Steve, the Engineer in question quoted this, but I think the emphasis being this tech will the first ever to transmit and sample at the SAME time, which implies others alternate between either transmit or sampling the different frequencies??? Once again I am just wondering is there any substance in these claims? and if so would it have any benefit to us detectors? How does the depth claims on the 0.4g nugget stack up against existing tech?

Like most others this tech stuff goes over my head a bit, I come from a mechanical engineering background not an electronic one. I know this sounds just like other multi frequency detectors, but according to this engineer, he claims that this detector is the Whites, Fisher and Minelab multi frequencies have also being quoted in that they do not do so in real life thus this is first ever truly real multi frequency detector. Hence why I am asking is there any substance in these statements?

I wont mention the brand for fears of any bias against the manufacturer. This is one for the tech heads on here, what does the following quote mean to you, is there any substance in it? Now here is one for the nugget hunters on here, how does this compare to existing top of the line gold detectors?

Very nice, I would be very happy with that any day, in this part of the world. People look at Europeans, with envy, finding hammered silver coins but, believe me, milled silvers are a lot harder to find and prized a lot more.

For me its just to be able to detect in peace without the fear of prosecution.