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anyone have trouble with pebbles using a probe to look for the target. I'm in the foothills and frequently run into a lot of small rocks and not sure if i would know what's stopping the probe, if it was a rock or a coin...or, inexperience. if I'm not cutting a small plug to flop over, I've been pinpointing the target with the TRX and pressing my digging tool to approximately the depth i believe the target to be and about an inch away from the pinpoint and prying open the dirt, 50/50 the coin is still deeper vs in the sod that flipped up. everything folds back into the hole and after a little brushing with my shoe, not to much worse for wear and tear...most all the time. occasionally a little more effort is required for sufficient restoration so nothing looks out of place, but those spots are usually reserved for where they center the ball on soccer areas and the like. is that similar to others probe technique...anything i can do to improve how this is accomplished will speed up recovery and help to reduce any unnecessary impact on the turf. thx

and the more annoying the little bugger the better... there are ways to craft the tones to something more pleasant but that is for another lesson in the book. their are so many little things you can do with this Deus, yet I'm finding that the menus are very intuitive so I'm having fun learning the new things it has to offer. being such a new user and my first and only vlf was soooo easy to use, all the adjustment for the most part on the Deus are new to me. i have not read about the indicator you mentioned so can't say yet i am going to look tonight.

Been building a deck and got done around 4 this afternoon so i headed out to one of the local parks for a little practice with the deus and to test out a program setting that was posted on the internet as a general use settings. the poster was advocating using these settings as a general rule to give the operator some consistency with the tones and readings, rather than constantly changing programs when it may not be needed for the ground conditions you you are on at the time. the settings used were from a starting point of the basic relic program: discrimination 5 reactivity 2 silencer 3 frequency 18 iron audio 2 volume 4 full tone the deus was very well behaved and the tones were clear, someone with more experience than me would know if these are practical or not, but they were very manageable it seemed in and around all the trash.

Seems solid and fairly nonslip... Yours is prettier and the wood handle has a nice finish.

Italy not France, mine is made in Italy... but I like the way John thinks... Might be overkill for the micro jewelry.

Have to retrieve them from the bank vault first

Mine is pretty much lik the one in the picture, one side is serrated and it has a blue molded handle made by some French company I think. It's really solid and cuts a nice plug... pops shallow stuff ok too.

Not to far away... Farther than I could throw a spark plug on my best day by a couple of streets to the west, perhaps it's become a spark plug placer. Sometime you will have to check and see if any look familiar, might need DNA or finger prints to know for sure.

i have found a few spark plugs it would be cool if i was off on my dates and it was the one you worked at, i could have you bring over the mxs and clean up all the junk you tossed over.

where was the station you worked at?

I don't know what station it was, they tore it down before I went to work for the city in 1976. all the junk i find is older looking radiator cap and fittings, I've found some old broken motorcycle brake or clutch lever pieces. not great stuff, but vacant lot spill over kinds of things that could hide something I hope. i don't hunt it a lot cause i don't really expect to find much, its good for when I'm board and the parks are full of people. my sisters place is a few miles away its an older home also with a big rear lot that was also part of a farm and had an old barn at one time, i found a old roller skate key and a mini ball and the usual assortment of old nails.

The cool part was it was a frenchie with my new frenchie, I don't really care about the date that much, in fact I'm happier to get good information, so thanks for the help and picture. I'm still pretty sure it came from Harris, he traveled to France a lot and lived in the house a long time until his health failed, then one day he took a walk out into the orchard and sat down next to a tree with his shotgun and moved on, I found some old shotgun shell brass in the front yard also. That would have been in the late 40's or early 50's and still fits with the coin.

actually that was kind of stupid, I'm not griding a gold field so i guess the deus will do a pretty good job of keeping track of whats left in the ground... still gonna be tough on the grass.

