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Even one is enough for me to have a technicolour projectile burp with extra corn. I'm not too keen on axle grease on my toast.

I know how much some people want these coils, and it's very easy to get them in New Zealand, and my dealer does ship to the US. The last batch my dealer had I posted a link to on here and he sold out quickly to American forum members that were struggling and desperate to get their hands on one. He's now on at least his 3rd batch. So if anyone really is desperate to get one quickly they're welcome to buy one from NZ, my dealer is a good guy and ships them to US customers no problems. You'll pay a bit more as you'll need to pay shipping, maybe one of the forum members who bought one could tell you how much that it ended up being, or you could just contact Dan the dealer and ask. https://www.dredgenz.co.nz/product/10x5-equinox-coil/

I think many would expect a big jump in technology like the Apex over previous models to be released as a higher end model, the fact Garrett released it in the Ace arena means there is something special coming. The Apex was an introduction into what they're working on. They obviously still have more left in the tank yet and I'm pretty excited about that, I've held off on an Apex knowing there must be a high end model coming and seeing I don't really need it I may as well wait. The 24k was absolutely the right thing for them to release first, they needed a good prospecting VLF, now they've got one of the best, if not the best. If all they bought Whites for was to get the 24k then it was worth the investment, we don't know what they paid for Whites but perhaps they paid less for Whites than what the 24k would cost to develop from scratch so it could be possible that's all they bought Whites for, only they will know. I can't see them releasing any other Whites models, especially the big metal box tank things and to make them into smaller modern detectors would be a waste of time and money, they've got their Apex technology to build on now and for a first attempt they've obviously done a very good job of it. I always thought Whites released the 24k a few years too late, if it hit the market before the Monster did I would imagine it would have been the number one selling gold VLF detector and people would see little reason to change to a Monster. I would not be at all surprised if the 24k is a much bigger hit for Garrett than it was for Whites, and Nel took notice immediately prepping to make coils for it once it was in Garrett's hands, just like they did the Apex. One day not allowing aftermarket coil support is going to be a big kick in the butt for Minelab. If there are two horses in the race, both are running well, the unrestricted one will win.

I like it, while it's not as sensitive on small gold as the 6" coil (you wouldn't expect it to be) it does have a very sensitive nose on it where the windings come close which can get into places the 6" coil can't. It's most sensitive spot is the tip and tail where as the 6" is the very center of the coil so that's beneficial for gold up against rocks and so on. As for coins, it's not as deep as the 11", again you can't expect it to be, it's a smaller coil. Won't handle junk as well as the 6", again because it's longer, more chance of getting junk and a coin under it at once. I'm starting to think most of the time you can estimate how a coil will perform without even owning it just by it's size and shape and not be too far off wrong 🙂 It seems good quality and I've got no complaints. I was having trouble where my Minelab bolt didn't fit my Coiltek coil, Trevor at Coiltek told me to try various Minelab bolts for mine as I had a Minelab bolt that didn't fit supplied with my 11" that I was trying to use for my Coiltek coil, and they were right, the bolt with my 15x12" fit perfectly. It seems Minelab have some bolts that are a tiny fraction bigger than others, very odd 🙂

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Thanks, so I am, it's painful looking at the detector knowing I'm not allowed to drive only an hour away to use it.... so all I can do is play with it around my local area where there is no gold to be found. 🙂

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Yes, I am 100% confident more clones are sold worldwide than the real thing by a significant margin. Sellers have 9999+ units in stock of fakes, name one dealer of the genuine article that holds those numbers? 🙂

It certainly is a very sensitive detector.

Yes, the adapter is a proof of concept adapter for testing, not what the final version would look like obviously.

