dig4gold

Well I certainly haven't heard much on the 17" coil & what I have heard hasn't been very positive. If it had some merit I am sure we would have heard some glowing reports so the fact we haven't tells a story I reckon. Why couldn't they have made a 14" mono for the 6000? The 14" was a very popular size on the earlier GPX's. What's up with the NF coils being a no show.... still? D4G

So, another Dog coil from ML?? D4G

Pretty sure that if you get a replacement 11" coil from ML under warranty because your first one failed, the warranty on the replacement doesn't start from the date you got it but roles on from when you first purchased your detector. That kind of sucks. D4G

I wonder if the 17" on the 6000 is a bit like the 19" 'dog' coil was on the 7000. Hasn't lived up to expectation. I can imagine what a nightmare the 17" would be like on the 6000 with the shaft twisting. I think I would be scared of breaking the shaft. D4G

A gentle persuader. You obviously weren't using discrimination. How deep? D4G

I am probably the most patient person on the planet when it comes to detecting ground & digging targets. I don't pussyfoot around when digging a signal out. I go hard until it has moved. Then find it. Time out in the field is too important to waste. Despite what you may think of me, I do ok. I just don't advertise it. I don't think you would find much, if anything, if you followed behind me. Wishing you luck. D4G

Interesting. I too find the 11" a very good coil in our NZ mild ground conditions. Getting good depth on small gold. In fact I would say the best depth. But that kind of stands to reason being a bigger coil but obviously still holding great sensitivity, in our conditions. To those of you in noisier ground & not liking the 11" & have both the NF 12x7 & CT 10x5, do you find the 12x7 gets better depth on same size gold as the 10x5 or is the gold the 12x7 finds deeper but slightly bigger. In a normal world one would think that was the case due solely to the physics of the coil sizes verses gold size & depth. In that case the 10x5 should find smaller gold but not as deep. The difference could also be the 12x7 running quieter allowing very faint small gold to be heard if you consider the 12x7 to be smoother & quieter running. Shows how desperate we are getting to find gold of any size these days, even the smallest of smalls. So the competition now is what coil can/will find the deepest smallest gold. Bit sad really. D4G

That is grim. Why is that & what happens when you have nothing? D4G

Please correct me if I am wrong. So you are out there playing gold miner with your friend. Risking your life daily with hooligans who want your gold. While your wife is home alone with the kids for months on end. Doesn't seem right to me. D4G

Nice... D4G

Thanks for telling the weight of the nugget. As I didn't watch the whole video I was unaware of the size. Seems I wouldn't have known, even if I watched to the end. LOL. Nice find. All Detectors have their uses.... even the Nox 800. Might not be all the time for the detecting you do but it isn't too shabby a detector. The Walco pick would have been good just for scraping & lifting the material to the surface, without having to swing it. I am sure it would have saved you a bit of time. D4G

I know what you mean. I just saw in his list of gear used that he has a Walco Pick & a Nox 800. I wasn't sure about the 6" coil but that set up is ideal as a pinpointer in those exact scenarios. Personally I don't use a pinpointer but opt for either the Gold Monster or Nox with 6" coil. Reason being, very often there is other smaller gold present in a dig like that that both those vlf's would hit on that a pinpointer wouldn't. I kind of thought that the elliptical mono with its sensitive nose would act as a reasonable pinpointer to get a better location of the target. No disrespect but I gave up watching the vid after the geo hammer got stuck into the side wall. Which made me think he had dug down past the target. In my mind the geo hammer is not the right tool for that recovery as you cant scrape out any material with that so I could see it dragging on. I had better things to do than watching paint dry. D4G

Where was your Walco pick for digging that sucker out, & your nox 800 with 6" coil for pinpointing it? D4G

I think you are being a bit hard on Jim & Vern. They made the decision that they didn't want to risk being killed any more & moved on with their lives. They had already dodged potential death many times in the cause of protecting what you had. The gold isn't every thing. D4G

Lose lips sink ships. I know your frustration so best to keep quiet about your patch finds until maybe you think you have cleaned it out. Is a patch ever truly worked out? Not in my mind. D4G

Nice finds. Good chance the broken chain is the reason it got lost. You most likely didn't cut it through. D4G

Have you contacted the manufacturers? Any issues should be covered by warranty. D4G

Truth or fiction?? I at times forget that this isn't always truth. D4G

Nice find Gerry. D4G

Jacob has nothing to lose. No family. You on the other hand do. So where is your true loyalty? To Jacob & the gold, or your family? You are no good to your loved ones dead. You have a good amount of gold already. Jim & Vern decided the gold was no longer worth it & Jacob showed no respect to their decisions. Jacob didn't even have the decency to thank them for what they had done & wish them well. He is just selfish & I think he wants to go out the same way as his brother & old crew. Die fighting for the gold. As I said, he has nothing to lose, but you do. No gold is worth your life. Decision time for you now. You are not in a good position. D4G

Maybe they are the sensible ones. D4G

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I am a dig it all guy. That way there is absolutely no doubt you may have passed up & missed a piece of gold. I do use a magnet & I have very often found gold in the same dig after retrieving an iron target that was most likely the initial signal. More so than I can remember. Each to their own & what you are comfortable with. No right or wrong in this. D4G

You couldn't take that gold with you & you did the right thing. After all, they gave you many joyful moments in finding it. Like you said, they kind of had to accept it. Thank you for your contributions to this forum. RIP One Guy. D4G

Absolutely no doubt that Minelab make the best gold detectors IMHO. But there business model has gone to mining the miners. I guess it has always been going that way but none more so than after the GP, GPX series through to the 5000. With the amount of user adjustable control of settings & the huge coil selection offering plug & play to make those detectors the most versatile to suit most detecting situations that we will most likely never see the likes of again. The 6000 went a bit wayward with its flimsy construction to achieve lightness & its EMI & coil issues that should never have happened to the final released production item but once eventually sorted, electronically proving a wizard on small gold. But again it has taken the after market coils to fill gaps. I guess we should be thankful that Minelab has allowed that. I kind of think there hand was twisted though. D4G