this little park I've know of for most of my life i think might just be one of those good micro jewelry locations. hearing the different criteria that makes a good location this one has a number of factors aside from not ever hunted, the average surrounding home value is in the 4 million dollar range. the park gets a fair amount of use and thick with tiny pieces of aluminum scrap, i think I've the machine for the job, but haven't gotten my deus bible in the mail yet so I'm not sure exactly certain what settings might be best to start with and my other concern and this would be the one stopping me from hunting this micro stuff at all is I'm afraid the lawn will take a pretty hard beating if my luck is poor. the targets are so thick that it gonna take a long time of spreading the digging out and then trying to figure where everything left off as i move from place to place trying to cover the ground but spread out a lessen the impact on the grass. the only thing it might not have as a strong point is its more of a sitting park and not a soccer field environment.

since i just got one I've been researching and although i am not advocating it for the beach as i have no idea of its abilities in that area yet, i did see a video on some precautions using the deus at the salt water. apparently the gold plating on the charging posts will corrode over time if subjected to salt exposure preventing the ability to charge the coil. one fix and i may be the only clueless one in the crowd about this so my apologies if this information is old news... placing a strip of electric tape over the terminals before going to the beach and removing the tape during clean-up will prevent the corrosion from starting.

Ya, they were mine like they would be for any 8 year old... I did trade two rolls of the uncirculated matching date peace dollars to my best friends older brother for his new bike! Both our dads were PO and the deal was reversed in a few days with a couple of (we got yelled at) along the way for good measure...

Pretty nice John great coin, when we sold our collection we had almost a full set of Morgan's Missing only two coins the 1893s and it's been so long I forget now the other one, an 1895 I believe. Had a full set of peace dollars and a half dozen rolls of uncirculated matching dates peace dollars, a full set of Jefferson nickels and full set of Lincoln pennies a few old gold pieces some Hawaiian coins, private fractional golds and a pile of Indian head pennies melted together in the remains of a metal box from the San Francisco earthquake and fire. i was 8 years old in school lunch line one day and we had been collecting for a couple of years now so I knew even then the key dates I had asked the lunch lady if I could check the dates of the coins in the till box and spotted an 1893s Morgan in the till. With the innocence of an 8 year old I explained this was a key coin we were missing and asked if I could use my lunch money for the coin instead of lunch that day, she declined my request. When my dad got home from work we went to the bank the school used and checked every silver they had on hand and it was not there. id like to have all of those now of course, but that's how it goes. my grandfather had a transit company and on one visit gave me a moving box full of old baseball cards left behind from some estate in SF, this was the early 1960s hundreds of cards and even mix of what were semi new at the time and old cards with funny looking guys in the pictures most of these were really early, I wasn't really a fan so they just sat in my closet along with every comic book ever printed from the later part of the 1950s up until the fateful day in 1963. I headed up to the sierras to go fishing with my grandparents and when I got home... All gone to the trash... Love to have those back also.

I remember the times of which you speak in the hay day of coin collecting, I just turned 63 a couple of months ago and collected coins also. Every paycheck my dad would run us down to the bank and cash it in silver dollars, we'd go through them keep anything we were missing and re-rolled and do it again if we weren't tired of it all by the first trip, it was a lot of fun. I also remember when the mint would chop the silver dollars up and sell you back a 1 ounce Baggie of the chopped up coin (pretty sure that was the mint and not a third party).

Hi GB_Amateur, I'd never try and judge a swamp person by his cover, I bet most of them could McGiver us out of a tough spot with some shoe strings and tin cans if we were in a jam, but they do put on quite a show... not knowing if you have ever been out west before or what experience and resources you would have available in the western states, if you visit California and are without places you have planned to hunt, a bit of friendly advice is to check out something like roaring camp. They have a web site and are smack in the middle of good ground, it's a little expensive however they generally book up and people keep coming back for more with positive reviews.