It normally wouldn't matter, for someone in the US buying the detector the dealer would have covers and they'd add one to their purchase at the time and they cost next to nothing, I was so keen to get one I had it sent from the USA and didn't think about covers at the time, and I'm very glad I did as it's rapidly become my favourite Gold VLF. The local dealer I'm sure at the time when they stock the detector will have coil covers and it would be no big deal for someone buying it then. It's more my fault than anything for not thinking about it 🙂 The Aussies haven't been able to sort out the customs issue yet, and don't know if customs has destroyed the parcel, they're waiting to find out as Australia Post has now opened an investigation into the case to see what has happened. The Serious Detecting package is on it's way so that's a good start, they didn't have a 10x6" cover but they had the 6" Whites coil and a cover for that, and when Garrett comes out with a 6" coil I'll order that too and just buy a cover for the 10x6" at the time as I am sure the Garrett coil will have improvements over the Whites, I want to buy every coil they make for it. The scratches on it are purely cosmetic and just look worse than they are due to it being a glossy black surface, I'm just fussy with this sort of thing but I'm sure the coil is tough enough to take it, many brands of aftermarket coil say you don't even need a coil cover, maybe the Garrett survives fine without one. In fact my two Ace detectors don't have one, and I'd never even noticed and I've put those coils through their paces 🙂 I'm actually quite surprised how sensitive the 10x6" coil is, I only used the 10x5" on the Gold Monster a few times and put it away never to be used again and stuck with using the 5". The 10x6" is doing remarkably well on my small gold tests, exceeded my expectations on that and it's absolutely not bump sensitive even at highest gain with the SAT off. Running with the SAT off is working well here. You'll see how much I like the detector by how much effort I'm going to for it, it's a fantastic detector. Quite a few detectors I've bought and used them for a few days to try them out then put them in the cupboard only ever to be seen again if I want to compare their performance to another detector, not this one, this is becoming my primary gold VLF and I am genuinely very impressed by it. I haven't even read the manual yet, I just used Steve's videos to get an idea and off I went. It's really easy to use. I'm under some Covid restrictions at the moment where I can't leave my region into the next, and the next region is where the gold is, even though it's only an hours drive away I'm not legally allowed to drive there. That's expected to end in under a week and I'll be off like a kid to a candy store to find my first 24k gold! I'm itching to go. 🙂

Print it and stick in anonymously up on the wall in the lunch room or slip it under the king kahunas door 😉 A lot of what they could have done to the F75/T2 was done to the Simplex. Nokta have done a great job of taking old technology and modernizing it with their detectors, they've started a rather successful detecting business by doing just that, all those sales could have been First Texas sales. I even consider my Simplex a modern T2.

What year was it they last released a new detector, and I mean a new detector... not a slight modification of an existing model? And what detector was it? The F75 came out in 2007, 14 years ago and not much has changed with it in that time, The T2 came out before that, no idea when and it's had some minor enhancements.... either way, it's old! These are their "current" flagship coin, relic and jewellery detectors. Their "current" flagship gold detector the Gold Bug 2 came out in 1995, 27 years ago and has had little change since. It's first upgrade was a few months ago and that seems to be due to the parts required to make it were no longer in production from the suppliers. Aside from the Impulse AQ that was more of an acquisition than their own creation. I don't mean to be negative or rude, but realistically..... how long are people willing to wait before losing hope. In most parts of the world they only exist as cheap clones as they've been on the market so long they're easy targets to duplicate. How about we put this into a bit of perspective...... Back in 1995 when the Gold Bug 2 hit the shelves, this was a flagship TV And this was a very cool phone. Wow look, no cords! And when the F75 came out, TV's were huge with Sony's Flagship TV And phones were really powering ahead, Apple released their first Iphone. Now that's a big step in phones. It had a colour screen and a camera! And some apps and internet connectivity! Then we skip ahead to now..... This is a modern TV You can get any size you dream of 🙂 and a modern phone, look at all them cameras! This phones got as much power as a room full of servers in 1995. Technology generally moves forward.... just not at First Texas. A little more perspective..... Yup, that's an early model Iphone.... 😉 So while I wish First Texas the best, it's really hard for me to be enthusiastic about their future unless I become nostalgic about detectors and want to buy a new old model, although I haven't been doing it long enough for that to matter and I did do that when I bought a Gold Bug 2 a year or so ago, I even did a post about buying an Antique detector at the time. 🙂 Yes their detectors are still capable, but imagine if they were innovative and kept improving them, making real new models and developing the technology... Like TV's and phones have, and some other detector brands. I would love nothing more than for them to prove me wrong and come out with a killer multi frequency detector with all the latest bells and whistles and blitz the competition! Even if they stuck with single frequency they could have made a Gold Bug 3 and took the prospecting VLF users by storm by modernizing it, as in really making it modern with wireless audio (that'd be a first for them) and all the other features we expect in a modern detector. In my short time detecting I've seen two companies collapse because they were not innovative, I don't want to see a third fall and I'm not a First Texas hater, I own five of their machines, I wouldn't part with any of them. I feel better after that vent 🙂 Partly because I've been hoping a Gold Bug 3 was in the future, then after 27 years they released the Gold Bug 2.01 and destroyed all hope of that happening.