Hi Brian, I took the Deus out to a little park near my house today for a quick hunt, the soil is fairly mild and on the Deus gb averaged around 67 to 72 or so, having access to these numbers is new to me so I'm still on my learning curve as to what that all means in relation to things other that the basics. This little park is never hunted so it loaded with clad, tabs, slaw and the other assorted junk. I know some silver must exist but the park has had a makeover some years ago and the silver might have been lost then. Anyway I'm digressing a bit here so back to the Deus, I found it fairly easy to id coins by cherry picking sweet higher tones and keeping the vdi above 70, with an occasional rusted bottle cap. Older heavy aluminum pull tabs were giving a sweet mellow tone in the 50 range at about 3 inches and the slaw bounced around in the 30's to 40's this day at this park. I dug a dozen clad, a little bit of junk and mostly focused my time testing myself in the clad range and higher tones for the little bit I practiced today. Additionally, while the vdi helped to id coins it was not near as accurate as the whites in identifying specific coins as whites which was pretty consistent everywhere I hunted down to around 5 inches or so, perhaps even a bit more depth than that at times. It feels like the Deus can be as others have said before as easy or difficult to operate as the user wishes and although still early in my experience still holding true. I'd agree, the Deus style of vdi favors non-ferris in a way where it's more difficult to eliminate some of the things you don't want. I think it was Fred that aptly pointed out, things like modern aluminum are more scarce in the gold fields, so hopefully the vdi won't be as much of a factor at those old home sites, similar to the conditions overseas. I should add today I was running relic program 6, with the iron volume tweaked to 0, reactivity bumped to 1 and volume lowered to 2. I've spent the last 3 months feeling a bit like a tennis ball at whimbilton, the ctx, gold racer and Deus all have things I was looking for but in a different way. And during this 3 months I've changed my mind almost hourly, every review, new release, rumor and delay a whack of the racket sending my decision back across the net. i guess I could also add my reasons for settling on the Deus... As I've said previously... Love the package, lifetime updates, the Deus was sounding like a very capable machine and the promises of v4 would make it perfect, I'm committed to buying the new v4 coil, but if by some surprise v4 fails to live up to the hype I can just buy the racer instead for about the same money. The Deus small coil and ws3 headphones alone can make a decent portable mini pointer for the zed without the upper shaft and controller and finally, I ruled out the ctx despite it fitting so well with zed because I'm just a bit nervous about the 3030 being dated technology and the lack of regard to mineLab customers with the games played on the gpz pricing and sudden gpz price drop. good luck in your quest, clark

So far I like the Deus but I'm super new at it. I will say on my limited experience and comparing the sst against the Deus under extreme conditions in a nail infested tin rich hot ground gb87, the Deus seemed manageable relying on tones, where the sst falsed more and my confidence that I would find the target I was hearing through the deus is much higher. I feel much the same with the z... When it hits on something very good odds i will at least find a target, nothing worse than digging holes with absolutely nothing in them but hot ground and ghosts.

No need to be conserved on the Deus about charging 3 batteries as the charger cable is split 3 ways and charges 1 or all 3 batteries at the same time from a single outlet, it was clean and easy. The charger and cables are fairly compact also.

I think if you happened to be passing through Vegas and while on your way you stopped into one of the casinos and found yourself at the table where they play the game will my gpz be deeper... Your money will be 40% safer going with the house as the house always wins in the end... Double down on a hard 19 increases the odds by 30% and split 8's. anything else and you might be finding yourself someplace far out into the desert in a hole in the ground... Hmmmmm

Rick, thank you very much... What you said makes great sense, confirms what I was seeing and clears the confusion for me. Having used the z for the last year, I've grown accustomed to it proclivities and think I will like hunting with the Deus very much and I love the light weight little package its in.

This company is amazing... it's very difficult to ignor a company that is proving itself so responsive to customer needs. I hope they can maintain this pace and like Steve stated before "set a new bar" for all the other manufactures to chase. Good job Nokta/Makro!