Yes, hopefully they can sort out something where adapters are made for people like has been the case with the GPZ coils for some time now. Since that started there has been no issues with people making their own adapter badly and the good number of coils sold since with no problems. There is no such thing as no risk when doing this sort of thing though but it's sure been mitigated by this approach and likely the only viable thing for the 6000 coils I think. It's best people are aware of possible detector damage and so on, I completely agree, it does show how desperate people are to use other coils though. They're not being sold for now so disclosure about risks involved is not yet necessary although I think it's somewhat obvious seeing you are opening a coil up to do it, this video is nothing more than demonstrating it can and has been done and I think it's pretty cool how quickly it was achieved to get where it's at already. The Coiltek thing is interesting, I've not seen that post either but I'm sure it would have spread like wildfire on the 6000 FB groups if it was posted, good on Coiltek if they are going to be doing it though, good news for owners that's for sure.

I remember Geotech saying the TRX was a complicated pin pointer to produce, which I guess would mean less profit margin and charging more for it would limit the sales. Difficult scenario they would have to juggle, and if there was massive demand for the TRX they might produce it, but were they selling very well, or did most who want one already have one and the trickle of people wanting a new one or a replacement may not be enough to justify making it. The 24k was very different, Garrett didn't have a competing product and gold detectors are big sellers, especially in other countries outside of the USA and Garrett has the worldwide reach to take advantage of those markets.

Unfortunately for me my attempt to get a skid plate for my 10x6" coil and the 6" concentric coil has failed miserably, A dealer in Brisbane Australia had one of each left over in stock and agreed to send to me in NZ, it was shipped and Australian customs decided that the Whites coil and 2 skid plates are dangerous goods and has rejected the parcel, I hope that doesn't mean they destroy it 😞 Looks like I won't be getting the 6" Concentric, or even a skid plate for my 10x6". It's getting scratched up already without one so I'm going to have to improvise and make something to protect it as in my rocky areas it won't last long without a cover. I don't know what they could possibly think is dangerous about a detector coil, do they think it's frisbee that you throw at people and pull it back with it's cord so you can throw it again and again..... It didn't even get a chance to leave Australia. Out of frustration I've also ordered a 24k 6" Concentric from Serious Detecting in the US, so if the Aussies can somehow solve the other problem I'll have two of them. That's not such a bad thing.

All I know now is my 7000 with 8" coil will win hands down in an area the 6000's 11" coil is too big to hit the soil due rocks or whatever, so having different size coils can turn a loser into a winner regardless. 🙂 Let's not forget the 7000 has concentric coils!

I doubt it would be such a drama this time around, most people know the positives and negatives now and it's sorted itself out over time. Those that want to use them will, and I'd suspect most of those initially would be the same people that use them on their GPZ's 🙂

That's right, the chip is removed from the original coil by surgery 🙂 And then an adapter is made in a similar way to the GPZ X-coil adapter, up near the control box the original coil cable is cut, and the chip is added inline as part of the plug that goes into the detector so the adapter becomes a universal adapter to run the X-coils. All early days so far but progress for those that want different coils and are willing to do the adjustments necessary.

Love it when there is multiple bits of gold in one hole. Nice post, thanks.

I guess it probably has bad blocks on the eeprom, so when it's being flashed the image is corrupted. Normally flash tools verify the flash though ensuring that it is fine with CRC checking and report if the flash fails. If it is a faulty eeprom I can only imagine they'd swap out the control pod for you, not worth fixing.

You could still use the original coil without the chip. Just some open heart surgery 😉

The chip goes into an adapter, maybe I worded it so it doesn't make sense 🙂

I was doing some reading on various forums about First Texas and there was posts around 2013 to 2017 or so saying Dave J was busy working on a new detector and they'll be releasing a new detector soon.... I don't know how long soon is... but that was quite a number of years ago. I can't remember the exact dates of these posts but it was many years ago. So I can't get enthused by rumours about them coming out with a new detector.

No, it's in Russia, and it's using the chip from a standard coil, the chip from the standard coil was removed to do this, and they would require an adapter to run. At some point I'll certainly be using one with these coils, I want small coils for my detecting, this 15x10" is one of my favourite coils though, I like elliptical shaped coils for detecting here with our rocky terrain.